*PATTERN BREAKER*

[cht]

Tbh I love Madi's variant, eliminating the progression.

Sentinel3 has very strong results so why change anything?

It can be improved.

Whoever can improve this current bets he will have learnt about bet sizing.
Anyone ?

[sentinel3]

Tbh I love Madi's variant, eliminating the progression.

Sentinel3 has very strong results so why change anything?

Madi has added another dimension to the pattern breaker saga.

The reason I dont stray from the original is because its served me so well. Especially that first game.

In 2013 it lost only 13 times out of 365 days. I mean come on. How am I going to turn my back on that. Thats a strikerate of 27--1 for that year. When im supposed to be getting 7--1.

See maths can not and does not explain anything when it comes to this game called roulette. Whats on PAPER. And what ACTUALLY HAPPENS are two different things.

[cht]

This tells me people on this forum and other forums as well don't properly understand math and statistics.

It also mean a lot more of what I posted is not properly understood.

Never mind,  moving on.

[Madi]

What u after? Kellys eqation?

[cht]

What u after? Kellys eqation?

Look at sentinel result(bolded).
Post #1959

Can his current 1/2/4 bet be improved  ?

[Madi]

Sorry as i m using phone cant see the post number. But what i understand as long as u use marti u cant do bet sizing.ye by using average and statistical  data can get bit more advantage. Actually i dont play it but u said u play it for baccarat. Why dont u put some statistucal  data.

[Madi]

Or make the marti 

4-2-1 . Funny

[cht]

Sorry as i m using phone cant see the post number. But what i understand as long as u use marti u cant do bet sizing.ye by using average and statistical  data can get bit more advantage. Actually i dont play it but u said u play it for baccarat. Why dont u put some statistucal  data.

Congrats Madi,  I expect you to get it corrrect.

To be clear,  I don't play JL PB.
sentinel is the appropriate person to provide this info.

About kelly eqtn,  you will agree with me it's not suitable to discuss that for now.

[denzie]

Denzie, Madi's method deserves your time to test it to come to a conclusion. Do that test mate.

RRB
RRB
RR.  Now bet for B to come? 1 unit.
If R or 0 comes we wait RR and bet 1unit again ?

If B comes , next RR we bet 2 units on B ? Win or lose reset.

I got it right ?

[cht]

RRB
RRB
RR.  Now bet for B to come? 1 unit.
If R or 0 comes we wait RR and bet 1unit again ?

If B comes , next RR we bet 2 units on B ? Win or lose reset.

I got it right ?

Not 100% sure but I think it's correct.

Update - 75% of br,  another tough day

[denzie]

Not 100% sure but I think it's correct.

Update - 75% of br,  another tough day

A parlay is good on systems with a high win rate.   

So yeah on bacc would be best if we play even chances. No doubt.

Uhm what is it that you playing cht? Not sure if i can find your method on all these pages.

[cht]

A parlay is good on systems with a high win rate.   

So yeah on bacc would be best if we play even chances. No doubt.

Uhm what is it that you playing cht? Not sure if i can find your method on all these pages.

My method is pretty simple that I play on etg baccarat.

When B P P comes,  I wait for B P P to come again then if the next hand shows B I bet against P P for 2hands 1unit each.

I have a long list of when I decide to bet or not bet based on the historical  data collected from my b&m casino over the years. So,  I don't bet on all setups only those qualified setups.

My test showed good results and my current sessions are also good - same as the test results. 

But when I do it, it's very tiring. And now I face an additional problem - one of the etg is faulty, the terminals keep going offline from the server now the game rate is lower.

[sentinel3]

Look at sentinel result(bolded).
Post #1959

Can his current 1/2/4 bet be improved  ?

It can always be improved CHT. Dr Sudoku only plays the first two steps of the prog. And has a 12-1 strike rate doing so. So he is quadrupling his losses.

I dont stray from 1 2 4 for this reason.

I keep trying to get across the first game of the day is where I make my money. Its consistency has no equal in roulette. Nobody can show me another 7 unit risk system that can run at 27/1 for an entire year. No one.

Thats why I am now betting 4 times as much on that first game. As the ones that follow it.

Its a phenom that must be exploited. And now that ive improved my strikerate overall..I cant even imagine what that first game might produce.

I won a 100 plus days in a row twice over the last 11 years just playing HL.

With random now selecting the bet i could have years where it only loses 9 or 10 times in the entire year.

Then what are any of you gonna say. Its just luck. Like f##k it is. Im currently 38--1 for the year. The best start to a year ever.

It scares even me to think what might now be possible with that first game. If I reach december 31st having only lost 10 games. It will not surprise me.

[cht]

I was trying to help you optimise your current marty 1/2/4 bet.  I was not questioning your PB method.

Lets go into the details -

1st spin - 19 wins
2nd spin - 12 wins
3rd spin - 7 wins
1loss
Total game played 39 games.

For the 1st spin bet you won 19 games and  loss 20 games. You betted 1unit - you loss 1unit in total
For the 2nd spin bet you won 12 games and loss 8 games. You betted 2units - you won 8units in total.
For the 3rd spin bet you won 7 games and loss 1game. You betted 4units - you won 24 units.

That's the breakdown how you won your 31 units. Mostly on the 3rd spin due to the higher bet size and higher winrate.

If this frequency distribution holds over the long term large sample size,  it makes math sense to bet 1unit for both 2nd and 3rd spin after a virtual loss in the 1st spin. If the frequency distribution is skewed towards 2nd and 3rd spin then your current 1st spin bet is losing money.

You can make a test based on the 11yrs games that you played. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Find out based on actual games you played.

[cht]

I was trying to help you optimise your current marty 1/2/4 bet.  I was not questioning your PB method.

Lets go into the details -

1st spin - 19 wins
2nd spin - 12 wins
3rd spin - 7 wins
1loss
Total game played 39 games.

For the 1st spin bet you won 19 games and  loss 20 games. You betted 1unit - you loss 1unit in total
For the 2nd spin bet you won 12 games and loss 8 games. You betted 2units - you won 8units in total.
For the 3rd spin bet you won 7 games and loss 1game. You betted 4units - you won 24 units.

That's the breakdown how you won your 31 units[risking 7units per game]. Mostly on the 3rd spin due to the higher bet size and higher winrate.

If this frequency distribution holds over the long term large sample size,  it makes math sense to bet 1unit for both 2nd and 3rd spin after a virtual loss in the 1st spin [risking 2units]. If the frequency distribution is skewed towards 2nd and 3rd spin then your current 1st spin bet is losing money.

You can make a test based on the 11yrs games that you played. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Find out based on actual games you played.

Based on DoctorSudoku method -

For the 1st spin bet you won 19 games and  loss 20 games. You betted 1unit - you loss 1unit in total
For the 2nd spin bet you won 12 games and loss 8 games. You betted 2units - you won 8units in total

Total win is 7units risking 3units playing 39games.

Based on playing on game, ie.  the first spin -

For the 1st spin bet you won 19 games and  loss 20 games.

Total loss of 1unit risking 1unit after playing 39games.