*PATTERN BREAKER*

[Turner]

what if you start over at another table or is that also considered as continuosly?

Well here is the old question that creeps into any John Legend post, and that is hit and run.
Johns posts had one thing in common and that is the belief that you could out wit random by "asking random to do something it is not good at" implying that random is a noun and not an adjective.
Surely no one just takes this belief on face value just because John said it?
Surely you would inveatigate whay random means first?
As well as John explains his methods in full...you have to accept blindly his view on random. It is the weakest part of any of his methods.
As for the quote above...why would changing tables or breaking play up with hit and run make any difference to the numbers you play with?
The only time it makes sense to change tables is if the believe the other table is flawed and you can gain some advantage by noting the nature of its bias away from being a random number generator
Having said that....its just negative to assume sentinel and Dr arnt winning with PB....I hope they are but dont just play it becauae they are doing well.....try and understant all ellement that you are seeing especially what random is and what it is not.

[cht]

You should just stick to roulette predictions.      

I expected Kane to put one behind the net. Mkhitaran - Aubameyang did not deliver the goals today. 

Watch Citey lose to Leicester later. 

[sentinel3]

You are generous. I will stick to the first five.  Thanks. I am trusting you a lot, hope it pays off. 
You mentioned in a total of 100 games it never has gone into the negative. Assuming it breaks even in 100 games then I will need a bankroll of 84 units. Let’s go for 100 units to be on the safe side. Considering am going to play across 5 sites, I will fill in 20 units per site. Any advice here?
Thanks for this information. So if I understand right, if you go to 39 spins or more for 7th pattern to come then if the previous two remaining in the pattern comes up, you will attempt upto 4 times using a Marty of 1-2-4-8 for that 7th pattern to come through before you bet against 8tb pattern.

Two questions. You win in the 7th pattern, do you still play for 8th pattern? If there are two ECs qualifying for 7th pattern do you play both?
But what do you suggest.  Do I ignore that game and look for another game or do I play both?

Two more questions. Sorry there are lot of questions, but I really want to replicate your success. Everyone only gives clues and you seem to be a nice person helping people out here.

If during tracking to get to the 8th pattern, do you restart the game or ignore the zero. If during playing against the 8th pattern, do you cover the zero? If so, do you cover in all three bets or only the third bet. How many units do you use to cover zero.

Thanks a lot sentinel.

You know i just had this thought TS. for you to truly replicate my supposed unique incredible success. Wouldnt it be PERFECT. for you to know exactly when Im on the site and to bet simultaneously WITH ME. So the results I get you would get too. Then you would soon realize I speak the truth. If say we just played 3 or 4 games a day. But always played at least that EARLY GAME AT THE SAME TIME. We could swap mobile numbers then each morning i would txt or call you. To let you know im online at Ladbrokes. Then you would log on. And I would tell you exactly what number i was starting from.

At least for that first game TS. As the weeks rolled by. Your suspicion and doubt would start to recede. As when i say i got a streak of 20 plus days. You would have a streak of 20 plus days too. What do you say to that suggestion?? Okay I Would suggest you have 40 units per site. So these sites all have a minimum bet of 50p so you should be okay with 20 per site.

Yes I will ALWAYS bet on the final 8th pattern. M7 as I call it MAGNIFICENT 7. Is simply a system within a system. A nice little bonus bet.

Although i have a delicious suspicion. M7 may turn out to be far greater than PB in the long run. Time will tell.

During tracking I ignore zeros like they never happened. In betting I will cover the zero on the third step ONLY if im pushed that far. I had two wins of that nature recently. So heres how i stake if pushed all the way.

5-10-22--ZERO=2.

See I treat the green goblin as a little bonus jackot win. Should it land. If Zero hits on the first two steps. I Take the loss and carry on with the prog. As if the zero was the opposite of what Im betting for.

[RouletteGhost]

This thread is falling into the same trap all the others do

People that don’t like it or claim to have bad results start dismantling the integrity of the thread

I kindly ask that if you do not like the method or if it doesn’t work for you then no need to post it here in the thread anymore

Let’s keep it for those playing it in the real world without a bot.

[sentinel3]

This thread is falling into the same trap all the others do

People that don’t like it or claim to have bad results start dismantling the integrity of the thread

I kindly ask that if you do not like the method or if it doesn’t work for you then no need to post it here in the thread anymore

Let’s keep it for those playing it in the real world without a bot.

Agree RG...

