Skipping Dozens

[GLC]

I must always give credit where it is due and once again my friend MrJ inspired this system.

This is a dozens and/or columns system.

We are always going to bet the dozen that hit less recent, that is furthest back dozen to hit.

We are going to bet 1 unit on the furthest back dozen or column.  Then we skip the next spin.  This skipping a spin is what I like from MrJ's systems.  If our dozen hits on the spin that we skipped, we will bet the next spin on the new oldest dozen to hit.  Also, if a dozen hits that we are betting on, we don't skip the next spin, rather pick the oldest dozen and bet on it immediately using that dozens progression. 

We just continue to bet every other spin on the oldest dozen unless we win or the dozen we're betting on hits on a spin we're skipping.  Then we will bet the next spin on the new oldest dozen. 

Let me say that a different way.  When the dozen we're betting on hits, we pick the new oldest dozen and bet on it the next spin.  Usually it will be the dozen you start betting on, but often your dozen will hit on the spin you skip in which case you will switch over to the new oldest dozen.  That's it for the bet selection.

Progression:

We are going to use 3 progressions.  A progression for each dozen.

The one I like to use is to bet 1 unit until you are down 5 units.  This doesn't mean that you have to lose 5 times in a row.  Once you are down 5 units, start betting 2 units until you recover all the 1 unit losses.  Every time you lose at a 2 unit bet, you write 2 units on the right end of your recovery line.  Once you have recovered all the 1 unit losses, you will begin betting 3 units per bet until you recover all your 2 unit losses.  Once you have recovered all the 2 unit losses, you will begin betting 4 units per bet until you recover all your 3 unit losses. Etc... 

Each dozen has it's own bet line that is tracked  this way.

Anytime you reach a new high point in your overall bankroll, restart all 3 progressions at 1 unit.  This is a very safe bet method for this system and you shouldn't find yourself betting large size bets very often.

You will run into a very bad losing stretch every now and then and  you have to have a stop loss or enough money to be able to keep playing until the tide turns to your favor.

If you want, you can use the classic 1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21-31-47-70 bet line which is a martingale for 2:1 bets.  This will win most of the time, but every now and then you will have to settle up with the grim reaper.

I think 100 unit stop loss on each progression should guarantee a win most of the time.  Set a win target of about 5 units. 

You don't have to only play 1 session per day.  After winning 5 units, just take a 10-15 minute break and start again.

George

[marivo]

Thank you for the system and excellent description!

[eluka]

I like. Thanks for posting 

[marivo]

Progression:

We are going to use 3 progressions.  A progression for each dozen.

The one I like to use is to bet 1 unit until you are down 5 units.  This doesn't mean that you have to lose 5 times in a row.  Once you are down 5 units, start betting 2 units until you recover all the 1 unit losses. 

Just please for some more explanation:

For example: if my result on 1. doz. after betting 1 unit is: L,W,L,W,L,W,L,W,L - should my next bet be 2 units (because there are 5 losses in the past) or should i calculate W's and L's and only if calculation is -5 I would rise my next bet to 2 units. I think I should apply the latest but am not sure.

[GLC]

Just please for some more explanation:

For example: if my result on 1. doz. after betting 1 unit is: L,W,L,W,L,W,L,W,L - should my next bet be 2 units (because there are 5 losses in the past) or should I calculate W's and L's and only if calculation is -5 I would rise my next bet to 2 units. I think I should apply the latest but am not sure.

Your thinking is correct.  Do not go to betting 2 units until you have 5 1 unit bets that have lost and have not been recovered by a win at 1 unit.  This will keep our bets low and we will only have to go to higher bets when we have series of unbalanced losses.  I was hoping to keep most of the bets close to a flat bet.  I know they will get higher every now and then, but that's going to happen with any bet besides a flat bet.

After the 1 unit level, the number of 2's, 3's, etc... will be determined by how many losses occur while you're trying to recover the previous level.

I'm not claiming that this has some unique strike rate or it beats random or anything like that, I have just found that it's a very good way to win a handful of units without a great risk to your bankroll.

Keeping each dozen's bet line separate also helps keep the over all bets low.

This method can be adapted to lines, streets, splits and single numbers and it's very effective.  As you go to the other bet locations, you may want to increase the number of skips between bets.  MrJ suggested 4 skips when playing 2 straight up numbers.

I will say that Iwonder plays this way on 2 straight up numbers with 4 skipped bets between with a martingale type bet progression and states that this beats roulette.

Lanky has support Iwonder's statement, which gives the statement a lot of credibility in my book.

If you like this way of playing, thank MrJ.  It's ultimately his brainchild.

LOL,

George

[marivo]

Thanks....

[GLC]

If you want a more aggressive bet method, you can try the bet line 111222333444555666 etc...  Move 1 step to the right on a loss and 2 steps to the left on a win for each progression.

[Hermes]

Sorry GLC to mess your thread with cards game.
Guys, because we don't have a card section I put the new Baccarat system from Donny Millionaire in General Discussion. Go there a look at it.
Thanks Hermes

[crownroyal]

Thanks for posting this system,George. Looks very interesting. I'm anxious to try it out.

[GLC]

Thanks for posting this system,George. Looks very interesting. I'm anxious to try it out.

[GLC]

I have been having phenomenal luck playing this method.

+80  units and my 100 unit buy-in hasn't been threatened at all.

1 thing I think can help a little is if you have one of the dozen's bet line that is getting a little long, you can recover losses on that bet line with wins from another bet line.

Let's say the bet line for the 2nd dozen looks like this 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3  that means that we have 26 units to recover.  If the other 2 bet lines are back down to betting only 1 unit, you could take 4 of the 2 unit losses from the 2nd dozen bet line and give 2 to the 1st dozen and 2 to the 3rd dozen bet lines.  This would relieve some pressure on the 2nd dozen bet line.  You could increase your bets on the 1st and 3rd bet lines to 2 units to recover 4 units on a win or just stay at 1 unit bets which will recover 1 of the 2 unit losses with each win. 

There's always a balancing act between keeping the bets very low and taking more spins to recover and letting the bets escalate quicker but recovering losses more quickly.

To each his own.  Test until you find what suits you best.

G

[Tomla021]

this one also seems interesting george, youve been busy---much success to you

[GLC]

Decided to test this playing both dozens and columns at the same time.

Reset everything at +10.

Won +52

Highest bet was 2.

what I noticed playing both doz & col is that you have 4 possibilities. WW or WL or LW or LL.

WW jumps you up a lot.
WL usually keeps you either even or + a little
LW usually keeps you either even or + a little
LL  this is the one that hurts

It can get a little hectic keeping track of both dozens and columns, but so far it's well worth the effort.

George