8 Is Great

[GLC]

Hey George,

Can you look at the 110 spins I ran in reply #32 and let me know how you would've played it.  I just don't have time to test your prog, but I like this idea ...

Thanks, Gator

Wally,  I'm not trying to avoid your request, just a little preoccupied at the moment.  That sequence looks pretty bad.  Maybe no progression can win with it, just try to keep losses as low as possible.

G

[GLC]

Dear GLC
if I want to use your progression then what bet selection you suggest? BIGEZ initial bet selection could exceed 15 steps. could I apply GR8players progression here?

dear Tomla021
is your progression sliding backward such as GLC MENTIONED ABOVE? and what's your bet selection method.

thanks
catalyst

Cat,  I don't have a bet selection.  I would just use the one BigEZ suggests.

I don't think GR8Player's progression will work with a system like this unless you just want to make a linear progression out of it such as: 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-4-4-4-5-5-5-5-5-5-5 and slide up and down it until you are at a high point then start over.
With GR8Player's progression you would have to make 7 bets at 1 unit per number and if you are ahead, repeat.  If you are behind, you would go to 2 units per number and make 7 more bets.  If you are ahead, drop back to 1 unit per number.  If you are still down, go to 3 units per number for 7 bets etc..........

[Tomla021]

i just slide down from say a 3 unit bet to 2 when not in the plus --no science i just look at my chip stack----the nice thing and i have no reason why --you seem to get a cluster of close wins to put you ahead at some point

[GLC]

I just slide down from say a 3 unit bet to 2 when not in the plus --no science I just look at my chip stack----the nice thing and I have no reason why --you seem to get a cluster of close wins to put you ahead at some point

Tom,  I think the way you're playing it is about as good as we can expect without having to take a lot more risk.

[Tomla021]

George I'm actually thinking of playing it slower as in 1111, 1111, 2222,2222,3333,3333 etc as from feel I think most times you will get ahead nicely,losses won't be huge.....I have some outside plays that I have to wait for and this seems to be a great way to whittle away time and usually win while waiting for my bigger bet triggers

[Big EZ]

Here's 110 spins .... check me ... not looking good.

36   
24   L
13   x
2   
8   L
29   L
19   L
32   L
35   
33   x
33   
5   L
22   x
23   
32   L
13   L
35   x
25   
6   L
8   L
7   L
10   x
17   
6   L
11   L
36   L
5   x
36   
26   L
6   L
9   L
32   L
10   
36   L
30   L
18   L
14   L
13   
17   L
12   L
25   L
21   L
17   
23   
15   L
23   x
35   
2   L
10   L
5   L
11   L
25   
1   
20   L
22   L
18   L
3   L
33   
35   X
19   
5   L
19   X
32   
27   
21   L
28   X
36   
20   L
21   L
25   L
14   X
36   
9   
37   L
12   L
5   L
26   X
20   
26   L
31   L
5   L
1   L
19   
6   L
17   L
4   L
37   L
17   
36   
18   L
31   L
31   L
9   L
16   
13   
29   
30   X
4   
2   L
20   L
25   L
15   L
38   
19   
37   L
2   L
6   L
29   X

Wally....

I took your spins that you submitted and ran them through a tweak I have done in this method and the end total is +204 units for the entire 100 spins with a max bet of 3units per number.

[Big EZ]

I have also been replaying the sessions that I have posted in this session with the tweak and here are the results...

1: +128 2u/#
2: +108 2u/#
3: +96   1u/#
4: +98   1u/#
5: Skipped to short for the tweak version
6: +88  2u/#

So not as much profit as before, but we also get a safer progression. And it also beat Wally's spins, and before it tanked on those spins.

If anyone can PM the 00 Zuma Tester book I can do further tests. I no longer have my spin files because of a recent computer virus 

[Tomla021]

could i get the tweak? i play this in casinos weekly

[Wally Gator]

BigEZ,

That's great.  Can you share the tweak?

Thanks, Wally

[Big EZ]

I am still testing the tweak, and firming up some of the rules for it. I would still like to test some more before I share the tweak to see if it holds up.

But if anyone has 00 spins to donate to me for testing it would would appreciated. I will run through some more tests and post the results for everyone.

[seykid31]

link:://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/double-zero-actuals/

[Big EZ]

Thanks Seykid...


I am going to start going through these tonight

[clothdog]

Here is my session from friday LIVE WHEEL OO:
Don't like the looks of it.  :-\
1.    .    .    first number spun
5.   .   .   L
22   L
29  L
15  L
31
31
5  *
34 L
24  W
13  *
23  L
4  L
31 L
22  L
19  *
7 W
18
5  *
23  W
30  *  
10  L
32  L
10  L
7  W
00  
8  *
15  L
27 L
4   L
6   L
16  *
0   L
27  L
33  W
11  *
27  L
7  W
17  
00  
10  *
9    W
32
11  *
26  L
5    L
9    L
19  W
25   *
30   L
29   L
14   L
5     L
29  *
20  W
31
36  *
35  W
20  *
27  L
26  L
30  W
1  *
22 L
14 L
23 L
13 L
6 *
12 L
17.     L.    .    last number spun
CD

[Big EZ]

Clothdog...

Thanks for posting some spins for me to look at...

From the spins you posted the highest bet would be 2units per number and your 70spin sample would have generated a profit of 56 units...

I am still doing testing so any more live numbers are welcome...   

[Wally Gator]

Here are 100 recent spins on a 00 wheel.  0 is 0 and 37 is 00.  Hope it helps.


24
31
14
15
34
30
9
17
23
9
31
3
35
21
1
35
5
18
14
22
11
14
31
0
0
26
36
13
13
6
26
27
11
21
24
23
7
22
28
31
31
15
14
32
32
15
2
33
16
18
34
33
33
2
19
8
10
36
28
19
24
9
17
6
9
32
7
27
20
15
36
31
15
32
33
37