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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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sentinel3

Quote from: Madi on Feb 03, 03:59 PM 2018
Ye thats is acceptable. Average 50 spin waiting can get 1 unit per spin. But no penny roulette .
No im gonna speak plain here about BANKROLL.

Too many people on these forums want to become rich. When they dont even have a 200 unit bankroll.

You should take your time and save at LEAST $500/EURO. Before you start your journey.

Your base bet should be 0.5% of your TOTAL BANKROLL.

So if you have a bankroll of $200. Your base bet should be $1. If you have a bankroll of $2000. Your base bet should be around $10. Thats how you do it. Then if your system is any good. You will never ever be wiped out.

So when someone risks way above that. They put themselves in danger of being wiped out. Or losing a large portion of their bank. Then feeling terrible and losing faith in their ability to be successful at this game.

Everyone wants to be rich overnight. Thats human nature. But this game does not forgive players who try to run before they can barely crawl.

If im betting at a base of $30 be sure i have at least $6000 behind me. And thats how its done.

sentinel3

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 03, 04:08 PM 2018
Well, I'm out

I wish you all the best!
And I wish you all the best. Lets hope you dont run into the things ive seen.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 03, 03:36 PM 2018
Trust me Dr it will be winning long after you and me are gone. Its a winner. It puts random on the spot and 14 times out of 15 on average. Random fails to decode that final pattern.

And now Tin Soldiers claims he has been getting 22--1 playing all day long. With the revised system im now using.

I havent hit that yet overall but on my banker bet. The first bet of the day. Im hitting 22--1.

JL,
I am not very confident that he will keep getting positive results like that consistently, if he is playing ALL DAY long.

I still think that the key is to play this method on a strictly hit and run basis and also playing it sparingly (maybe 4 games a day or, like me, 4 games per casino visit).
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

DoctorSudoku

Another thing: theoretical expectations are that this is a 7-1 method -- you will get 7 wins for every 1 loss.

I am on average getting about 12 wins for every 1 loss (again, using my specific set of tweaks).
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

sentinel3

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 03, 04:32 PM 2018
JL,
I am not very confident that he will keep getting positive results like that consistently, if he is playing ALL DAY long.

I still think that the key is to play this method on a strictly hit and run basis and also playing it sparingly (maybe 4 games a day or, like me, 4 games per casino visit).
DR you know I agree with you. I average 6 games a day myself. And ive never gotten over 16--1 EVER.

So I was amazed to hear he was getting 22--1. The only thing I hit that kind of strikerate on is my first game of the day.

Overall no way. Which tells you playing less should indeed yield better results.

Less chance of hitting 4 losses in a row. See Ive recorded 4 losses in a row while testing things. But never PLAYED 4 losses in a row.

Thats why BOTS are useless for testing a system like PB Dr. They just run in a continuous line picking up all the disastrous downturns a system might run into.

While in reality the player is exposing themselves to that nasty variance. For a micro fraction of the time.

Ive had days where ive bet for 3 spins. Theyve all won and im out of there.
😎

sentinel3

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 03, 04:46 PM 2018
Another thing: theoretical expectations are that this is a 7-1 method -- you will get 7 wins for every 1 loss.

I am on average getting about 12 wins for every 1 loss (again, using my specific set of tweaks).
Thats fantastic dr. I can see the value of the two step tweak..The only reason I maintain the 3 step is because ive been with it for so long.

And my first game of the day holds up very well on it. For example im currently on a streak of 22 days with my first game of the day.

And 4 of those 21 wins won on the third step of the prog. So I dont mind it when I know i can win over 30 times in a row on that first game.

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 03, 01:40 PM 2018
He plays this way


Wait one of these two patterns to form and bet against immediately.

R     
B
B

Bet
B
R
R
...................

B
R
R

Bet
R
B
B

Progression 1-2-4 stoploss

PS Never bet against RRR or BBB or BRB or RBR
Yes and no.

1. The only pattern I don't bet against is RRR and BBB - the frequency distribution told us that.

2. I don't bet immediately after they are formed. Appollo's bets show there are losses, too many of them. >:D

3. I optimised the bet with tweaks made on what pattern I bet and when I bet them - it's based on statistics.

4. I bet ALL signals - no choosing or play short run or bet more money 1st bet of the day or any other similar approaches.

5. The win rate is >= 15:1 At the casino,  I have a profit target of 14units. Stop loss is also 14units - my daily bankroll. it has not gone into any drawdown since the winrate is that high. Although statistically it can have a 2 or 3 loss streak.

