*MATRIX VERTICAL 5* (Randoms BLACKHOLE)

[atlantis]

I had another look at the MV5 program. It is very nice ute but remember author IAMVALJEAN says it is still unfinished...
Also not sure if it is playing it right. For instance in the settings there are different options about when you reset the matrix 4...

I personally do not use the program yet until I can see and verify it is working correctly. The outputted info is not sufficient to convince me at this stage enough to rely on it - so instead I prefer and am happy to use old fashioned pen and paper and track by hand and I do not reset the matrix at any point.
I play same as JohnL continuously to win a few units and then quit.

A.

[Johnlegend]

I'm in the IT industry, and trust me if I tell you, I would love to use my pc and apps to do a bit of number crunching and tracking my numbers because I can hardly understand my own handwriting as I haven't been using pen and paper for the last 12 years or so  , I am very skeptical too...

There's an add on the tele....and they convince you that this new product is so awesome. You don't believe it, but the next day you buy it and find out for yourself....and that is the ONLY way you'll get to know the product. You might love it, or you might hate it...

At the end of the day, it all depends on you! Even as I'm writing this, As I said, I'm still skeptical about this, but I've tried it myself....not as many spins...or as many units, but still success.

So - may "The Force" be with you...    Take a plunge, put some money on the table...and see how it goes!

Firstly no ones selling anything here. You can paper test this method for a year if you like. My problem with forces assumptions are they're text book classic, I had a system that worked for a year then all of a sudden stopped. Please pm me the method Force ill tell you if it was any good to start with.

Why will MV5 become a classic ROULETTE KILLER? It works, Force still hasnt given us any numbers 43,000 spins?

What else? Gaps between losses? QUADS in that sample. Zero voids? FOUR WIDE MATRIX?
There are too many anwsers missing meanwhile Ive already reached a point in the real world of random where going into negative figures is less likely that Elvis performing on the moon tonight.

[atlantis]

I've already reached a point in the real world of random where going into negative figures is less likely that Elvis performing on the moon tonight.

link:://:.ghost-pictures.org/elvis-ghost-photos-moon-1.htm

What the astronauts failed to see was that the ghost of Elvis was there to greet them and indeed to serenade them with a medley of his best loved songs.




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[londonboy85]

Thanks you guys for your help I'm putting a small example about what I currently understand so please correct me if I'm wrong.  I'm playing the 4 wide matrix

1 1 3 2
2 1 3 1
3 1 1 2
2 1 2 3. . . . . . . . This is my trigger, right  I'm betting that the 2nd vertical line doesn't become
                   a 5 pointer. 
                   
                   So I need to bet on dozen 2 & 3 right  .  Also when you talks of pts do you mean
                   units.

[moles40]

The proof is in the pudding furple results speak for themselves. And a negative thinker like you would be better off on VLS one big happy family of negative thinkers. That forum is pointless. Here we get things done,  

If you think VLS forum is bad,don't ever  head over to Punters lounge or UK betting tips forum.

They are full of the most negative posters I have seen in gambling forums ever.All they do is post negative post after post after post.

I posted the kennedy system over at uk betting tips,the amount of grief I got was unbelivable.You wonder why these people gamble in the first place.Now it appears they are starting to appear in here now

[iamvaljean]

Well, it has been quite a while since my last post... Let me update my results testing this baby  

Though I am not as enthusiastic as johnlegend and other posters here, I must say that this is one of the most promising systems I have tried. There are losses, of course. But, depending on the size of your progression and the way you play, I must say these are rare indeed. As rare as 1 progression lost in every 55000 spins on average!!! As you do not bet each of those 55000 spins P/L ratio is not even close to 55000/1. That would really be a grail  

Most  simulations of up to 350000 spins (that is really a lot of spins!!!) I have run are still giving profitable results. Bear in mind that you are supposed to loose 2.7% of any bet placed so getting still only 1 unit profit after a very long series of result would really be a success.

Be careful when running simulations of such looooong series. As johnlegend says, the point where you enter the game is really a must in this system so if you have a single file with, for example, 100.000 spins  you have a single entry point. Think about this....

I am still developing the software. I have newer versions of the program that allow the matrix not to be reset until X wins or after X consecutive spins (i.e. to simulate a session of 200 continuous spins and then stop) or not to be reset at all.

One of the major improvements is that at this moment the program can capture live spins from a couple of well known casinos to simulate real live sessions...

The new versions are not yet published, though. It is going to take a while yet.

One last thought. I do not think The Force or anyone who questions this system or my program (which can be flawed, of course) is a 'naysayer' or a negative thinker. He is just a thinker  It is a good thing to think for oneself and question other people's results or  ideas. IMHO that is the best way to make the most progress...

