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DoctorSudoku

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Mar 11, 09:56 AM 2018


Ricky,
This is the book in question:

link:s://:.amazon.com/Thirteen-Against-Bank-Roulette-Unbeatable/dp/1843440326/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1520776197&sr=8-13&keywords=norman+leigh

I have the book -- it is a delightful read.

The Reverse Labouchere method that Norman Leigh employed requires a fairly large spread between the minimum and maximum betting limits.

Usually, such large spreads are not available in BM casinos in the US.

That is a practical problem that we face (many online casinos in other countries do have the large spreads that this method requires).



The reverse labouchere method discussed in the above book is suitable for a group of individuals playing as a team. There is too much constant tracking of multiple EC bets required that is better done by a team.

The author supposedly had developed an alternate version that could be played by an individual playing solo. But he could not publish it before he died in the late 1980s or the early 1990s.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

sentinel3

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Mar 10, 08:22 PM 2018


$100 a day from each casino might be -- again -- pushing it.

$100 every few days (or maybe just once a week) from each casino is probably less problematic.

Don't get greedy.

Remember, in a tussle over money, online casinos have nearly all the power.

You ...... much less so.
Good advice Dr. GREED will be manys undoing..I never take more than 25 a day off any online casino. You have to stay under the radar for as long as possible.

If im taking â,¬25 off an online casino twice a week. And someone else is taking â,¬100 everyday. Who is more likely to come under scrutiny?


Ricky

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Mar 11, 10:10 AM 2018


The reverse labouchere method discussed in the above book is suitable for a group of individuals playing as a team. There is too much constant tracking of multiple EC bets required that is better done by a team.

The author supposedly had developed an alternate version that could be played by an individual playing solo. But he could not publish it before he died in the late 1980s or the early 1990s.
The only game that will give me this large spread is at my BM casin playing Rapid Roulette with a range from 1 to 10,000. This will be great for this type of system. My only concern is what controls does the casino put on these rapid roulette machines. You would hope the ball bounce is fair. The only way to play is for the opposite bets to be made on two seperate machines

Cheers,
Ricky.

andrebac

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 10, 06:41 PM 2018
Can anyone give me suggestions of trusted sites that have baccarat tables?
I'll open multiple accounts at multiple casinos.
I play at DublinBet.

888.com
I play there since many years, trustworthy and no problem for withdrawals
A

Andre Chass

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 11, 01:46 AM 2018
*Be sure those multiple casinos are part of different companies.

How can I know that?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Mar 11, 03:12 AM 2018
:.fairwaycasino.com seems to be trustworthy.
As per other's comments I would not deposit more than you plan to bet for your day's sessions. Once you have made double your deposit I would withdraw it. You could place your funds in a trusted holding account like SKRILL and use it to make any deposits to fund your short term progressions. Also, as Sentinel mentioned, it would be wise to make deposits as well as withdrawals so the casino does not see the money going one way. Even if you withdraw 500 but deposit 200. This will keep you under the radar of any monitoring software. Plan to give some back occasionally. Some casinos have a tipping system which is supposed to go to the dealer but rarely does. I see people regularly tipping 5000-20000 or their currency. If this is euro or USD I could imagine they are making 10 times that much. I suspect this is to ensure they are able to withdraw their winnings. The casino can't claim they are cheating as they just have to point to the big tips they have been giving. I guess it helps them from getting banned.

Cheers,
Ricky

Thank you!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: sentinel3 on Mar 11, 03:57 AM 2018
Are you sure Andre? I went to check out the site. And it says its closed out of business....

Yes I am

I just opened an account yesterday
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Mar 11, 07:03 AM 2018
Hi Andre,
Baccarat system is still going well. I will report my results after playing my first 100 games of both PB and your version. But Just want to clarify a few things on the way you are playing so we can compare notes:
For those just joining here are the rules as we know them:
1. We start tracking a shoe. For me I try to find a shoe that has recently started if not at the beginning. I enter in the results of the hands so far into my tracker.
Ok

2. If we see one of the following patterns we start betting AGAINST the pattern continuing

PBB PBB PB              Bet PBP
PPB PPB PP              Bet PBB
BPP BPP BP              Bet BPB
BBP BBP BB              Bet BPP

Ok

3. Progression is a personal choice but Andre is using 1-1-3. I am using 2-3-5or6 but still experimenting based on hit rate after 100 sessions. If I get close to 98-2 I will go full 3 progression 1-2-4 for equal gain at each step. If most wins coming on 1st step and 3rd step then I will adjust to break even on Step 2. If I start getting high loss rate then I will resort to 2 step 1-2 or virtual bet 1st step 0-1-2

Ok

4. Do not IGNORE tie results as this affects sequence of results. treat it as another unmatched pattern

Ok

5. Stop tracking at the end of the shoe and reset
Ok

Now Andre, I have some questions about the detail.
1. Do you start tracking on the next hand or do you look at the history and check for patterns from beginning of shoe or last 7 or 8 hands?

