*PATTERN BREAKER*

[Johnlegend]

We can debate whole year here John. I suggested testing your new method n i guess your answer is no. Without real  testing we can only determine here  who has a better debating skills  n ingles is just my 3rd language.  So i let u off d hook here.
You have enough doubters 

Good luck

Robeenhuut, I have enough doubters? I have news for you. I knew even before I ever made a single post on this forum or any forum. I would always be in the tiny minority. And I always will. You keep failing to understand that I don't care. I didn't come here to change your mind Robeenhuut. You are a maths based thinker. You will never change. As won't the likes of Bayes, Superman, Drazen Cro. And too many others to mention. You are already over with this game.

I fully understand that. I came here for the kind of thinker Chauncy47 is. Even better than me by far. This guy got in his car and drove to a casino for 6 months just to test, to show himself. It can be done. Now he is doing it for real. If its already in you. You are going to win at this game. If not. Nothing I say or bring to this forum will make the slightest bit of difference. Remember
MATRIX VERTICAL 5. It was/is as close to a playable holy grail as will EVER be conceived by the human mind. But because it wasn't fast. As a grail never can be. It was passed up and forgotten by everyone. Even I let it go. But I never forget it exists. And will always work IF the right people could stay with it.

THE RIGHT PEOPLE. Now theres a thing. Even Superman was worried. His bot nearly spoke to him.

[beretta28]

I confirm that code 20 system is a disaster!(my post has been cancelled)
On the other hand I must confess that "Pattern breaker" is  much better.
Of course maths kill it,but because it's more related to statistics,I think that this system belong to "solid and resistent systems".
I 'm a bit disappointed due to Mr.Ore tests,but is it really useful test the systems on 50 thousands or more spins?
All systems fail....
50000 spins means in a real Casino,Montecarlo for example, 2000 hours or 1000 days at the table(2 hours a day,more for me it's impossible).
I've played for several years the following  similar system and I was very happy(for a gambler means to be just a bit positif!)
The approach was:
-what's the probability in 24 spins to see the eight patterns of 3 spins?(Mr. Ore please,thanks for calculation)
-I bet on the repeat of one of the previous patterns of three.
If you have(Red/BlacK): RRB,BBR,BRR, BB....now I play Red(repeat of the second
previous pattern)
-The problem is if you have RRR,RRB,RR....what do you play now Red or Black?I used to play for the repeat of most recent one(Black in this case),but after deep analysis I played like that:I track 12 spins BBR,BBR,RBR,BRB.In vertical is better,so:


BBR
BBR
RBR
BRB


Now I look at the first column(3 Black 1 Red) and I play the dominant colour(B),the same in second column(B),in third column I play Red(dominant)
After three spins I cancell the first line(BBR) and I bet with the same criteria.,having all the time under control the last 12 spins.If 2 Black and 2 Red,NO bet!


I used to play flat bet or POSITIVE progression(Guetting)

[Johnlegend]

I confirm that code 20 system is a disaster!(my post has been cancelled)
On the other hand I must confess that "Pattern breaker" is  much better.
Of course maths kill it,but because it's more related to statistics,I think that this system belong to "solid and resistent systems".
I 'm a bit disappointed due to Mr.Ore tests,but is it really useful test the systems on 50 thousands or more spins?
All systems fail....
50000 spins means in a real Casino,Montecarlo for example, 2000 hours or 1000 days at the table(2 hours a day,more for me it's impossible).
I've played for several years the following  similar system and I was very happy(for a gambler means to be just a bit positif!)
The approach was:
-what's the probability in 24 spins to see the eight patterns of 3 spins?(Mr. Ore please,thanks for calculation)
-I bet on the repeat of one of the previous patterns of three.
If you have(Red/BlacK): RRB,BBR,BRR, BB....now I play Red(repeat of the second
previous pattern)
-The problem is if you have RRR,RRB,RR....what do you play now Red or Black?I used to play for the repeat of most recent one(Black in this case),but after deep analysis I played like that:I track 12 spins BBR,BBR,RBR,BRB.In vertical is better,so:


BBR
BBR
RBR
BRB


Now I look at the first column(3 Black 1 Red) and I play the dominant colour(B),the same in second column(B),in third column I play Red(dominant)
After three spins I cancell the first line(BBR) and I bet with the same criteria.,having all the time under control the last 12 spins.If 2 Black and 2 Red,NO bet!


I used to play flat bet or POSITIVE progression(Guetting)

Are you talking to me Beretta?. If so I never confirmed any such thing. Also I don't advocate betting on red and black in any Pattern breaker based method. Its results are inferior to HIGH LOW----ODD EVEN. Here you are playing the layout of the wheel. And the layout for red and black indeed influences the results.

[atlantis]

Hi beretta,
The original code20 thread is locked and of course JL has already announced it was a hoax to bait the maths/naysayers. The real code20 is played with opposite rules which are soon to be posted in a new thread. I can tell you - it looks something special too!
A.

[beretta28]

I used R/B just as exemple.
The same approach is valid for High/Low and,as you say,it will be better

[Johnlegend]

I used R/B just as exemple.
The same approach is valid for High/Low and,as you say,it will be better

It WILL BE. Be sure of that. But the way to play PATTERN BREAKER. Any method based around its concept. Is HIGH LOW/ODD EVEN Simultaneously. The real strength of this method. The powerpoint that's been overlooked. It the rarity of DOUBLE LOSSES. So certain am I that if I lose one I will win the other. I will put at least three times the stake on the second to qualify following a loss.

