*PATTERN BREAKER*

[RouletteGhost]

He not only got it wrong -- but he got it wrong INTENTIONALLY.

Seen that before

[RouletteGhost]

Excited to try on craps bubble machine.

Soon.

(Due to lack of betting opportunities I will be using larger units, play for a statistically insignificant number of spins to avoid the house edge)

[RouletteGhost]

How’s the baccarat results coming along?

[DoctorSudoku]

I am loving what I see here....regardless of level of success of systems we work on, believers and naysayers....one thing I see and am happy about is that there is a team work and people with experiences and ideas , who are happy to share and are not selfish .   
Some people agree , some people disagree , but I personally am hungry for experience and knowledge and read with interest every post from people like Sentinel, Dr Sudoku, Andre, Ricky, CHT and few others . So well done guys, perhaps this is the point of us having a chance to use this forum (Thanks Steve) .


@Andre and Ricky ....I see you guys are having similar plan for next 12 months or so...it is like business plan. I started doing that 2 years ago and payed someone to make me excel sheet for 12 months (Each month separately) . There is an option to enter your bankroll balance on daily basis and on the top there is an option for you to put 3 different daily target  goals (2.5 %, 5 % and 10% ) and it also gives you the sum you have to reach that day and expected sum for the end of the month . It just speeds up calculations for you and it gives you nice overview of your results and goals. It was nice watching my balance going from 25 units on 1st of January , to 495 units on 31st.

So if any of you guys are interested in having it I am happy to  share with you . Just message me and let me know . I am not sure if I can attach it in message but do let me know if that is available option


@Ricky......as you know I am a fan of your work and am keen to see how you go with 1,2. Sentinel is starting to use it and Dr Sudoku is already successful with it, so there is something that is working


@Andre....I see you went level up with your base bet which is telling me you are still doing well. Bloody good job.  Yes 4 patterns in the row happen very rarely and I saw it only twice in last 3 months of playing. Strange thing is that both times that happened was very same pattern. Another thing you would like is...yesterday I got bit bored and after finishing baccarat sessions I decided to play PB on roulette and while waiting for that I've played your way and guess what.....7 wins , 3 bet opportunities on all 3 EC's at the same time as well .

I would also like to add that I am NOT using any recovery progression at the present moment.

So it is 1 2 continuously for each series, regardless of whether I won or lost the previous series.

The way JL is playing it, he uses a recovery progression by increasing the amounts of the subsequent bets (ex. 1 2, then 2 4, etc.).

I do NOT use any such recovery progressions because it is akin to using a long negative progression -- and I am leery of using a long negative progression to recoup losses.

[DoctorSudoku]

How’s the baccarat results coming along?

I am using a 1 2 progression for only the first two spins (I am skipping the third spin and so if I lose the first two bets, I have a 3 unit loss -- which is acceptable to me).

My roulette strike rate (betting against the 8th pattern) is about 12 - 1 -- but I think it might fall a bit as I play more.

[DoctorSudoku]

And my baccarat strike rate using the 1 2 progression is 10 - 1.

It is surprising compared to my roulette strike rate -- you would expect the opposite, for obvious reasons.

[Roulettebeater]

Andre Chass

We are missing you!

Come back

[daveylibra]

Hi Andre

Hope all is well with you.
If any stockbroker could achieve 1% a day he would be one rich guy!
Just work out what that is, compounded over a year...
Anyway, just wondered why you have changed tactics when the original method was going so well.

also you said-

"BPP BPP BP and I start betting.
A pattern to form for four times is a very rare event n Baccarat.
But this can be a long wait."

Surely we should wait for BPP BPP BPP and then bet?

[bikemotorman]

Hi Stuart, I posted a link to his video in this thread. Yes, he is trying to profit from selling his Baccarat TKO system. I have watched his videos and he has good ideas. What I like from his approach is his FORMULA for betting. that's the video I posted here which I encourage everyone to watch. Look I know he is trying to make money from selling ideas but I say if there is a demand out there for teaching people good on him. I would not pay that amount of money. But I do not think he is ripping anyone off. He is just doing what we are all sharing here for free. Ideas on how to beat the game. I am amazed at how many people do not have a clue about gambling an yet go to the casino and freely give their hard earned cash to these mulitbillion dollar institutions because they have no idea how to play the game or use their brains to bet smart. So for someone to sell their ideas to help people I do not see a problem with that. What I do see a problem is when people try to sell a system they claim will never lose and is the holy grail. And all it is is some martingale system where your risking thousands playing this "infallable" system.

For those who are interested in learning about the FORMULA which is a negative progression system based on D'Alembert and a positive progression system called the "LADDER" check out my post link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.msg191693#msg191693

PS. As I mentioned previously and as others are posting, as well as having a good system in PB what we really need to have a grasp on is maximizing our wins with good MM approach and minimizing our losses with smart progressions. I think the 1-2 progression could be the answer to using PB for the negative progression component. The FORMULA idea could be the answer to the positive progression component where you up your bets when you get on a winning streak. As soon as you have one loss after climbing the ladder, you then get off and start at the base bet again. The way Jay does it is not exactly the formula we can use with PB but I think the idea is there which we can build on in this forum.

