Is there always a better way?

[Proofreaders2000]

"Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path you your door"...as the adage goes.

So if someone come up with a something revolutionary, should we be satisfied?  (Just think we could all still be driving Model T's).

As for systems, if we have a 24 number system that works well, can we strive for an 18 number system or s 12 number system that works as well?

Just what does the Grail look like?

[Twisteruk]

Its like the "4 minute mile"


The mile hasnt got shorter, we just learned to run faster 

[F_LAT_INO]

Just what does the Grail look like?
[/quote]To me a grail is this;

0,1,2,3=2 units.........w= 6
4-9      =3 units.........w= 6
10-12  =1 units..........returns stake
19-24  =3 units.........w= 6
25-30  =3 units.........w= 6

After 3 consect. 13-18.....31-36
start betting above with progression;

2,3,1,3,3,
6,9,3,9,9
10,15,5,15,15
14,21,7,21,21...and so on untill in +rising 2 on a los,reducing 1 on a win.

[GLC]

Just what does the Grail look like?
To me a grail is this;

0,1,2,3=2 units.........w= 6
4-9      =3 units.........w= 6
10-12  =1 units..........returns stake
19-24  =3 units.........w= 6
25-30  =3 units.........w= 6

After 3 consect. 13-18.....31-36
start betting above with progression;

2,3,1,3,3,
6,9,3,9,9
10,15,5,15,15
14,21,7,21,21...and so on until in +rising 2 on a los,reducing 1 on a win.

Flatino,  Do you ever re-track for 3 more consecutive hits on the 2 lines you're not betting?

Is there some way to play by looking for a trigger of 3 consecutive hits in any 2 lines and then bet the other 4 lines at 3 units on 3 of them and 1 unit on 1 of them plus 2 units on the 0-1-2-3 bet?

I think you gave this to us before and we didn't appreciate it then, but now I'm really liking it.

Cheers,

George

[F_LAT_INO]

George mate,

10 step progression for this bet is
BR of 1190 units,and pressuming you wait just for 1 or 2
virtual loses on 13-18,31-36,instead of 3/to have a more
winning bets/you will have to wait looooooong time to see
12 consecut. 13-18,31-36.
You know the secret the most I have seen is 10,and if you find any longer let me know.
Yes my friend this is a grail .Test some and you will see.

BTW--always these 3 lines,cause there are all BE&RO there.

[F_LAT_INO]

Here George,
I knew had somwhere the session with 10 loses.
Attached,and btw.one can play this without a trigger,every spin
with 13 step progression,need BR 2118,but would have 3 times more wins.

[GLC]

Flatino, 

2118 is a little too much for my blood.

If I had to make that last bet, I'd have to take an aspirin for my heart.

Even 1190's a strong bankroll, but if you could get ahead with a good long winning streak, it would make it easier to make the 10th bet.

I'll test this one and put it on hold for now.  I need to develop some true grit before I'm ready to tackle this.  It's like trying to drive a Ferrari at full speed.  You better have nerves of steel.

George

[chrisbis]

"Build a better..........

Just what does the Grail look like?

Answer= 17 numbers.

[GLC]

Answer= 17 numbers.

Okay,  I give up.

What do you mean, "17 numbers"?

G

[F_LAT_INO]

It seems nobody understand me.
Closely look at the attachhment,all numbers,not only where a win is noted
start from the begining.......1 down on the win.....2 up on the lose....
then you will have real results.This progression my friend George,is artificial
only staking scale that you follow throughout a play......in other words,its not
a progression that you follow to win 1 unit but your guide.
17 numbers.....when are you going to reveal your secrets Crisby boy....as
last time you did something similar your unswer on my questiojn was;
for couple of daysÄââ,¬Â¡-----but days are passing bye...jnot anys help from you.

[GLC]

Flatino,

I tested your system playing just like you said.  I was up 140 units and then had a bad streak and got down -120 and then came back to +300 when I quit.

It was actually pretty steady gains except for the one really bad series where 13-18 got really hot.

Nevertheless, with a 500 unit bank roll, this does look like it's a pretty solid method.

It's really a form of playing 2 dozens with the zero taken out of play. 

12 numbers still kill us, but it's more stable than just betting 2 dozens.

Now if we can just get Chris to spill the beans on his mysterious 17 numbers holy grail.

Cheers,

George

[chrisbis]

Under stress test at the moment George.
Analysis to come, in approx one week.

[iamvaljean]

There is one thing I do not get. If you could explain a bit more, please...

These spins are taken from you .xls file:

13         
32         
15         
16         
33         
31         
13         
17         
18         
15         
27         10th. Step
24         
35         
36         
32         
3      w   4th.step

So, if it is up two steps on a loss, does this mean that after 10 consecutive losses, you get to a step 20 in your progression!? That is a loss of roughly 2300 units. Am I right?

To make things worse, after the 10 consecutive losses, there is just one win and again three losses more. If I understood correctly, that means one step down the ladder (the progression) but six steps up so we would add approximately 1500 units to the losses...

I have just not tested your way yet, I was just wondering if I got it right as 3800+ to recover is quite a lot of units....

[GLC]

Under stress test at the moment George.
Analysis to come, in approx one week.

Dearest Chrissy,

I'm so mad at you.  I'm like a 5 year old I saw in a film where they were testing different ages for impulse control.  They put a piece of the kids favorite candy on a plate and told him that if he wouldn't eat the candy for 5 minutes, he could have that one plus 3 more just like it.  Then they left him alone in the room.  Oh, the twisting and turning and agonizing over that piece of candy.  About 1 minute later he's got chocolate all over this face and hands.  Just couldn't wait for the big reward.

I'm like that 5 year old.  No impulse control.  I don't like delayed gratification.  You're killing me.

All I've got to say is, "It better be good!!!!!" or I'm taking you off my Christmas list.



Geo

[GLC]

There is one thing I do not get. If you could explain a bit more, please...

These spins are taken from you .xls file:

13         
32         
15         
16         
33         
31         
13         
17         
18         
15         
27         10th. Step
24         
35         
36         
32         
3      w   4th.step

So, if it is up two steps on a loss, does this mean that after 10 consecutive losses, you get to a step 20 in your progression!? That is a loss of roughly 2300 units. Am I right?

To make things worse, after the 10 consecutive losses, there is just one win and again three losses more. If I understood correctly, that means one step down the ladder (the progression) but six steps up so we would add approximately 1500 units to the losses...

I have just not tested your way yet, I was just wondering if I got it right as 3800+ to recover is quite a lot of units....

All I can say about that run of luck is that's why we have to have a reasonable stop loss.  At any time we can get the streak from hell and that is a prime example of a streak from hell.

Glad you were just testing and not playing for real.

Actually, since you ask your question, I realize that I was playing incorrectly.  I was just adding one bet level after a loss and decreasing 1 bet level after 2 wins then reset to beginning after reaching even or plus.

I also tested this with good results by betting 1 unit on 0,1,2,3;  2 units on the 3 lines;  1 unit on 10,11,12..

After seeing your series of spins, we may have to stop betting after a couple of losses in a row or even within say 3 spins and then not resume until we have a couple of virtual wins.  That will prevent long losses like this from wiping us out.

What do you think Flatino.  (You're probably at the casino collecting your daily allowance.)

Geo