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sentinel3

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 19, 07:06 PM 2018
How will you become millionaire playing a system that's a grinder?

Just curious
The size of the chips im grinding. If you ALWAYS make at least 100 units of profit a month. And those units are eventiually worth â,¬500--â,¬1000. You wont take long to pass a million..As I said the problem isnt the system. PBR is a winner for alltime. Its finding places that will allow you to take a fortune off of them.

Certainly no online casino is going to allow you to even take 20k off them.Thats the problem. Thats why when I reach $500 to $1000 level in 2020. Im going to have to go to a place that doesnt mess up their panties. When someone wins 5 to 10k in an evening...

Andre Chass

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 20, 12:42 AM 2018
The size of the chips im grinding. If you ALWAYS make at least 100 units of profit a month. And those units are eventiually worth â,¬500--â,¬1000. You wont take long to pass a million..As I said the problem isnt the system. PBR is a winner for alltime. Its finding places that will allow you to take a fortune off of them.

Certainly no online casino is going to allow you to even take 20k off them.Thats the problem. Thats why when I reach $500 to $1000 level in 2020. Im going to have to go to a place that doesnt mess up their panties. When someone wins 5 to 10k in an evening...

I understand.

Why don't you play n a real casino?

You live in London, right?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 19, 07:31 AM 2018
Hi bikemotorman,

It is same, just like with Red and Black on roulette  - wait for the missing pattern and bet against it, I think.

P=Player
B=Banker
Ignore any TIES

PPP       
BBB â—™     
PPB  â—™     
BPP  â—™     
PBB â—™     
BBP  â—™     
BPB  â—™     
PBP  â—™     

Example: The ummarked pattern above is the missing one yet to occur; so now bet against PPP happening. Stop at a winner.

Regards,
A.

Now I see how to use PB on baccarat.

I don't know what to do when tie occurs.

Is baccarat 50/50?

Right now I'm trying to learn the game.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: bikemotorman on Feb 19, 11:14 PM 2018
Well I am still tired after today it was about three hours of rolling the dice on my little craps table and I did win but man I must have rolled about 150 times or more LOL.
I kept saying come on where is my time to test the method but I did get it finally.
At the casino, I would have been going nuts but at least the dealers would have been bringing the dice back to me instead of me walking back and forth 150 times to get them, the method has not let me down once so far I think I have played fifteen games so far and all are winners.

Now I consider a winner to be LLW OR LWL OR WWW or WLL most times I stop at a W and start tracking again.
I do use a progression, just experimenting guys but I think it is a very solid method but over the last month and at least 5000 rolls of the dice I have some understanding of the odds of pass and dont pass.
I have never seen more than 7 passes or 7 don't pass.

The Odds of a shooter making

8 passes in a row            250 to 1
9 passes in a row            500 to 1
10 passes in a row            1000 to 1


Stuart


Well, streaks longer than 7 do happen for both the P and the DP.

But, yes, compared to baccarat and roulette, the 7-plus streaks in craps tend to be less frequent.

Alternately, you can say that craps is much more choppy than baccarat or roulette.

How to exploit this greater choppiness of craps for making profits is, of course, a whole different discussion topic worthy of an entire forum by itself.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: bikemotorman on Feb 19, 11:14 PM 2018

Now I consider a winner to be LLW OR LWL OR WWW or WLL most times I stop at a W and start tracking again.

Stuart

I think you are playing this game somewhat differently from the rest of us. A winner is as soon as you get a W -- so W, LW, and LLW are all winners (assuming you are using a negative progression).