Cheers,
Ricky

Ricky this video by Jay Silva is outstanding and it can be used while we wait for our PB tracking triggers.
He really knows what he is talking about when it comes to the basics of Baccarat.
Since I dont know really that much about Baccarat I watched the whold video several times but he really has some good info but there is just know way I would be able to pay him 1000 dollars for his stuff think about it we are all working and testing PB for the good of all of us on this thread.
Just like myself and RG want to use PB on the BUBBLE CRAPS machine to gather some good profits but its to the good of the community.

Here is the video check it out.

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=OxYShQskBOw

[Andre Chass]

Andre Chass

We are missing you!

Come back

Hey my friend

How are things going?

[Andre Chass]

Hi Andre

Hope all is well with you.
If any stockbroker could achieve 1% a day he would be one rich guy!
Just work out what that is, compounded over a year...
Anyway, just wondered why you have changed tactics when the original method was going so well.

also you said-

"BPP BPP BP and I start betting.
A pattern to form for four times is a very rare event n Baccarat.
But this can be a long wait."

Surely we should wait for BPP BPP BPP and then bet?

Hi mate

I did not change anything.

I just wait for two virtual losses.

I wait two pattern to form then I bet against it.

Ex: BPP BPP BP(2virtual losses) and I start betting the 3 steps progression.
BPB

I'm betting hit and run style. Only 3 bets a day. 30, 30, 90

I stopped counting the losses and wins because what interests me is to get the profit of $90 a day.

I'm doing very well and I'm thinking of increasing my bets.

[footy73]

@Dr Sudoku

Got ya...

[Andre Chass]

And my baccarat strike rate using the 1 2 progression is 10 - 1.

It is surprising compared to my roulette strike rate -- you would expect the opposite, for obvious reasons.

Hi doc

My baccarat strike rate is much better than yours.

I use my PB variation and is very hard I get a loss.

I'm using the progression 30, 30, 90 and is working great.
I play only 3 sessions per day because my target is get $90 profit per day.

I think baccarat variance is less than Roulette.

All this time I've been playing I've never seen the BPP or PBB patterns forming four times in a row.

I want to make it clear that I'm only using these two patterns to bet against.

[Ricky]

Hi mate

I did not change anything.

I just wait for two virtual losses.

I wait two pattern to form then I bet against it.

Ex: BPP BPP BP(2virtual losses) and I start betting the 3 steps progression.
BPB

I'm betting hit and run style. Only 3 bets a day. 30, 30, 90

I stopped counting the losses and wins because what interests me is to get the profit of $90 a day.

I'm doing very well and I'm thinking of increasing my bets.

Hi Andre,
let me just confirm how you are using those virtual losses because as I am only playing 1-2 method I am thinking of a similar idea so I do not get disappointed when the third step of the pattern I did not bet actually would have won because it did not repeat a third time.
So are you waiting for BPP BPP and then watch the next two spins. If they start to repeat with BP you then bet BPB?
So you are betting against BPP BPP BPP BP forming (3 times the pattern and then the start of a fourth pattern). You are saying this pattern is rare to repeat 3.5 times. Well that would have covered my 2 losses I experienced yesterday but given I am only doing a 2 step progression I can handle more losses than what you are able to.

But what I was thinking with a two step progression I may do the first step virtual and then bet the last two steps of the 3rd repeat of the pattern so I actually get to see the sequence and if the first step is a virtual loss then my next two bets will test that the full 3 steps were a repeat or not. I would not be disappointed that I did not bet the last step and if I lose then I can really say the Casino got lucky. The only disappointment would be if I missed winning on the 1st step. but I would have not started betting so I can call that a lost opportunity to bet and no big deal.

So my thinking would be wait for BPP BPP B and then bet BB (opposite of PP). So if BPP BPP P comes out I have lost opportunity to win on the first step and do not bet

Cheers,
Ricky.

[DoctorSudoku]

Hi doc


My baccarat strike rate is much better than yours.

I use my PB variation and is very hard I get a loss.

I'm using the progression 30, 30, 90 and is working great.
I play only 3 sessions per day because my target is get $90 profit per day.

I think baccarat variance is less than Roulette.

All this time I've been playing I've never seen the BPP or PBB patterns forming four times in a row.

I want to make it clear that I'm only using these two patterns to bet against.

Andre,
My strike rate is going to be lower than yours for the simple reason that I am using a 1 2 progression.

So anytime I do NOT get a win on those two steps, I record a loss for that series.

However, I lose only 3 units.

And that is easier to recover than if you are down by 5 units (with 1 2 2 or 1 1 3) or 7 units (with 1 2 4) -- in which case your recovery phase would be longer.

So the tradeoff is that my strike rate is lower than yours, but my recovery phase is also shorter (and, possibly, less stressful) than yours.