*PATTERN BREAKER*

[Robeenhuut]

You have 100 boxes each  containing 100 balls. There are mostly white but we also have some red balls. You dont know exact number of red balls - the most probable scenario is 100 but we can also have 50 or 200. You pick 100 balls and try to avoid red ones. What would you do?
Pick just one ball from each box or pick 10 balls from 10 boxes or just pick one box at random? 

[Johnlegend]

You have 100 boxes each  containing 100 balls. There are mostly white but we also have some red balls. You don't know exact number of red balls - the most probable scenario is 100 but we can also have 50 or 200. You pick 100 balls and try to avoid red ones. What would you do?
Pick just one ball from each box or pick 10 balls from 10 boxes or just pick one box at random? 

You have 200 euro 18 months later you have 50,000 euro. What do you tell yourself. It grew to that amount all by itself.?

[Robeenhuut]

Steve you have your ideology of play, I have mine. You skirted around my explanation of why your 10,000 player explanation is flawed. And twisted my explanation of why H.A.R works to suit what you asume is fact. that's why I am doing the challenge Steve. Can I fake my way to 50,000 plus euros from a few hundred?  Of course not.

All people not just you Steve who think math explains EVERYTHING, can't and neverwill understand that math doesn't hold all the anwsers when it comes to beating this game. I played for years as most do AND LOST. that's a fact. When I adopted the H.A.R approach. I started to make overall profit and have never looked back. When I spoke of MENTALY able to beat this game. Your response was you asume everyone already has the capacity to play the system to the rules.

that's not what I'm talking about. The biggest weak point when it comes to beating this game is a persons MINDSET. Their lack of STAYING POWER, IRON DISCIPLINE, and above all PATIENCE. If I tell 10 people to play PATTERN BREAKER a certain way. You can bet your life,  some of them won't. Theyll fold when they don't get the results they expect.

The people who have what it takes mentaly to beat this game are going to succeed. You and many others basically called  PILOT a liar when he made his claim for PATTERN BREAKER. You had to do this, because you personaly believe only your approach can be successful.

And that's why I am going to prove over the next  1,2,3  however many years it takes to sink in. This game is ABSOLUTELY beatable LONGTERM. When you apply the right method/s strategy of play, and mental approach to it. Players of my ilk will only ever be a tiny minority. I know this already. But just watch what the next 3 years brings. And try and tell me or yourself its all LUCK.

I was the main culprit that questioned Mr Pilot stats. But he did not play the way you suggested John. You dont play R/B with PB. At least it was what you suggested recently when i think Paul reported having had more than average loses playing R/B. You just change your approach very often. If Pilot loses only ONCE in 180 games betting against RBR then let him play R/B as well. If somebody posts a loss with 8 on 1 on BVNZ then you come up with a theory why regular BV is better to play than BVNZ.     Your challenge with bold predictions for next 3 years?  So far in 2 months on BV in quite large number of games when we factor in one mistakenly placed 5 euro bet you stand at around 18 euro after starting at 20. Yeah you lost twice in a day with 8 on 1 but on columns so it does not count. You complain that you need to place other bets to generate spins on  BV but you have so many other winning methods. So the bottom line is that you managed so far to lose 10% from your starting BR in my math. Bayes RNG part we have to disregard. You almost busted out but then suddenly produced this miracle run with FIVE. There was a possibility that it was flawed and until i saw your other stats i was ready to give you benefit of the doubt.
I wont debate you more on math,statistics or HAR. There is no point. Anyway I guess that  now you will be busy enough  to go from 20 to 50k. Hope that BV wont cheat if you continuously take money from them.

