*PATTERN BREAKER*

[DoctorSudoku]

Winner, it may be an educated guessing game but is not all in business to some extent an educated guess??
How about the stock market???
How about livestock or farming?
How about going on a date with a young lady lol???
How about politics???

Baccarat is a totally random, non-dependant, negative expectancy game of chance.  Which means the casino knows over the long haul they have the mathematical advantage over the player. 

Theoretically, if a player gambles continuously for weeks, months, and years, his bankroll is destined to ruin by the casino’s build in win advantage or “vigorish.” 

However, as an intelligent, knowledgeable, and disciplined player, things are not as forbidding as the mathematicians would lead one to believe. 

First, the player will not be playing continuously 24 hours per day every day.  He will limit his time and capital exposure, then use his methods to maximize his chance to capture a profitable trend in the ebb and flow of Baccarat decisions.  Always, the player will employ smart money management to conserve and protect his bankroll against adverse trends in the game.  Realistically, the player should experience many trips to the casino with profitable results.

Treat your play as a business and remember the more educated your guesses become the more profit is more likely to come.

Stuart

Good post -- the highlighted parts have a couple of good ideas that have been mentioned before many times in this thread, but needs reiterating periodically.

Gave your post a plus rating (which it thoroughly deserves).      

[Andre Chass]

Good post -- the highlighted parts have a couple of good ideas that have been mentioned before many times in this thread, but needs reiterating periodically.

Gave your post a plus rating (which it thoroughly deserves).      

You're absolutely right Doc

Today 6 games played 6 games won.

Progression 15, 15, 45
Profit $90

I'm betting in a safe way.
Ex:
BPP BPP B and I start betting against it
BBP

It could be a long waiting but the wait is worth it.

[Andre Chass]

133--6

[cht]

133--6

Man with the midas touch on your way to the magic millions as usual. 

[footy73]

Ok.........results from 36 baccarat shoes = sessions (played 3-6 sessions per day)

Sorry this post will be long and detailed. I have discovered some rather interesting facts, some were surprise and some were exactly what I have expected.

I have tested few ways of play discussed in this topic : MV (or matrix) , 4,5,6 and 7 , I also played original PB and I have played the way Andre play's and I called that system Andre (hehe) , but I did play it bit differently , so I can test some of my theories too .

In this post I will provide results from all the games but Andre one...that one will be in next post because it is most detailed and there are few things to discuss

Results for all matrix plays were in my case disaster , even MV7  ....so no point in posting those.

As for original PB here are results from 36 shoes/sessions :

Original 1,2,4 progression used for testing purposes :

W/L  ratio         :  33 / 8
Total units        :  -23

Winning hits on each step :

Step 1    =   W      =   21
Step 2    =  LW     =   10
Step 3    =  LLW   =    2

In my case evidently PB was a losing system, although I believe in the structure of it and respect JL and everyone who works on it. Pretty much same results I had on roulette playing all 3 E/C's  .

BUT...from what I see above , if we use different progression, like 1,2 and play only first 2 steps we could of be in winning waters. Of course many of you could have different results than I am having. For example JL is successful for years . So we can not use my results to come to any conclusion , but just use them as addition to other tests .

[footy73]

Now results, facts and info from playing " Andre" system (I know it's not exactly how Andre plays it but that man deserves this to be named after him lol)  :

FOR TESTING PURPOSES I have decided to go " blind" into games and play all combinations of 3 results and used original 1,2,4 progression.
@Andre....I was going to tell you earlier, but I am doing it now....according to your results posted before and my tests progression 1,2,3 would be better of as we get many winning hits on second bet. I know it is one more unit to lose if there is a loss but quite a few more to win instead of getting even , as we have more winnings.
Before I post results I have to say that I decided to play against BBB and PPP as well. reason for that is...yes we try to avoid long streaks , and although they MUST happen, they do not happen as often and they rarely go over 8 - 9 in a row, and if it happens it is 1 loss compare to few wins .

Results 36 shoes = sessions (3 - 6 per day) :

WIN / LOSS RATIO               :       90/13
Total score in units                :         - 2                This was bit of a shock for me

Total winning hits on each bet :

Winning hit on first bet                  =    W      =    67
Winning hit on Second bet            =  LW      =    24
Winning hit on third bet                 =  LLW    =   5

This is why I think progression 1,2,3 would be better. Or some of you will say perhaps skipping step 3 wouldn't be bad either?

And now WIN/LOSS ratio results for each pattern.......sit down...there are some surprises :

PPB,PPB                                   =    11 /  0
BBB,BBB                                   =    9   /  0
PBP,PBP                                    =    13/   1
BPP, BPP                                   =    21/    2
PBB,PBB                                   =    10 /   2
BPB,BPB                                   =      6  /  2
PPP, PPP                                   =     11 / 3
BBP, BBP                                  =      9   / 3

As we can see we have most wins from BPP and PBP and quite a few wins from PPP and BBB.  PBP and BPB repeating is not bad because it doesn't form perfect zig zag like PBPBPBPB......

Now , something that could be the MOST IMPORTANT fact......I have checked all losses and found that every single loss apart from 1 was NOT double....which means if we had PBB, PBB and we lost our 3 bets on next PBB, after that, one of next 3 bets would be winning one and recovery . So we could work out on recovery thing , immediately after loss , I don't know something like 2,4,8, or 4,8,12 , but we also have to keep in mind that people like Andre, Ricky and myself do play with bigger units not $1 units or less.

