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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 02, 02:03 AM 2018
Ok. I believe this is heading where I don’t want it to head.  Now people especially sentinel should read what I have posted before closing their eyes shut.

I said the system he modified holds mathematical edge. I also said I can prove with math it can win 22-1.

However, I suggested you could do a couple of things which doesn’t make you wait like you do now. Playing as many a day is one of those things.  You can continue to live in ignorance about variance and waste your time or go ahead and give my suggestion a thought and try playing more games. Upto you to have a open mind or close it and say, I know what am doing.

As CHT says, I have had my say and am moving on.  All the best mate.
Did it not occur to you that I have tried playing more games.

THE RESULT. THE WIN RATE settled dangerously low at between 8-1 and 9-1. The way I now play the win rate holds between 12--1 and 14--1.

We do things for a reason Tin Soldier. Just like Dr Sudoku realized 4 games a day max made him a winner.

Im telling you what I do works better than playing too much. Where you could run into 4 or 5 losses in a row. Etc. But like I said until you actually play 500 to 1000 games of this thing. You will argue until the cows come home.

Once you have a significant sample of real time experience under your belt. You will humble yourself to what ive just written.

You have to PLAY IT TO KNOW IT...

blueman

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 02, 02:31 AM 2018
Did it not occur to you that I have tried playing more games.

THE RESULT. THE WIN RATE settled dangerously low at between 8-1 and 9-1. The way I now play the win rate holds between 12--1 and 14--1.

We do things for a reason Tin Soldier. Just like Dr Sudoku realized 4 games a day max made him a winner.

Im telling you what I do works better than playing too much. Where you could run into 4 or 5 losses in a row. Etc. But like I said until you actually play 500 to 1000 games of this thing. You will argue until the cows come home.

Once you have a significant sample of real time experience under your belt. You will humble yourself to what ive just written.

You have to PLAY IT TO KNOW IT...

What is the way you are playing now?

Tinsoldiers

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 02, 02:31 AM 2018Once you have a significant sample of real time experience under your belt. You will humble yourself to what ive just written.
Learn a thing or two today mate. Making assumptions of things that you don’t know is not a good thing. You know only what you know. As I write this am playing my 438th game.  My experience - you don’t have to restrict yourselves. I get anywhere between 0-2 losses for every 24 games.

It is your life and your game boss. You choose to live in ignorance. I can only tell you that there is a road that has been laid new. You can chose to listen or follow the bumpy old road. I am not here to change the world. But if you choose to make wrong assumptions about what I do in my life, I can say for sure that is something you don’t know anything about. Thanks mate for listening

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 02, 03:55 AM 2018
Learn a thing or two today mate. Making assumptions of things that you don’t know is not a good thing. You know only what you know. As I write this am playing my 438th game.  My experience - you don’t have to restrict yourselves. I get anywhere between 0-2 losses for every 24 games.

It is your life and your game boss. You choose to live in ignorance. I can only tell you that there is a road that has been laid new. You can chose to listen or follow the bumpy old road. I am not here to change the world. But if you choose to make wrong assumptions about what I do in my life, I can say for sure that is something you don’t know anything about. Thanks mate for listening
Just a minute, so you are telling me you have played 438 real games with a live dealer?

Or just paper tested against old spins?

I suspect the latter. Its not the same thing at all. So you have played 438 games. What is your current win/loss record?

Tinsoldiers

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 02, 05:48 AM 2018Just a minute, so you are telling me you have played 438 real games with a live dealer?
Yes. No waiting times, no playing 4-5 games a day, play as much as i can and today is the 5th day in running. Speed roulette table on betfair suits me fine as you dont need more than 2 seconds to place your bets and they spin close to 2 spins a minute. And I dont believe in paper testing. As long as my number crunching is right, i test playing one or two games and then dive in.

I already told you results of the games. Here it goes again. I see them in sets of 24 games each. 6 sets of 24 games had all wins, 7 sets of 24 games had 1 loss each and 4 sets of 24 games had 2 losses each and 1 set of 24 game had 4 losses in it. I am playing the 19th 24 game set now. 

432 games and 19 losses if I put it your way and that is a little better than 22-1 ratio. I play a different money management than what you do, but if I play the 1-3-7 you adviced then this is +204 units.

Now again, my point is not to establish your method is winning or losing. Not to establish whether you are riding on your luck or it is a mathematical winning game. If it wins for you am happy for you, and if it wins am very happy that you shared it.  Let me remind you again, my sole purpose is to tell you that variance as you think is not variance.Variance will catch you whether you play 5 games a day or 50 games a day. Variance does not know when you are playing which game. It only knows numbers. It does not matter whether you play 1000 games in one day or you play one game for 1000 days. It is what it is - 1000 games. 

Based on my experience on playing real spins I reiterate what I have observed - it does not matter whether you bet for or against the pattern, it does not matter whether you play 5 games a day or 200 games a day and there definitely is a possibility I can work towards to play every spin and not play a waiting game. Now I will let you decide what to do with this information, as I do not think I should continue, as I dont want to sound like a moron.

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 02, 06:40 AM 2018
Yes. No waiting times, no playing 4-5 games a day, play as much as i can and today is the 5th day in running. Speed roulette table on betfair suits me fine as you dont need more than 2 seconds to place your bets and they spin close to 2 spins a minute. And I dont believe in paper testing. As long as my number crunching is right, i test playing one or two games and then dive in.

I already told you results of the games. Here it goes again. I see them in sets of 24 games each. 6 sets of 24 games had all wins, 7 sets of 24 games had 1 loss each and 4 sets of 24 games had 2 losses each and 1 set of 24 game had 4 losses in it. I am playing the 19th 24 game set now. 