Good LUCK

Regards

[Johnlegend]

I was the main culprit that questioned Mr Pilot stats. But he did not play the way you suggested John. You don't play R/B with PB. At least it was what you suggested recently when i think Paul reported having had more than average loses playing R/B. You just change your approach very often. If Pilot loses only ONCE in 180 games betting against RBR then let him play R/B as well. If somebody posts a loss with 8 on 1 on BVNZ then you come up with a theory why regular BV is better to play than BVNZ.     Your challenge with bold predictions for next 3 years?  So far in 2 months on BV in quite large number of games when we factor in one mistakenly placed 5 euro bet you stand at around 18 euro after starting at 20. Yeah you lost twice in a day with 8 on 1 but on columns so it does not count. You complain that you need to place other bets to generate spins on  BV but you have so many other winning methods. So the bottom line is that you managed so far to lose 10% from your starting BR in my math. Bayes RNG part we have to disregard. You almost busted out but then suddenly produced this miracle run with FIVE. There was a possibility that it was flawed and until i saw your other stats i was ready to give you benefit of the doubt.
I won't debate you more on math,statistics or HAR. There is no point. Anyway I guess that  now you will be busy enough  to go from 20 to 50k. Hope that BV won't cheat if you continuously take money from them.

Good LUCK

Regards

Made my mistakes on the format coming to terms with moving the wheel. I went from 20 euro to 31.73 and all the way back down to 20.86 at one point Matt. But now Im only playing ONE METHOD can you guess which one? And yes im playing like PILOT. The only date you need be concerned about is 31/12/2012. The first milestone will be reached by then.

Then the blockbuster era begins when I top it up to 200 euro and play without the 1 euro limit constraint. Then you will see how I really win. How I fluctuate in between will make no difference in the end my objectives will be achieved.

[Robeenhuut]

Made my mistakes on the format coming to terms with moving the wheel. I went from 20 euro to 31.73 and all the way back down to 20.86 at one point Matt. But now I'm only playing ONE METHOD can you guess which one? And yes I'm playing like PILOT. The only date you need be concerned about is 31/12/2012. The first milestone will be reached by then.

Then the blockbuster era begins when I top it up to 200 euro and play without the 1 euro limit constraint. Then you will see how I really win. How I fluctuate in between will make no difference in the end my objectives will be achieved.

John

Really i dont have a clue. I thought that 8 on 1 was the one. Mentioning Mr Pilot suggest a shift  to PB. If so why you abandoned FIVE or 8 on 1?

Regards

[Johnlegend]

John

Really i don't have a clue. I thought that 8 on 1 was the one. Mentioning Mr Pilot suggest a shift  to PB. If so why you abandoned FIVE or 8 on 1?

Regards

For the same reason you and Steve are basically saying he is a liar. I too am amazed by his stats. BUT, I also know what's achieveable with PATTERN BREAKER. Which penny for penny, pound for pound. Is one of the greatest methods of alltime. Now Pilot made the claim, endorsed the method and me.

But left without any proof, so now I'm going to see if his way with the method makes it possible to attain those kind of numbers. I've made a good start almost double his strikerate. But its early days.

Your statistics can't explain everything Matt. For example, what are the odds of a single E/C producing a winning streak over 100? I did this 3 times in one year.

What are the odds of 8 on 1 winning 65 times by the THIRD STEP? My latest run?

[Turner]

Made my mistakes on the format coming to terms with moving the wheel. I went from 20 euro to 31.73 and all the way back down to 20.86 at one point Matt. But now I'm only playing ONE METHOD can you guess which one? And yes I'm playing like PILOT. The only date you need be concerned about is 31/12/2012. The first milestone will be reached by then.

Then the blockbuster era begins when I top it up to 200 euro and play without the 1 euro limit constraint. Then you will see how I really win. How I fluctuate in between will make no difference in the end my objectives will be achieved.

John....crossing t's & dotting i's here
What is the difference between how pilot played and your first post on PB. Ta!
Turner

[Johnlegend]

John....crossing t's & dotting i's here
What is the difference between how pilot played and your first post on PB. Ta!
Turner

He is playing all three even chances TWICE for a total of 6 a day. When I started it was just High and Low for the first 2.5 years. I was playing one game a session 5 times a day. When I was doing this. Three times I broke the 100 barrier in winning streaks. SINCE I started playing 10--15 games a day. My longest winning streak has been 34 games for HIGH LOW.