But WLL or  LWL  are not winners if you keep playing beyond the first W that appears. Maybe I misunderstood you, but I am going by what you wrote in the above quote.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Ricky

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 20, 12:42 AM 2018Certainly no online casino is going to allow you to even take 20k off them.Thats the problem. Thats why when I reach $500 to $1000 level in 2020. Im going to have to go to a place that doesnt mess up their panties. When someone wins 5 to 10k in an evening...
Hi Sentinel,
I am amazed at my B&M Casino I play on the electronic tables and the min/max bet is $1/$10,000 for Roulette, Baccarat and SicBo. I would love for you to come over here and place that $500-$1000 bet using the system and take them for $2,000 playing just 4 games. Risk : 500,1000,2000=$3,500

I personally have put some large bets on these tables. Got up to $400 at one stage. Unfortunately, lost it and wiped out two hours of profits I had accumulated playing one of my systems. Since then been very gun shy. But once my fighting fund has reached the $10K mark I will confidently be back there placing those $250-$500 bets.
Just got back from my BM casino today for another $23 win and fighting fund is now $594. Played PB on SicBo and won $10 so will start keeping track of how many wins I can achieve on this game playing 1 session a visit.

Cheers,
Ricky

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 20, 01:45 AM 2018
Now I see how to use PB on baccarat.

I don't know what to do when tie occurs.

Is baccarat 50/50?

Right now I'm trying to learn the game.

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 19, 11:49 PM 2018Can someone explain to me how to play Baccarat in a simple and straight way? Is this game really more lucrative than roulette? How do I use The PB system in Baccarat?

I'd like to give it a try and get hints
Hi Andre,
I played two games today and won them both. Used the attached tracker to track two tables simultaneously.
Great thing about Baccarat is Tie gets your money back but the Banker has a small 5c in the dollar cost if you win on it so its really 1.95:1. But it is the most even game out there. And as Atlantis said a little early the cards are FIXED for the whole show. Due to the rules the cards will get dealt exactly as the rules state. There is no variance to randomness while you are playing. At the Online Casino I play at I was amazed to see the cards are actually in an open show and are hand shuffled. The dealers play ALL cards from start to finish so its not like BJ where they only have 50% penetration of the deck before reshuffling.
So this got me thinking that PB may in the long run be a great strategy for this game on Online casinos. There is no potential for manipulation and you are only dealing with variance  from the initial shuffle. Once the dealer starts that's it. If BP is able to dodge randomness for that show it has not chance of catching up and suddenly deal that last pattern right after the 7th pattern.
All I need now is Bacarrat Xtreme BOT to automate my play. :)

Cheers,
Ricky,

sentinel3

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 20, 07:36 AM 2018
Hi Sentinel,
I am amazed at my B&M Casino I play on the electronic tables and the min/max bet is $1/$10,000 for Roulette, Baccarat and SicBo. I would love for you to come over here and place that $500-$1000 bet using the system and take them for $2,000 playing just 4 games. Risk : 500,1000,2000=$3,500

I personally have put some large bets on these tables. Got up to $400 at one stage. Unfortunately, lost it and wiped out two hours of profits I had accumulated playing one of my systems. Since then been very gun shy. But once my fighting fund has reached the $10K mark I will confidently be back there placing those $250-$500 bets.
Just got back from my BM casino today for another $23 win and fighting fund is now $594. Played PB on SicBo and won $10 so will start keeping track of how many wins I can achieve on this game playing 1 session a visit.

Cheers,
Ricky
Yes Ricky a walk in casino will let you take serious money before they start panicking. Online Casinos are less tolerant. Thats why when im at the level Where my base bet is â,¬500. Im going to have to put on a suit more often.

I would love to visit Australia. So that could indeed be on the cards in 2020. A john legend world tour. Of the major casino spots. Making it known that roulette can be systematically beaten by a mechanical system.

When that truly sinks in there wont be the same attitude towards systems as there is at this time.

The only way to do it is take serious money off these people. Thats the only thing that will draw attention.

Ricky

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 20, 08:04 AM 2018
I played two games today and won them both. Used the attached tracker to track two tables simultaneously.