432 games and 19 losses if I put it your way and that is a little better than 22-1 ratio. I play a different money management than what you do, but if I play the 1-3-7 you adviced then this is +204 units.

Now again, my point is not to establish your method is winning or losing. Not to establish whether you are riding on your luck or it is a mathematical winning game. If it wins for you am happy for you, and if it wins am very happy that you shared it.  Let me remind you again, my sole purpose is to tell you that variance as you think is not variance.Variance will catch you whether you play 5 games a day or 50 games a day. Variance does not know when you are playing which game. It only knows numbers. It does not matter whether you play 1000 games in one day or you play one game for 1000 days. It is what it is - 1000 games. 

Based on my experience on playing real spins I reiterate what I have observed - it does not matter whether you bet for or against the pattern, it does not matter whether you play 5 games a day or 200 games a day and there definitely is a possibility I can work towards to play every spin and not play a waiting game. Now I will let you decide what to do with this information, as I do not think I should continue, as I dont want to sound like a moron.
Well its time for me to throw down the gauntlet. I am the creator of this System. Yes I am the one formerly known as JOHN LEGEND.

And im going to tell you. If you are telling me the truth  You have achieved an overall strikerate. I have never hit in 11 years and 13,000 games since I created this baby.

Maybe we should all start playing speed roulette. In 13,000 odd games on a real wheel. My average strikerate has been 14--1. And people have called me a liar for that.

So if you are really hitting 22--1 playing  all day long. You are doing better than I ever did.

Tinsoldiers

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 02, 06:58 AM 2018Well its time for me to throw down the gauntlet. I am the creator of this System. Yes I am the one formerly known as JOHN LEGEND
I am out of this thread as I know what is going to happen now. Enjoy the posts that follow this.

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 02, 07:02 AM 2018
I am out of this thread as I know what is going to happen now. Enjoy the posts that follow this.
Relax nobody here remembers me. It was 6 years ago I was last on here as JL.

Probably will be banned again now ive come out  But just wanted you to know. Ive seen it all with this system. And if you are truly hitting that strikerate. And can hold it. You are doing better than me and anyone Ive ever known who has played it longterm. Kudos to you...

Tinsoldiers

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 02, 07:28 AM 2018
And can hold it.
19 sets is a very small sample. But I am not doing anything different from what you have said except for playing more games in a day

atlantis

Hi JL,

I just KNEW that it was you all the time. :)
Anyhow, I'm pleased you came clean and finally admitted it.
Welcome back to the forum and many thanks for continuing this great topic. Forget the past history, I'm really glad you're back contributing and helping others to master this game and search for the ultimate casino-breaker.

Best regards,
Atlantis
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

sugtips

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 02, 07:40 AM 2018
Hi JL,

I just KNEW that it was you all the time. :)
Anyhow, I'm pleased you came clean and finally admitted it.
Welcome back to the forum and many thanks for continuing this great topic. Forget the past history, I'm really glad you're back contributing and helping others to master this game and search for the ultimate casino-breaker.

Best regards,
Atlantis

Same here.

Thank you Sir JL, Sentinel3 and The Bedsit Botter. I knew all these three persons are same.

Thank you Sir JL for this masterpiece. any other variation for fast playing at B&M will be highly appreciated.

Love and Light ,
SugTips.
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

sentinel3

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 02, 07:40 AM 2018
Hi JL,

I just KNEW that it was you all the time. :)
Anyhow, I'm pleased you came clean and finally admitted it.
Welcome back to the forum and many thanks for continuing this great topic. Forget the past history, I'm really glad you're back contributing and helping others to master this game and search for the ultimate casino-breaker.

Best regards,
Atlantis
ha ha i never could fool you Atlantis. I know my writing style is hard to disguise. Yes I didnt want to announce it straight off because I wanted to get a few tweaks across for PB. But Tin soldier pushed my buttons.

With his claim for an amazing continuous strikerate for PB. So I just had to let him know that amazes me as the author and long time user of this system.

sentinel3

Quote from: sugtips on Feb 02, 07:54 AM 2018
Same here.

Thank you Sir JL, Sentinel3 and The Bedsit Botter. I knew all these three persons are same.

Thank you Sir JL for this masterpiece. any other variation for fast playing at B&M will be highly appreciated.

Love and Light ,
SugTips.
Uh BEDSIT BOTTER LMAO. No sugtips that definately wasnt me.

I was indeed formerly known as JL. I am thankful for your kind words though. Thankyou very much.

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 02, 07:38 AM 2018
19 sets is a very small sample. But I am not doing anything different from what you have said except for playing more games in a day
Tin Soldier lets start over.

All I can say is well done. And that is amazing. To be honest. I havent played enough games with the revised system of using all three even chances simultaneously to find that first bet.

So its possible the strikerate is capable of getting as high as you have gotten.

If thats the case i will have to use it with more regularity myself. And this system just became one of the greatest for sure. If I say so myself.

It occurred to me recently that while I used to single out just one even chance at a time. Initially H L as everyone knows.

I might be missing something more powerful. If playing the even chances as a whole set. And if what you are reporting is what is to be expected and enjoyed. We have something very powerful here indeed.

denzie

Aha your the famous JL.
Now let me ask you... how did your other systems go ? I've heard you was going on a huge casinotrip to make a killing. Did you?


Now back to that Magic first game. Why you think its special ? You let the Wheel decide when to start. But you use this strategy daily. Dont you think that variance will come on those first games ? Ill give you the answer .... many small games make one BIG game....therefor that variance you try to avoid  will come get you. I PROMISE  :thumbsup:
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