*PATTERN BREAKER*

[Tinsoldiers]

What I did was to eliminate conditions that losing clusters are more likely to occur.

I may not necessarily agree to whatever you have written, but I definitely sign up to this. To win in this game you have to find a way to eliminate losses. 

[sentinel3]

I may not necessarily agree to whatever you have written, but I definitely sign up to this. To win in this game you have to find a way to eliminate losses.

Well you did fine over 500 odd game TS. My strikerate is climbing by the week  last week I was just under 15--1. After this morning I am just over 16--1. Doubt I will ever reach 22-1 overall. But even if it hovers around 15--1 from now on. Thats fantastic.

[denzie]

So if you can give exact rules I could do some testing.
Exact means the rules are of the form :
If ... Then ... Else ...  (Mathematic rules) 

Have a nice day

Good idea. Go for it.

I would like to bet on the outcome on this ..... what you say sentinel? 100 bucks?

Btw if i can guess the exact loss % you need to pay double 

[Tinsoldiers]

My strikerate is climbing by the week  last week I was just under 15--1. After this morning I am just over 16--1.

Over how many games was this 15 strike rate. Is it over 11 years of play or a set of games?

[sentinel3]

Good idea. Go for it.

I would like to bet on the outcome on this ..... what you say sentinel? 100 bucks?

Btw if i can guess the exact loss % you need to pay double 

Denzie if you spent half as much time being positive as you do being negative you would do alright with PB. What are you talking about. There is no loss with PB play EXACTLY as I advise. Not everyone will win as much as eachother.

But I can assure you played exactly as I advise or even as Dr Sudoku advises. You will Profit. Its as simple as that. The only question is will your overall strike rate be 10--1 12--1 or 15--1. Thats what I cannot determine.

[sentinel3]

Over how many games was this 15 strike rate. Is it over 11 years of play or a set of games?

Before I revised the system TS my overall strikerate floated between 10--1 and 12--1. Occasionally going to 14--1 or at the other end 9--1.

At no time from its creation in 2007 to today Did I record a negative result over a 100 game sample. AT NO TIME.

And now with the superior revised version. Thats never happening. The strikerate has moved from 12--1 to 16.2--1 in the last 404 games. THATS UNHEARD OF in its 11 year 14,092 game history.

And I know why. Added to this that i no longer have to ever wait longer than 48 spins to get my bet. Its better than ever. There were times in the past it could go over 100 spins before I was left with pattern 8. That will never ever happen again. 50 spins is a barrier it will rarely pass now. A virtual limit.

Im surprised nobody has realized a key point of exploitation here. Im not handing it to you. You need to so some work for yourselves.

[atlantis]

In response to sugtips...

In addition to 3 pattern types that sentinel3 (JL) uses there ARE other possibilities to take into account that MAY WELL produce even earlier triggers than the 40-50 results that sentinel3 mentioned he had at most to wait for now.

That is to say, to include as well the trios of outcomes that ONLY consist of a mixture of all 3 EC's, R/B; H/L and O/E results:

Patt#4 = H/L; O/E; R/B
Patt#5 = H/L; R/B; O/E
Patt#6 = R/B; H/L; O/E
Patt#7 = R/B; O/E; H/L
Patt#8 = O/E; R/B ;H/L
Patt#9 = O/E; H/L; R/B

This gives the following extra 8 combos for each new pattern

Patt#4      Patt#5   Patt#6   Patt#7  Patt#8  Patt#9
=====      =====    =====    =====   =====   =====
HOR         HRO      RHO      ROH       ORH     OHR
HER          HRE       RHE      REH       ERH       EHR
HOB         HBO      BHO     BOH       OBH      OHB
HEB          HBE       BHE      BEH       EBH       EHB
LOR          LRO       RLO      ROL       ORL       OLR
LER          LRE         RLE      REL         ERL       ELR
LOB          LBO       BLE       BEL        EBL       OLB
LEB           LBE       BLO       BOL       OBL       ELB

Usual PB rules apply; wait for a missing pattern and bet against it.

These are in addition to sentinel3' s existing trio patterns of just ONE EC

Patt#1 = R/B; R/B; R/B
Patt#2 = O/E; O/E; O/E
Patt#3 = H/L; H/L; H/L

Patt#1     Patt#2   Patt#3
=====     =====   =====
RRR        OOO      HHH
BBB        EEE       LLL
RRB        EEO       HHL
BRR        OEE       LHH
RBB        EOO       HLL
BBR        OOE       LLH
BRB        EOE       HLH
RBR        OEO       LHL

However it would be a lot easier and save a lot of TIME and RECORDING if we had a small tracker type console program that would accept input, analyse the results and alert the player to any final missing pattern that is discovered for ALL 9 of these pattern8 combos.

Maybe I will try and write myself a little console prog that can handle that...

A.

[sugtips]

Thanks God and Good Morning All.

Thank you Atlantis for this amazing brainstorming idea.

I am seeing a flaw in it or may be not understanding it well. For example in patt#4  Last remaining pattern is HOR and it comes HRO which is not in patt#4 list.

Please correct me if am wrong.

Thank you for your support.

[Tinsoldiers]

Well, today I set my alarm to 3 AM. Woke up in the middle of night to see those dashing ladies spinning the ball in Eastern Europe and playing the magic FIRST GAME of the day. And you know what it won.  Good on you sentinel. 

ok. I have been testing this with real money 5 games a day in Betfair casino exactly the same way describes by sentinel. I started on 28th. Today is the 13th day.  I do play the magic first game at 3AM as well. I will be posting the results along with the spins for everyone to see and will continue to do this until I reach 100th day. 

There has been lot of claims that I wanted to validate. Two most importantly.