To recover about 50% of that loss very quickly. By doing so. Even if PATTERN BREAKER. Gave me less than 7/1 over a 500 game pool of play. I will still emerge in profit. That's how you win at this game. By identifying something that hardly ever happens. Its the ONLY WAY. And something the maths boys don't want you to know about.

[beretta28]

I agree that the good way of plaiyng is looking for something that hardly ever happens.


It's the principle of the system I posted here above:playing against all the 8 patterns of three spins appearing in a row  in 24 spins


Compared to your Pattern Breaker is faster,you spend less time at the table.


Is it as valid as Pattern Breaker?
Your opinion?
Thanks

[Johnlegend]

I agree that the good way of plaiyng is looking for something that hardly ever happens.


It's the principle of the system I posted here above:playing against all the 8 patterns of three spins appearing in a row  in 24 spins


Compared to your Pattern Breaker is faster,you spend less time at the table.


Is it as valid as Pattern Breaker?
Your opinion?
Thanks

Yes it is very valid. Elaborate/ EXPLAIN in greater detail how you would play it. I am always open to new suggestions if I see that they represent a real positive improvement.

[Robeenhuut]

Robeenhuut, I have enough doubters? I have news for you. I knew even before I ever made a single post on this forum or any forum. I would always be in the tiny minority. And I always will. You keep failing to understand that I don't care. I didn't come here to change your mind Robeenhuut. You are a maths based thinker. You will never change. As won't the likes of Bayes, Superman, Drazen Cro. And too many others to mention. You are already over with this game.

I fully understand that. I came here for the kind of thinker Chauncy47 is. Even better than me by far. This guy got in his car and drove to a casino for 6 months just to test, to show himself. It can be done. Now he is doing it for real. If its already in you. You are going to win at this game. If not. Nothing I say or bring to this forum will make the slightest bit of difference. Remember
MATRIX VERTICAL 5. It was/is as close to a playable holy grail as will EVER be conceived by the human mind. But because it wasn't fast. As a grail never can be. It was passed up and forgotten by everyone. Even I let it go. But I never forget it exists. And will always work IF the right people could stay with it.

THE RIGHT PEOPLE. Now theres a thing. Even Superman was worried. His bot nearly spoke to him.

Matrix Vertical 5? Who remembers that? Ended in dustbin. Not because it was slow but it did not work period. Like all matrices -  either EC, DZ, CL or mixed.  And 4 the 3rd time what about independent testing of your stuff?  I guess no....  What about Reversed Code 4 attack?
We tested it and most people reported less positive results than u. What can you say about it?
I guess we never going 2 get a straight answer from u.
Just d same mantra about your crusade against math boys and virtues of patience and right frame of mind.

[Johnlegend]

Matrix Vertical 5? Who remembers that? Ended in dustbin. Not because it was slow but it did not work period. Like all matrices -  either EC, DZ, CL or mixed.  And 4 the 3rd time what about independent testing of your stuff?  I guess no....  What about Reversed Code 4 attack?
We tested it and most people reported less positive results than u. What can you say about it?
I guess we never going 2 get a straight answer from u.
Just d same mantra about your crusade against math boys and virtues of patience and right frame of mind.

You are joking Robeenhuut. Matrix 5 will win until the end of time. And what about what?. I have givien my results. And am still testing it. No one stays with a method longer than me from what Ive seen on here apart from a few like Warrior. And Chauncy47. Who are made of th right stuff.
Atlantis I dont really know because he is constantly morphing and changing methods. What happens to the rest of you is you test something for a poultry 100 games or so then declare it a failure if it lost. You call that testing?

[Robeenhuut]

You are joking Robeenhuut. Matrix 5 will win until the end of time. And what about what?. I have givien my results. And am still testing it. No one stays with a method longer than me from what I've seen on here apart from a few like Warrior. And Chauncy47. Who are made of the right stuff.
Atlantis I don't really know because he is constantly morphing and changing methods. What happens to the rest of you is you test something for a poultry 100 games or so then declare it a failure if it lost. You call that testing?

Ok  then lets test it more.  There is plenty of data here posted. I just asked u 3 times 2 test yr systems n u tell me now that i have not done enough testing?  So Warrior n Chauncy47 can you give us some figures?   

[Johnlegend]

Ok  then lets test it more.  There is plenty of data here posted. I just asked u 3 times 2 test yr systems n u tell me now that i have not done enough testing?  So Warrior n Chauncy47 can you give us some figures?

Well ask them. And I will tell you something else. The MATRIX VERTICAL concept is about to make a comeback. I've found the best way to execute it. For realistic turnover. And solid strikerate. AMKs alternating dozens and columns. Have yet again. Shown how special they are.

[Robeenhuut]

Well ask them. And I will tell you something else. The MATRIX VERTICAL concept is about to make a comeback. I've found the best way to execute it. For realistic turnover. And solid strikerate. AMKs alternating dozens and column. Have yet again. Shown how special they are.

Remember John.  Make provisions 4 12 steps. You thought 8 was a limit but randomness is stubborn n it can go 12  Like a good scotch.  I hope that u like a good one.

[Johnlegend]

Remember John.  Make provisions 4 12 steps. You thought 8 was a limit but randomness is stubborn n it can go 12  Like a good scotch.  I hope that u like a good one.

Robeenhuut what method are you referring to???

[Robeenhuut]

Robeenhuut what method are you referring to???

Not Matrix Vertical of some sort?. Ok maybe i was wrong. I thought that in one of yr matrix systems u did not see more than 8 vertical reps?  Sorry my head is spinning already from all yr matrices