I look at the hystory last 7, 8 hands

2. When you complete betting on a shoe, do you keep tracking? Or do you wait for the next shoe? I keep on tracking. Sometimes I may have multiple opportunities to bet. I also look at closing out the 7th patterns and bet on the 8th not coming up.

I keep tracking

3. If you are in the middle of betting or about to start betting and it is the end of the shoe, do you continue looking for patterns on the next shoe or use your betting criteria to bet on the next shoe? eg if the pattern you need to bet against is BPP, and the shoe ends, do you continue betting against BPP on the next shoe or do you abandon your bet especially if you had already started betting and lost the 1st or 2nd bets?

I NEVER bet when is the end of the shoe. I look another table.

regards,
Ricky
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Mar 11, 07:40 AM 2018
And one more question, it was asked before, do you ignore the Tie when in betting mode or treat is as a non match and then bet against the next in the sequence?
eg if betting against BPP , the first result is a T, is your next bet "P" or "B"?
cheers,
Ricky

If the tie appears I reset the game and accept the loss (if I had already put some money).

I never ignore the tie. Tracking or betting reset the game
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

As I said before it's a urban legend.

My friend bet sports. He withdraw 15k, 25k and never had any problem.
I've never had problems making withdraws. (More than 20k)


There are thousands of players who enter the casinos every day. When I'm at an online casino I see players betting 40k, 50k on a single bet. $100 is peanuts for casino owners.

link:s://:.google.com/amp/s/:.gamblingmetropolis.com/get-banned-online-casino/amp/#ampshare=link:s://:.gamblingmetropolis.com/get-banned-online-casino/
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 11, 09:15 PM 2018I never ignore the tie. Tracking or betting reset the game
Thats interesting Andre. So if you get a tie in the second or third bet you accept the loss but do not try to recoup your loss in the next hand. So worst case scenario with a 30 30 90 bet you are down 60 if the tie hits on the third bet. That's really sticking to your rules.

Cheers,
Ricky

Apolloo

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 11, 09:26 PM 2018
As I said before it's a urban legend.

My friend bet sports. He withdraw 15k, 25k and never had any problem.
I've never had problems making withdraws. (More than 20k)


There are thousands of players who enter the casinos every day. When I'm at an online casino I see players betting 40k, 50k on a single bet. $100 is peanuts for casino owners.

link:s://:.google.com/amp/s/:.gamblingmetropolis.com/get-banned-online-casino/amp/#ampshare=link:s://:.gamblingmetropolis.com/get-banned-online-casino/

Hi Andre, i carnt remember exactly were i read it but i will find it again for you.
A guy played at same online site for years, but soon as he a started withdrawing consistently they banned him from using the live wheel, live blackjack ect features... All he could use was rng or blackjack computerised.
I honestly think he found a way of beating them at blackjack. Or another sneaky way of winning at bj but he claimed he was just lucky and knew when to raise his stakes.
But yeah it can happen especially if only withdrawing regularly. It will alert them somehow.
But doubt they will just keep all you money and ban you... Bad reputation for someone winning like 0.0001% of there profits whats the point.... They will just find another way to move you on to a different site.

Cheers

Grind hard with the patience and discipline 👊

cht

I have posted on this forum much earlier about why casinos blanket ban the use of mobile device even though the device do not measure the parameters of the wheel and ball. The computer calculates dynamic probabilities with zero physical attributes of the the game.

Yet on forums, there are ignorant fools who keep harping that math and statistics can't beat the game.  :xd:

Online casinos are exposed to this use of computerised math statistics so they ban you for winning in this manner.

With b&m casino, some casinos allow the use of computers until your winnings exceed their threshold surveillance.

Proofreaders2000

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 11, 08:54 PM 2018
How can I know that?

Google "Online Casino Groups" you should get info on which company owns which oc's

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: cht on Mar 12, 12:23 AM 2018


I have posted on this forum much earlier about why casinos blanket ban the use of mobile device even though the device do not measure the parameters of the wheel and ball. The computer calculates dynamic probabilities with zero physical attributes of the the game.

Yet on forums, there are ignorant fools who keep harping that math and statistics can't beat the game.  :xd:

Online casinos are exposed to this use of computerised math statistics so they ban you for winning in this manner.

With b&m casino, some casinos allow the use of computers until your winnings exceed their threshold surveillance.





Just an FYI for you.

Here at B & M  casinos in the US, forget computers -- they will NOT even let you use cell phones near the roulette table.

If you use a cell phone, while standing next to the table, they will ask you to move away from the table.

That has been my experience so far in most of the 12 or so B & M casinos that I have visited.

On the other hand, you can use cell phones at airball terminals freely (I am not sure about computers, though).
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

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