On BV single zero. I have a joint current winning streak of 29 for HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN. And an overall STRIKERATE of 42/1 since I started playing ALL THREE EVEN CHANCES.

So many including yourself doubt Pilot. But even though its early days I already have more than double the strikerate he averaged for an entire year. Instead of saying NO WAY. I am seeing for myself if its POSSIBLE...

[Turner]

He is playing all three even chances TWICE for a total of 6 a day. When I started it was just High and Low for the first 2.5 years. I was playing one game a session 5 times a day. When I was doing this. Three times I broke the 100 barrier in winning streaks. SINCE I started playing 10--15 games a day. My longest winning streak has been 34 games for HIGH LOW.

On BV single zero. I have a joint current winning streak of 29 for HIGH LOW and ODD EVEN. And an overall STRIKERATE of 42/1 since I started playing ALL THREE EVEN CHANCES.

So many including yourself doubt Pilot. But even though its early days I already have more than double the strikerate he averaged for an entire year. Instead of saying NO WAY. I am seeing for myself if its POSSIBLE...

Its just personal preference if u want to believe piolot or not. That moments gone. I just wanted to know what changes had been made. Thanks
Turner

[Johnlegend]

This is the kicker for me.

Just say JL has finished a session of Pattern Breaker and reached his target and gets up and walks away.
Now somebody else who also plays Pattern Breaker just sits down and starts his session for the day. You can not then say that person has less chance of winning.
There is also the possibility that someone was just leaving after playing his session just before JL sat down and started playing. So does that mean JL has less chance of winning.

If you say it would make no difference for all three different players, you then have to ask what difference it would have made if the same player sat there and played all the way through those three HAR sessions.


bob.

Ugly Bob its time you made it handsome. I will tell you Steve and all the others enquiring WHY. Although I know its not going to make any difference. If your minds made up, your minds made up. As soon as you start playing a session OF ANYTHING. You set off on a track. As sure as night follows day. Stay on that track too long youre going to lose. The smaller the odds of the progression you are playing the sooner the loss is likely to happen.

When you get up and leave the next player sits down and starts his session. Is he on the same track as you? NO, each new player begins THEIR OWN JOURNEY. You should all know that the differnece between winning and losing with any method and any progression boils down to a single spin. And that is why each player indeed has an equal chance of winning and losing.
So I can already hear the next question. WHY doesn't THAT SAME PLAYER SIMPLY

CHANGE TABLES OR TAKE A BREAK? Well you should anyway. Ideally if you are playing 6 games a day. You should play no more than 3 at any one session. The more times you stick your hand into the pot of fortune. The greater the chance Mr random will bite it.
I didn't form this attitude out of thin air. I lost at roulette the first 10 years I played the game. I used to observe this fella. He would come into the casino and play two or three bets. nearly always cashed his chips as a winner and walk out. While the mugs (me one of them) would sit there half the night giving their money to the casino. I started to think about that seriously.

And since I adopted a similar style of play. I have been an overall winner. If I could sit there all night and win of course I would. BUT YOU CANNOT. Mr random will bite you in half if you get too greedy. Just as when I played only 5 games a day of PATTERN BREAKER. My winning streaks were longer. As soon as I opted to play more games per calendar day. My winning streaks became shorter.

How do you explain this? You can't, but you come to realize theres something to it. And its up to you how you respond to it. Now the only reason this thread is at the top of the forum again. Is Pilots amazing revelation. Isnt it funny how large sums of money stir interest. Even the forum owner who normally doesn't get involved in these threads.