[Tinsoldiers]

Your suspicion and doubt would start to recede

I don’t have any suspicion mate, I just want to play it out, so that I can also earn some money. However I don’t want to play it the wrong way and then realise I have lost a lot. Thanks for your advice on the bankroll.  Casinos, here I come.

[Tinsoldiers]

People that don’t like it or claim to have bad results start dismantling the integrity of the thread

I have a solution for that. Sentinel is having an incredible run. So it is apt that we all join in and play exactly as he says. If some one says no, then better they prove their case before saying no. 

[cht]

There's no proof good enough in online environment.

For plays at b&m casino,  there's no possible proof.

People who make claims of winning is frowned upon,  automatically branded as liars and scammers. Or milder version of a rookie screaming his aha find.

Worse accusations of baiting if the system is not shared publicly.

These things we do among fellow punters on a gambling forum. 

Have you wonder why all these typical abuse ?

We either believe the claim or we don't.
We are not stupid.
We are mature enough not to be lured by marketers and/or scammers.
If you so stupidly part your money with internet strangers,  too bad you pay the price for your own folly.
It's normal to be a loser in gambling.
Never be a sucker.

If it didn't work for you,  too bad.
Catch is it will cost you to find out if it will work for you, it's not free.
If it looks like it won't work for you,  why try ?
Never try in gambling.
You will surely lose 100%.
I repeat - if you try in gambling you will surely lose 100%.
If you itch for a bet,  play fun money.
If you need money to pay your bills,  get a job.

I'm a straight talker. Older than JL.

[Tinsoldiers]

Take it easy mate.    All is well. 

[RouletteGhost]

PB on craps? Pass don’t pass?

Bubble craps. Hmmmm

[DoctorSudoku]

I expected Kane to put one behind the net. Mkhitaran - Aubameyang did not deliver the goals today. 

Watch Citey lose to Leicester later. 

0 for 2 today.

Betting against this Citeh team at the Emptyhad is a flat out irrational decision.

As I said before, just stick to roulette predictions.

Or that Clan Des Obeaux thing.   

[DoctorSudoku]

PB on craps? Pass don’t pass?

Bubble craps. Hmmmm

Playing PB at bubble craps would be more much doable compared to table craps.

Two reasons:
1. Table craps does not provide electronic boards (unlike roulette and baccarat). So when you join there is no ready-made "history" of decisions to aid you with your tracking. You have to start tracking the decisions yourself from the very first Pass vs Don't Pass decision.

2. Because of the above, you will have to wait on average about 35 to 45 decisions before you get your first trigger. That is a lot of time waiting -- and tracking. And if it is a busy table, people are going to ask you to move aside (unless, of course, you are playing some other method at the same time that you are doing your tracking).

So bubble craps is the only practical option if we want to employ the PB method to Pass vs Don't Pass.

The problem is that these bubble craps machines are still not very common in US casinos (at least the ones that I have access to or visited).   
   

[RouletteGhost]

Agreed on that. Bubble craps it is

Plenty of that here on Long Island and metro NY since dealers are banned.

[Ricky]

For plays at b&m casino,  there's no possible proof.

Hi CHT
I have an idea that I think will help members of this forum in their own endeavour to use the knowledge freely shared here for their own advantage.  We can all use guidance from those living the life making profits from the casino. When I am at a casino trying to use one or more of these systems to my advantage, sometimes I will fall into the gamblers trap and make irrational decisions. I get onto a losing streak and try chasing losses. I forget about money management and end the night thinking to myself why did I just lose $1K when I should have stopped at $200. I end up kicking myself for the rest of the week. So this forum is helping me stay level headed and I have a personal challenge to stop Gambling and start "investing" my money.
So I have set myself a challenge that I can grow a bankroll of $200 into a substantial one where I can withstand the odd loss without destroying my entire bankroll. So far I am at $560 after 1 week using PB and MV5 and 7 visits to my local  casino. I have 2 days where I left the casino in the red. Fortunately, this was in the first couple of days when I was dry running the systems and betting low amounts for a loss of $9 and $4 respectively. The other visits all ended in profit. The amounts were relatively small compared to what some may be aiming for but JL described small profit well and I keep remembering these words "From acorns huge Oak Trees grow". Patience is the key. Yesterday I spent 4 hours at the casino and came up $23. These words kept ringing in my mind when I decided to leave rather than getting into the Gamblers habits of trying to get that one last win to leave a "BIG" winner and in the process blowing the bankroll.

