*MATRIX VERTICAL 5* (Randoms BLACKHOLE)

[Johnlegend]

Yes I am 

Those ladies from Latvia make my day LoL (the mrs hates it ahahaha)

Hmmmmm I don't usually have any problems there, prob just hit a "dull patch"

Yes theres some serious eye candy on these live sites luckily I dont have a Mrs to nag me about it lol. Yes you can get patches where nothings doing with true random. YOULL NEVER SEE THAT ON AN RNG...

[Twisteruk]

I have been looking at this strategy with great interest and may I say thank you to John for sharing it with all of us. 

As we all know a double street bet or a line bet is equivalent to a dozen/column bet.  I am wondering if this strategy can be applied to betting 4 line bets on the inside.  This way we can track more "dozen" s and possibly there will be more betting opportunities. 

The recording of the results will look like this :

136
632
245
543 . . . . . .

Hope that helps 

Sounds interestin  


Do you have any stats which suggest this is a better style of play ?

[Twisteruk]

Yes you can get patches where nothings doing with true random. YOULL NEVER SEE THAT ON AN RNG...

Yes thats a 100% True and PROVES RNG is NOT Random 

[Johnlegend]

Sounds interestin  


Do you have any stats which suggest this is a better style of play ?

Francis hi, BOATRAN8 has already addressed playing LINES IN THE MATRIX. Check his thread out. THE ONLY DRAWBACK WITH LINES, the buy in is 240 units. And three wide you might be drawing a pension before you get a trigger and game completed. It takes long enough for dozens.

[vundarosa]

I was  just spinning it again today (William Hill CASINO CLUB ) in playing mode and here are the spins (6878 spins). It was French roulette rng. I tested again (this and previous 5518 spins from yesterday) with Matrix.exe with settings:

5x wide matrix and 3x wide matrix, dozens and columns
4 step progression
against 5 pointers (quints)
with trigger
resetting after each win

All progressions won!

Just a curiosity: I have an old spins from november last year when I was testing F_lat_ino's system  on BV no zero rng table, fun play (about 430 spins). I couldnt beleave it but those spins DID lose with same settings of Matrix.exe as I show above on 5x wide matrix for dozens and as I said in only 430 spins. So as you said: be careful with BV no zero!

By the way, what rng are you playing?


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yep, no zero = no good for this system.

i play playtech rngs as i see them as very user friendly. In the past they have reaped me appart with almost ANY system i'd throw on the table but this one is holding quite solid, and i not even close to danger with the progression. F_lat_ino's system does quite well indeed even in these rngs, but after 4-5 wins one needs to get out (10-50 units). These programs are pure predators, so if playing real money, not good to stay for long.

vundarosa

[warrior]

hi john can i play 5 wide no trigger on treble not becoming 4 and 5 thanks.

[strato1985]

warrior i been playing it that way to speed it up a bit .

That just shows how infrequent the wheel can produce such results ruining the wheel

5 across play after quad forms

[warrior]

sound good thanks.

[vundarosa]

I have been looking at this strategy with great interest and may I say thank you to John for sharing it with all of us. 

As we all know a double street bet or a line bet is equivalent to a dozen/column bet.  I am wondering if this strategy can be applied to betting 4 line bets on the inside.  This way we can track more "dozen" s and possibly there will be more betting opportunities. 

The recording of the results will look like this :

136
632
245
543 . . . . . .

Hope that helps 

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i think there's already something in "full systems" to that effect.......

vundarosa

[strato1985]

may bad warrior i play trips as well not to form quads. hardly ever even see that!. twisty does trips on 5 across

[vundarosa]

Hi john can I play 5 wide no trigger on treble not becoming 4 and 5 thanks.

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warrior, i played like that for sometime but gave up. Reason being, if you lose on treble (3) and it became a quad (4) and lose on a quad which became a 5 pointer, to recover the 5 pointer loss you now must wait for another treble to lose (becoming a quad). If you bet the quad will not become a 5 pointer and you lose again, (you now go 2nd step on trebles not becoming quads) and then finally bet your five pointer (and hopefully win it). Otherwise you have to go through the motions agains and be betting 3rd step on trip not becoming a quad and hopping to lose so you can now bet (and win) against the quad not becoming a 5 pointer.  It takes a higher BR and i found it a bit frustrating....

If however you decide to skip betting trebles will not become quads waiting for one to lose so you finally bet against the 5 pointer, you'll soon be kicking yourself for the many trebles which did not become quads!

So, it actually makes the playing longer, but yes, once you get all the wins the profits are higher for the same number of spins

vundarosa

[Francis]

Francis hi, BOATRAN8 has already addressed playing LINES IN THE MATRIX.  Check his thread out.  THE ONLY DRAWBACK WITH LINES, the buy in is 240 units.  And three wide you might be drawing a pension before you get a trigger and game completed.  It takes long enough for dozens. 

Thanks for the reference.  I think BOATRAN8 was betting against a single line not appearing in the vertical matrix while I am suggesting betting two lines to not appearing.  Betting 4 line bets should not be very much different from betting two dozens in the original method. 

How I will play is to bet against a vertical Quad becoming A FIVE POINTER with a 1-4-13-40 progression on each of the four lines.  I will track 3X, 5X and 7X matrices all at the same time.  That will give me more betting opportunities,

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Just did 100 live spins and had three 5 pointers in a row but won on the fourth step I used  

[The_Force]

Results seem to be good, but I'm struggling to understand why this should work.

I can see why this works in the short term, but when you eventually get the 5 quads in a row, isn't it going to wipe out everything that you've won?

[Twisteruk]

Its been a good day today 


Apart from 150-200 spins with NO Quad 


Playin Dozens and Columns in a 3x