Because his VB style of play is so superior to what we do, had to get on this. But the more I think of how Pilot played for an entire year. The more I realize its possible. He attained a running strikerate of 20/1 throughout the year. I have been above this many times but normally settle around 14/1. In recent times I have dropped to 10/1 again because of INCREASED DAILY FREQUENCY of play. But now I'm playing as Pilot did only on BV. My strikerate has gone through the roof again.

Currently at 42/1. So I don't dismiss people who make great claims. Especially using a method I know played H.A.R is one of the greatest. I say if he did it. I will see if I can too. That's all there is to it. 

[TwoCatSam]

Since the word "track" was used, I'll use it.

Let's imagine a train on a track.  At some point down the line a large tree has fallen across the tracks.  (Random)   Let's further imagine that the train stops each mile and a passenger gets off and a passenger gets on.  We don't know how far down the line the tree is.

Now.................

If no passengers got off but one got on each mile, all would hit the tree.  If one got off and one got on, one would hit the tree.  What ugly bob and I are saying is this:  Each passenger who gets on is one mile closer to hitting the tree.  Since there is no way to know where the tree is, passenger A cannot get off the train and say to passenger B, "Hey, Bro!  You're going to hit the tree."  Thus if passenger A and B both stayed on the train, both would have exactly the same chance of hitting the tree.  One could not have more/less of a chance by riding one more mile than the other.

Finally, if you rode this train enough you would be the one who got on at the wrong time.  You simply cannot dodge the tree any more than random dictates. 

Relating to roulette......................

If it were possible to just drop in at the right time, who's to say what the right time is?  I am seriously thinking of running a test where I use any number with zero in it and bet a dozen or column right after it.  I'll toss a die and 1 2 3 4 5 6 will represent the dozens/columns.  There you have a random selection of when to bet and a random selection of where to bet.

Over time, it will totally even out to match what the odds dictate it should.  If not, I get rich! 

Sam

[Johnlegend]

Since the word "track" was used, I'll use it.

Let's imagine a train on a track.  At some point down the line a large tree has fallen across the tracks.  (Random)   Let's further imagine that the train stops each mile and a passenger gets off and a passenger gets on.  We don't know how far down the line the tree is.

Now.................

If no passengers got off but one got on each mile, all would hit the tree.  If one got off and one got on, one would hit the tree.  What ugly bob and I are saying is this:  Each passenger who gets on is one mile closer to hitting the tree.  Since there is no way to know where the tree is, passenger A cannot get off the train and say to passenger B, "Hey, Bro!  You're going to hit the tree."  Thus if passenger A and B both stayed on the train, both would have exactly the same chance of hitting the tree.  One could not have more/less of a chance by riding one more mile than the other.

Finally, if you rode this train enough you would be the one who got on at the wrong time.  You simply cannot dodge the tree any more than random dictates. 

Relating to roulette......................

If it were possible to just drop in at the right time, who's to say what the right time is?  I am seriously thinking of running a test where I use any number with zero in it and bet a dozen or column right after it.  I'll toss a die and 1 2 3 4 5 6 will represent the dozens/columns.  There you have a random selection of when to bet and a random selection of where to bet.

Over time, it will totally even out to match what the odds dictate it should.  If not, I get rich! 

Sam

Yes Sam but you can also get on the train AFTER the tree has FALLEN and been cleared off the track by these nice men in protective hats. Think that one over....

[TwoCatSam]

John

I'm allowing room for thought that you could be right.  Frankly, I hope you are.

Sam

[Johnlegend]

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I'm allowing room for thought that you could be right.  Frankly, I hope you are.

Sam

Sam its never let me down longterm. I am happy you are part of you know what. I'm donating to the cause. You are in good hands Snubby has a great head for this game.

[trebor]

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I'm allowing room for thought that you could be right.  Frankly, I hope you are.

Sam

Sam its never let me down longterm. I am happy you are part of you know what. I'm donating to the cause. You are in good hands Snubby has a great head for this game.

"Snubby" !     

Was that a Freudian slip?

Trebor