Cheers,
Ricky,
This tracker for Baccarat is working a treat. Just finished my 6th game. Played two simultaneously. Won all 6. Now I'm 6-0. Sentinel I'm going to try and get to the record 53-0 playing 2 games a day of Bacarrat and see if I can dodge randomness for that long. At $10 a win that will be another $500 to the fighting fund
Cheers,
Ricky

Ricky

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 19, 01:10 PM 2018

For any even chance betting method, baccarat is usually the best game where you can apply that method.

Remember, roulette has the 0/00 and craps has the bar number (either the 12 or the 2) to make things difficult for your bank roll.

Baccarat has the Tie, but it does NOT have any effect on your B / P bet.

So if you browse through this forum or any other roulette forum and you come across any even chance betting method that interests you, seriously think of applying it to baccarat first before you apply it to craps or roulette.
In terms of Patience, if PB holds up at the same or better strike rate as Roulette, I think it is a quicker game to play the system. Here are my results so far on Baccarat
Game    Hands to Last Pattern    Last Pattern  Result
1             45                                         PPB              W
2            27                                          BBP              LLW         
3             36                                         PPP              W
4             48                                         BPP             W
5             27                                         BBP              LW
6             60                                         BPB              W

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 20, 08:04 AM 2018
Hi Andre,
I played two games today and won them both. Used the attached tracker to track two tables simultaneously.
Great thing about Baccarat is Tie gets your money back but the Banker has a small 5c in the dollar cost if you win on it so its really 1.95:1. But it is the most even game out there. And as Atlantis said a little early the cards are FIXED for the whole show. Due to the rules the cards will get dealt exactly as the rules state. There is no variance to randomness while you are playing. At the Online Casino I play at I was amazed to see the cards are actually in an open show and are hand shuffled. The dealers play ALL cards from start to finish so its not like BJ where they only have 50% penetration of the deck before reshuffling.
So this got me thinking that PB may in the long run be a great strategy for this game on Online casinos. There is no potential for manipulation and you are only dealing with variance  from the initial shuffle. Once the dealer starts that's it. If BP is able to dodge randomness for that show it has not chance of catching up and suddenly deal that last pattern right after the 7th pattern.
All I need now is Bacarrat Xtreme BOT to automate my play. :)

Cheers,
Ricky,

Hi Ricky

I'm trying to understand how to use PB in baccarat.

Do you use the original PB system betting against the 8st pattern to form?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 20, 08:05 AM 2018
Yes Ricky a walk in casino will let you take serious money before they start panicking. Online Casinos are less tolerant. Thats why when im at the level Where my base bet is â,¬500. Im going to have to put on a suit more often.

I would love to visit Australia. So that could indeed be on the cards in 2020. A john legend world tour. Of the major casino spots. Making it known that roulette can be systematically beaten by a mechanical system.

When that truly sinks in there wont be the same attitude towards systems as there is at this time.

The only way to do it is take serious money off these people. Thats the only thing that will draw attention.

Why don't you play in a real casino?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

RouletteGhost

I have organic baccarat

Real cards with electronic arm

May be perfect for this Ricky
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

sentinel3

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 20, 10:35 AM 2018
Why don't you play in a real casino?
I have done. But I like the idea of making money while relaxing on the sofa. REAL CASINOS. Have two drawbacks. They are full of people. And the times between spins ARE SLOW. Online you get two spins a minute on average. In a casino 1 spin every 3 to 5 minutes.

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 20, 10:32 AM 2018Hi Ricky

I'm trying to understand how to use PB in baccarat.

Do you use the original PB system betting against the 8st pattern to form?
Yes I do. If you look at the spreadsheet you will notice a column called "Act". You start by clearing all the results and notice the tracker on top sets count of patterns to 0. As the results (P/B) come in from the game you enter them. You will then notice the pattern of 3 forming. So once all patterns come out you will be left with the 8th Pattern. Its this pattern that you bet AGAINST. So if last pattern was PBP you would bet BPB with a 1-2-4 progression. The only way to lose is for the next three games to result the same as the last pattern. In this case it would need to be PBP.

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