1 - win ratio of 16-1
2 - it has never lost in a 100 game set.

[Apolloo]

Never tested playing all 9 sets of patterns as would be too much to cross off and concentrate on within 15 seconds betting time between spins.
But im sure it will help anyone playing at casino or someone with a tracker on computer to track the patterns.

Attached below!!

Cheers

[cht]

In response to sugtips...

In addition to 3 pattern types that sentinel3 (JL) uses there ARE other possibilities to take into account that MAY WELL produce even earlier triggers than the 40-50 results that sentinel3 mentioned he had at most to wait for now.

That is to say, to include as well the trios of outcomes that ONLY consist of a mixture of all 3 EC's, R/B; H/L and O/E results:

Patt#4 = H/L; O/E; R/B
Patt#5 = H/L; R/B; O/E
Patt#6 = R/B; H/L; O/E
Patt#7 = R/B; O/E; H/L
Patt#8 = O/E; R/B ;H/L
Patt#9 = O/E; H/L; R/B

This gives the following extra 8 combos for each new pattern

Patt#4      Patt#5   Patt#6   Patt#7  Patt#8  Patt#9
=====      =====    =====    =====   =====   =====
HOR         HRO      RHO      ROH       ORH     OHR
HER          HRE       RHE      REH       ERH       EHR
HOB         HBO      BHO     BOH       OBH      OHB
HEB          HBE       BHE      BEH       EBH       EHB
LOR          LRO       RLO      ROL       ORL       OLR
LER          LRE         RLE      REL         ERL       ELR
LOB          LBO       BLE       BEL        EBL       OLB
LEB           LBE       BLO       BOL       OBL       ELB

Usual PB rules apply; wait for a missing pattern and bet against it.

These are in addition to sentinel3' s existing trio patterns of just ONE EC

Patt#1 = R/B; R/B; R/B
Patt#2 = O/E; O/E; O/E
Patt#3 = H/L; H/L; H/L

Patt#1     Patt#2   Patt#3
=====     =====   =====
RRR        OOO      HHH
BBB        EEE       LLL
RRB        EEO       HHL
BRR        OEE       LHH
RBB        EOO       HLL
BBR        OOE       LLH
BRB        EOE       HLH
RBR        OEO       LHL

However it would be a lot easier and save a lot of TIME and RECORDING if we had a small tracker type console program that would accept input, analyse the results and alert the player to any final missing pattern that is discovered for ALL 9 of these pattern8 combos.

Maybe I will try and write myself a little console prog that can handle that...

A.

I created this excel sheet long ago while testing pattern ideas out. It's a maze of patterns !

[sentinel3]

ok. I have been testing this with real money 5 games a day in Betfair casino exactly the same way describes by sentinel. I started on 28th. Today is the 13th day.  I do play the magic first game at 3AM as well. I will be posting the results along with the spins for everyone to see and will continue to do this until I reach 100th day. 

There has been lot of claims that I wanted to validate. Two most importantly.

1 - win ratio of 16-1
2 - it has never lost in a 100 game set.

Lol TS it doesnt have to be 3AM on the dot. I said between 3 and 6am. Dont lose any beauty sleep over this.

Okay the win ratio of 16.2 to be exact is where I stand RIGHT NOW. So over my 14,000 plus results. I am currently averaging 16.2 wins to every loss.

Thats about to go up slightly, as I just won another 3 games in my second session of the day.

What I mean by never lost. It has NEVER dropped below the break even point of 7--1 at anytime over a 100 game set. So from the very first 100 games I played way back in 2007. To my latest 100 games. 8.5--1 is the lowest point its ever touched. And my current wonderful 16.2--1 the highest point its ever been...

Hope that clears that up

[atlantis]

Thanks God and Good Morning All.

Thank you Atlantis for this amazing brainstorming idea.

I am seeing a flaw in it or may be not understanding it well. For example in patt#4  Last remaining pattern is HOR and it comes HRO which is not in patt#4 list.

Please correct me if am wrong.

Thank you for your support.

If the last remaining trio to yet to happen is HOR in pattern#4 then you bet against that; so you would bet on LEB.

Yes a program could quite easily manage 9 pattern sequences of 8 combos. Spreadsheet looks a little confusing - so a small windows console program where you just input the spin numbers 1 at a time or 3 at a time might be the answer. The program would keep track of the patterns and tell you when and what to play. Play your first game - chosen by random itself.

[cht]

If the last remaining trio to yet to happen is HOR in pattern#4 then you bet against that; so you would bet on LEB.

Yes a program could quite easily manage 9 pattern sequences of 8 combos. Spreadsheet looks a little confusing - so a small windows console program where you just input the spin numbers 1 at a time or 3 at a time might be the answer. The program would keep track of the patterns and tell you when and what to play. Play your first game - chosen by random itself.

If you want random to choose when you start your 1st game don't start with the 1st spin when you arrive at the table. Play a game which I posted earlier to determine when to start the spin sequence. That's how I do it, allowing random to start the game. 

The 1st change is when do I start the game. I record the 1st 9 results to find out which holds the majority - Player or Banker. Eg. Player holds the majority I start the game when the 1st column of the 3 series starts with Player. Early Banker series is ignored. If the count is a tie, extend another series.

P B P
B T P
P B P Total 5Player 3Banker, Player majority.
B B P
B P B
P B P Start game.

[atlantis]

Just to  make sure sugtips,

Patt#4     
=====     
HOR         
HER â—™       
HOB â—™       
HEB â—™       
LOR â—™       
LER â—™         
LOB â—™         
LEB â—™ 

When H-O-R is the ONLY pattern not to have shown up, as indicated, bet the opposite combo for the next 3 spins eg: Ist bet L; 2nd bet E; 3rd bet B. Stop at a winner.