[ZigZag]

Thanks you guys for your help I'm putting a small example about what I currently understand so please correct me if I'm wrong.  I'm playing the 4 wide matrix

1 1 3 2
2 1 3 1
3 1 1 2
2 1 2 3. . . . . . . . This is my trigger, right  I'm betting that the 2nd vertical line doesn't become
                   a 5 pointer. 
                   
                   So I need to bet on dozen 2 & 3 right  .  Also when you talks of pts do you mean
                   units.

Yes

So from your matrix

1 1 3 2
2 1 3 1
3 1 1 2
2 1 2 3     <<<<< trigger is the 1 dozen as it has formed 4 in a row
3               <<<< Now is time to bet that the 1 dozen dosent form a 5 in row so you bet 2&3
                           Dozen

                                             NOW IF YOU LOSE

1 1 3 2
2 1 3 1
3 1 1 2
2 1 2 3
3 1 2 3          <<<<< here you lost. So continue to write down the matrix until you see 
2 1 3 1                      ANOTHER NEW QUAD
2 1 2 2
3 3 2 2
2 3 1 2
1 2 1 2         <<<<< here is another new quad (2 Doz)
2 3 2            <<<<<Here your making your next bet on your second step of your               
                                Progression 3-3

                             If you lose then wait for another quad and use your 3rd and final 
                             progression

Make 2 matrix. One for doz and another for cols. using 2 seperate banks. This gives you more betting oppertunites

I like to place a chip on zero on the last 2 steps of the progression, but thats just me 

[londonboy85]

Thanks zigzag for your explanation I'm getting it now  :) Will do a few practice sessions before playing for real.

[vundarosa]

Well, it has been quite a while since my last post... Let me update my results testing this baby  

Though I am not as enthusiastic as johnlegend and other posters here, I must say that this is one of the most promising systems I have tried. There are losses, of course. But, depending on the size of your progression and the way you play, I must say these are rare indeed. As rare as 1 progression lost in every 55000 spins on average!!! As you do not bet each of those 55000 spins P/L ratio is not even close to 55000/1. That would really be a grail  

Most  simulations of up to 350000 spins (that is really a lot of spins!!!) I have run are still giving profitable results. Bear in mind that you are supposed to lose 2.7% of any bet placed so getting still only 1 unit profit after a very long series of result would really be a success.

Be careful when running simulations of such looooong series. As johnlegend says, the point where you enter the game is really a must in this system so if you have a single file with, for example, 100.000 spins  you have a single entry point. Think about this....

I am still developing the software. I have newer versions of the program that allow the matrix not to be reset until X wins or after X consecutive spins (i.e. to simulate a session of 200 continuous spins and then stop) or not to be reset at all.

One of the major improvements is that at this moment the program can capture live spins from a couple of well known casinos to simulate real live sessions...

The new versions are not yet published, though. It is going to take a while yet.

One last thought. I do not think The Force or anyone who questions this system or my program (which can be flawed, of course) is a 'naysayer' or a negative thinker. He is just a thinker  It is a good thing to think for oneself and question other people's results or  ideas. in my humble opinion that is the best way to make the most progress...

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How many steps do you have in your progression for those 55000/1?
Also, this results are for a 4 wide matrix betting against quads becoming 5 pointers?

vundarosa

[moles40]

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How many steps do you have in your progression for those 55000/1?
Also, this results are for a 4 wide matrix betting against quads becoming 5 pointers?

vundarosa

I thought it was a 5 wide matrix to begin with then a 3 and now a 4?.

So which is the best one.So many matrixes.

[Twisteruk]

I thought it was a 5 wide matrix to begin with then a 3 and now a 4?.

So which is the best one.So many matrixes.

4x is the choice 

[kiamessi]

im a new member here and this is my first post, so i dont know if anyone asked this question or not:
Should we use this system with only one dealer? coz imo dealers can somehow affect the outcomes of the spins.

[Johnlegend]

4x is the choice 

Yup, Five POINTERS on a 4 WIDE GRID. Thats the ultimate conclusion for me people. Its working very well.

[Proofreaders2000]

I'm a new member here and this is my first post, so I don't know if anyone asked this question or not:
Should we use this system with only one dealer? because in my opinion dealers can somehow affect the outcomes of the spins.

Excellent question.  From my experience, the training dealers are used in the morning. (I am CDT USA, so it's morning for me).  At night however there is usually a large crowd at the tables.  Casinos bring in their most experienced dealers (avoid) because they can spin the ball to where there isn't a chip on a number very often.  Just ask F_LAT_INO (a veteran casino dealer) here at RF.cc

[jon86]

Excellent question.  From my experience, the training dealers are used in the morning. (I am CDT USA, so it's morning for me).  At night however there is usually a large crowd at the tables.  Casinos bring in their most experienced dealers (avoid) because they can spin the ball to where there isn't a chip on a number very often.  Just ask F_LAT_INO (a veteran casino dealer) here at RF.cc

Is F_LAT_INO a dealer before for real.