I hope this helps guys.

I am tired so if I have made some mistake or said something silly be gentle

[cht]

Now results, facts and info from playing " Andre" system (I know it's not exactly how Andre plays it but that man deserves this to be named after him lol)  :

FOR TESTING PURPOSES I have decided to go " blind" into games and play all combinations of 3 results and used original 1,2,4 progression.
@Andre....I was going to tell you earlier, but I am doing it now....according to your results posted before and my tests progression 1,2,3 would be better of as we get many winning hits on second bet.

I posted that earlier. 

I know it is one more unit to lose if there is a loss but quite a few more to win instead of getting even , as we have more winnings.
Before I post results I have to say that I decided to play against BBB and PPP as well. reason for that is...yes we try to avoid long streaks , and although they MUST happen, they do not happen as often and they rarely go over 8 - 9 in a row, and if it happens it is 1 loss compare to few wins .

Results 36 shoes = sessions (3 - 6 per day) :

WIN / LOSS RATIO               :       90/13
Total score in units                :         - 2                This was bit of a shock for me

I posted that earlier. 

Total winning hits on each bet :

Winning hit on first bet                  =    W      =    67
Winning hit on Second bet            =  LW      =    24
Winning hit on third bet                 =  LLW    =   5

This is why I think progression 1,2,3 would be better. Or some of you will say perhaps skipping step 3 wouldn't be bad either?

And now WIN/LOSS ratio results for each pattern.......sit down...there are some surprises :

PPB,PPB                                   =    11 /  0
BBB,BBB                                   =    9   /  0
PBP,PBP                                    =    13/   1
BPP, BPP                                   =    21/    2
PBB,PBB                                   =    10 /   2
BPB,BPB                                   =      6  /  2
PPP, PPP                                   =     11 / 3
BBP, BBP                                  =      9   / 3

As we can see we have most wins from BPP and PBP and quite a few wins from PPP and BBB.

Combined : 20/3 is still a losing bet.

  PBP and BPB repeating is not bad because it doesn't form perfect zig zag like PBPBPBPB......

Now , something that could be the MOST IMPORTANT fact......I have checked all losses and found that every single loss apart from 1 was NOT double....which means if we had PBB, PBB and we lost our 3 bets on next PBB, after that, one of next 3 bets would be winning one and recovery . So we could work out on recovery thing , immediately after loss , I don't know something like 2,4,8, or 4,8,12 ,

Don't try this with roulette, you will lose big time.

but we also have to keep in mind that people like Andre, Ricky and myself do play with bigger units not $1 units or less.

I hope this helps guys.

I am tired so if I have made some mistake or said something silly be gentle

[footy73]

@CHT 

Hehe...it's good that our discoveries match and confirm

[footy73]

Andre,

I hope your reaction has nothing to do with my posts?? !!  I am loving what you are doing !

[footy73]

What the f****?

You are having a go at someone who supports you and who did what you asked for......Now that I see what kind of person you are I regret spending any second reading and liking your posts and supporting you .......Mate...you can go and...you know what.......

[footy73]

Yes Steve...you should ban any rude as*&^

[footy73]

Seriously....you are going to go THAT low.....?    It just shows what kind of person you are ....I am not going to respond to you anymore

[Andre Chass]

I want to apologize to all members of this forum about my over reacting. I'm just tired of amateur players saying bullshit.

I play for a a living... Don't f*** kidding me.

Sorry guys

[DoctorSudoku]

I want to apologize to all members of this forum about my over reacting. I'm just tired of amateur players saying bullshit.

I play for a a living... Don't f*** kidding me.

Sorry guys

Andre,
Just cool it, man. You get too  emotionally affected by what others say.

There will always be naysayers in forums, like this one.

Many of them just want to run computer simulations. Some of them are professional programmers or are simply good at programming - so for them, writing programs and running simulations is something they enjoy. They get pleasure from doing so. Just let them do it.

What should matter  -- to you -- is what is happening with your own playing.

Are you winning or not?

As long as you are, just keep playing -- and winning !

Does anything else matter?

Please keep us updated with your results.

[footy73]

@Dr Sudoku

Just for the record I am not naysayer , if you read my posts again you will hopefully notice that I DO support and like the way Andre plays , and when he asked all of us to post results that is what I did , with the hope we all can improve and get even better results.
I have shown nothing but friendly manner and respect.
Another thing...I wasn't doing any testing or programming, I wouldn't have idea how to make a program , neither I was using mathematics.
I was trying to work together with you guys on Andre's way of playing and I still like the way he does it. I am not sure how anyone can take my posts as negative towards what we do . Perhaps because English is not my first language?
Also.....What I don't appreciate is someone  talking to me that way.......calling me a girl , mentioning dolls , calling me novice and so on.....He doesn't know anything about me , and believe me he would be surprised. You can not judge someone just like that and be rude about it.

At the end of the day....EVEN IF I didn't agree with him and support what he does (Which I DO) it would of be polite to accept my opinion and agree to disagree , not acting like some maniac.

I went through 2 wars , lost most of my family , was shot 4 times and yet I am polite and calm. 
And once again I do like what Andre does in HIS way , and I do the same, and I believe he will actually succeed with his plan, but as a person he lost my respect , because of his behavior