So I will contribute to this forum with a personal diary of my trips to the casino. I will try to post some video of a session playing the systems showing the decisions I am making as it happens. I guess for those playing online could do the same recording their online sessions.
If this is something others feel will be helpful maybe we can setup another thread so as not to clog up this discussion. Your thoughts are welcome on how best we can help each other on our journey to profiting from these systems rather than just discussing and debating the merits of them.
In summary, I think we need to look at these systems as one component to a successful gambling career or second income:
1. A sound method like PB or MV5 and other good systems mentioned on this forum
2. Smart MM and progressions. This includes protecting profits and more importantly setting stop losses or BREAKS on losing streaks,
3. Above all, Discipline and Patience. DO NOT look for quick profits. But grow your bankroll slowly.
All the above make up the Holy Grail of winning roulette or any other game of chance. There is no system you can buy that is going to bypass all the above. YOU need to be part of the System. The method you deploy is just part of the tools you use to profit. The most important tool is your brain.

Having said that, I for one am trying to live up to these standards. This is part of my journey. We all need each other to help us keep on track and focused, and not stray back on the path of the Gambler lurking inside us.

PS. Sentinel recommended the Book "Roulette Playing to Win" by Brett Morton.
link:s://books.google.com.au/books?id=Opj0CQAAQBAJ&pg=PA81&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
I had a quick look at it in the above link and will purchase a copy. I am sure it will provide a wealth of information from one's experience of this endeavour. You may find it useful also.

Regards,
Ricky

[sentinel3]

Hi CHT
I have an idea that I think will help members of this forum in their own endeavour to use the knowledge freely shared here for their own advantage.  We can all use guidance from those living the life making profits from the casino. When I am at a casino trying to use one or more of these systems to my advantage, sometimes I will fall into the gamblers trap and make irrational decisions. I get onto a losing streak and try chasing losses. I forget about money management and end the night thinking to myself why did I just lose $1K when I should have stopped at $200. I end up kicking myself for the rest of the week. So this forum is helping me stay level headed and I have a personal challenge to stop Gambling and start "investing" my money.
So I have set myself a challenge that I can grow a bankroll of $200 into a substantial one where I can withstand the odd loss without destroying my entire bankroll. So far I am at $560 after 1 week using PB and MV5 and 7 visits to my local  casino. I have 2 days where I left the casino in the red. Fortunately, this was in the first couple of days when I was dry running the systems and betting low amounts for a loss of $9 and $4 respectively. The other visits all ended in profit. The amounts were relatively small compared to what some may be aiming for but JL described small profit well and I keep remembering these words "From acorns huge Oak Trees grow". Patience is the key. Yesterday I spent 4 hours at the casino and came up $23. These words kept ringing in my mind when I decided to leave rather than getting into the Gamblers habits of trying to get that one last win to leave a "BIG" winner and in the process blowing the bankroll.

So I will contribute to this forum with a personal diary of my trips to the casino. I will try to post some video of a session playing the systems showing the decisions I am making as it happens. I guess for those playing online could do the same recording their online sessions.
If this is something others feel will be helpful maybe we can setup another thread so as not to clog up this discussion. Your thoughts are welcome on how best we can help each other on our journey to profiting from these systems rather than just discussing and debating the merits of them.
In summary, I think we need to look at these systems as one component to a successful gambling career or second income:
1. A sound method like PB or MV5 and other good systems mentioned on this forum
2. Smart MM and progressions. This includes protecting profits and more importantly setting stop losses or BREAKS on losing streaks,
3. Above all, Discipline and Patience. DO NOT look for quick profits. But grow your bankroll slowly.
All the above make up the Holy Grail of winning roulette or any other game of chance. There is no system you can buy that is going to bypass all the above. YOU need to be part of the System. The method you deploy is just part of the tools you use to profit. The most important tool is your brain.

Having said that, I for one am trying to live up to these standards. This is part of my journey. We all need each other to help us keep on track and focused, and not stray back on the path of the Gambler lurking inside us.

PS. Sentinel recommended the Book "Roulette Playing to Win" by Brett Morton.
link:s://books.google.com.au/books?id=Opj0CQAAQBAJ&pg=PA81&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
I had a quick look at it in the above link and will purchase a copy. I am sure it will provide a wealth of information from one's experience of this endeavour. You may find it useful also.

Regards,
Ricky

Very good post Ricky. Very good...