6. My money management is $100, $200, $400. Daily buy in br is $1400 - it's new so it's lower than my usual buy in.

Is it better than the original JL PB?

By a mile,  Andre you know that too.  Statistics don't lie. :thumbsup:

Credit goes to JL,  lets not forget that.

cht

Quote from: Apolloo on Feb 03, 04:04 AM 2018
Hi cht

Dont understand how you doubled account in 45 spins.
Playing PB you can get 7 units to 8u maybe 9u in 45 spins... Unless you playing a different way. Or im missing something.

Cheers
For roulettesimulator I played 1session to demonstrate how fast the game can be,  I use 330/660/1320 slightly higher than what I play at the casino. Profit target - 100% returns on sessions br.

I play ALL signals as and when they appear. If BR, HL,  OE signals appear at the same time I play ALL of them. The signals are statistically independent.

***You will notice my game is not rated. I don't want my game to be permanently recorded - it's just a demonstration of how a session plays out.

Tinsoldiers

Looks like a happy group where everyone is making money in the casino :wink:   I thought it is easy to speak truth when you are behind an online identity.  So yes, everyone is really happy making money here.  :-X

Andre Chass

CHT

I play all the signals at the same time too.

I don't bet immediately.  For example, the pattern RBB is formed. I wait hit RB (virtual loss) then I bet against.

It's best, faster.and easier. We dont have to wait for a lot of spins before we bet.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 03, 07:16 PM 2018
CHT

I play all the signals at the same time too.

I don't bet immediately.  For example, the pattern RBB is formed. I wait hit RB (virtual loss) then I bet against.

It's best, faster.and easier. We dont have to wait for a lot of spins before we bet.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Play it with baccarat to avoid the zero risk. You just pay the commission for banker. Change your MM to 0/1/2 to pay lesser commission and also to give you more time for your bets.  :thumbsup:

Another advantage is the casino thinks there's no advantage play for baccarat. We're just some random luckyfella !  :xd: :xd: :xd:

cht

Et al - don't believe what Andre and I posted. We both point you a much better path - an upgrade if I may.

Test it out yourself. Believe what your own test shows you.  :thumbsup:

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Feb 03, 07:25 PM 2018
Et al - don't believe what Andre and I posted. We both point you a much better path - an upgrade if I may.

Test it out yourself. Believe what your own test shows you.  :thumbsup:

You are absolutely right!  :thumbsup:
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

sugtips

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 03, 04:46 PM 2018I am on average getting about 12 wins for every 1 loss (again, using my specific set of tweaks).

I appreciate if you share your tweaks doctor.

Thanks
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

sugtips

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 03, 03:46 PM 2018Wait one of these two patterns to form and bet against immediately.

R     
B
B

Bet
B
R
R
...................

B
R
R

Bet
R
B
B

Progression 1-2-4 stoploss

PS Never bet against RRR or BBB or BRB or RBR

Quote from: cht on Feb 03, 06:26 PM 2018Yes and no.

1. The only pattern I don't bet against is RRR and BBB - the frequency distribution told us that.

2. I don't bet immediately after they are formed. Appollo's bets show there are losses, too many of them.

3. I optimised the bet with tweaks made on what pattern I bet and when I bet them - it's based on statistics.

4. I bet ALL signals - no choosing or play short run or bet more money 1st bet of the day or any other similar approaches.

5. The win rate is >= 15:1 At the casino,  I have a profit target of 14units. Stop loss is also 14units - my daily bankroll. it has not gone into any drawdown since the winrate is that high. Although statistically it can have a 2 or 3 loss streak.

6. My money management is $100, $200, $400. Daily buy in br is $1400 - it's new so it's lower than my usual buy in.

Is it better than the original JL PB?

By a mile,  Andre you know that too.  Statistics don't lie.

Credit goes to JL,  lets not forget that.

Quote from: cht on Feb 03, 06:49 PM 2018I play ALL signals as and when they appear. If BR, HL,  OE signals appear at the same time I play ALL of them. The signals are statistically independent.

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 03, 07:16 PM 2018I play all the signals at the same time too.

I don't bet immediately.  For example, the pattern RBB is formed. I wait hit RB (virtual loss) then I bet against.


Thanks God and Good Morning All.
Thank you JL, Sentinel3, Doctor, TS, Andre,  cht and Sir Steve.

I am trying to join puzzle pieces of this new (not so new) RBB-BBR system,  which I call ACC Pattern System.

Can anyone complete it and tell us step by step with money management?

Thanks.
SugTips
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

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