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Started by Johnlegend, Mar 29, 04:47 PM 2011

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ZigZag

Hi Post

I played without trigger with 4 step but i think wait for trigger is best and do a 3 step

Post

Yes I think you are right that's the grail only needs patience win 4 units a day is good enough  ;)

and if you look at the table limits and calculate it good you can see you earn more an hour WITH A TRIGGER since you can double the stakes a lot I would choose to start of with 78units making 3 a win and after 26 wins 6 and 12 24 48 and till the table limits

jon86

Quote from: ZigZag on Mar 30, 06:56 PM 2011
Hi Post

I played without trigger with 4 step but I think wait for trigger is best and do a 3 step

I have play with trigger and bet on 4 not to be a 5 on a 3 wide matrix and its great. +9 tonight  :)

jon86

Quote from: Post on Mar 30, 06:58 PM 2011
Yes I think you are right that's the grail only needs patience win 4 units a day is good enough  ;)
:thumbsup:

Johnlegend

Quote from: jon86 on Mar 30, 06:59 PM 2011
I have play with trigger and bet on 4 not to be a 5 on a 3 wide matrix and its great. +9 tonight  :)
Jons put it down. This thing is simply unbeatable live. JUST BET AGAINST EVERY QUAD NOT BECOMING A FIVE POINTER. Or have several jugs of black coffee redbull on STANDBY.... :o

jon86

Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 30, 07:04 PM 2011
Jons put it down. This thing is simply unbeatable live. JUST BET AGAINST EVERY QUAD NOT BECOMING A FIVE POINTER. Or have several jugs of black coffee redbull on STANDBY.... :o
:thumbsup:


ZigZag

You will get plenty of quad triggers on a 3 wide Matrix30  :thumbsup:

Post

So we just bet every quad not becoming a 5 pointer in a 3 wide matrix LIVE?????

ZigZag

Quote from: Post on Mar 30, 07:12 PM 2011
So we just bet every quad not becoming a 5 pointer in a 3 wide matrix LIVE?????

Yes Post. (Live Wheel)  :thumbsup:

iamvaljean

Quote from: Johnlegend link=topic=4563. msg44813#msg44813 date=1301525753
Please feed 20000 through a THREE WIDE MATRIX and report back.  that's what I want to know.  I HAVE 12,000 RNG spins recorded.  FOUR FIVE POINTERS is the worst result. 

We speed our profits by raising stakes.  Also try to understand that finding a FIVE X FIVE doesn't mean we will MEET ONE in play.  As no ones going to sit through 10,000 spins with short sessions and a loss that rare you could win 1000, 1 easily.


Quote from: Johnlegend link=topic=4563. msg44813#msg44813 date=1301525753
Please feed 20000 through a THREE WIDE MATRIX and report back.  that's what I want to know.  I HAVE 12,000 RNG spins recorded.  FOUR FIVE POINTERS is the worst result. 

We speed our profits by raising stakes.  Also try to understand that finding a FIVE X FIVE doesn't mean we will MEET ONE in play.  As no ones going to sit through 10,000 spins with short sessions and a loss that rare you could win 1000, 1 easily.


Just fed 16000+ spins (live wheel).  File is attached. 

See screenshots for the results (stakes are not raised after a win).  I found 2 lossing progressions.  There was no loss until almost 8000 spins. 

I agree with you, testing such long series is not realistic as nobody will sit and play for so long. 

The problem is that breaking your play and playing shorter session is no guarantee.  You can be lucky and skip that 1/10000 lost progression for a very long time or just hit it the second time you sit at the table, you never know. . .

One doubt I have is. . .  Do you clear the matrix only after a win or after?

Post

zig zag how long would it take to wait for a trigger ?

jon86

Quote from: Post on Mar 30, 07:27 PM 2011
Zig zag how long would it take to wait for a trigger ?

Not long on a 3 wide not for me today 9+. if not wait for trigger and just bet on all 4 just use 4 stepp instead of the 3. I love wait for trigger with redbull and black coffee  :D

But on 5 wide wait all night for trigger :)

Post

well jon if you only use a 3 step you can double after 26 wins if 4 step you need 80 wins so thats why i would like to wait or a 5 pointer the question is how long does it take to find a 5 pointer in the 3 wide matrix

ZigZag

Quote from: Post on Mar 30, 07:27 PM 2011
Zig zag how long would it take to wait for a trigger ?

Hi Post. Hmm difficult one that as i have limited data. All i can say is that when i was playing the original Matrix30 i did notice that there would be at least one 5 pointer during most of my sessions, which averaged about 100 spins each session

Post

well if there is one every say 200 spins i am already verry happy  ;)

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