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[DoctorSudoku]

guys,

have you tested this method flatbetting?

i have found a strong pattern but a bit more complex than this and it's showed good result flatbetting.

It depends how long the pattern is that you are betting for or against.

If it is one or two steps then, yes, flat betting may very well work.

However, for longer patterns of 3 or more decisions (like, say, PBPB), then it is doubtful that it will work flat betting.

Of course, if this pattern-based method that you are alluding is so good that you win most of the time on the first one or two bets, then, yes, flat betting should do the job.

[DoctorSudoku]

Hi

That's the way how I track

red=banker  blue =player

The snapshot of the electronic board that you posted  is also the most common way that most casinos here in the US display the Banker or Player decisions. And we can then easily transfer those B/P decisions to our paper records for our own tracking, if we want to.

[cht]

The snapshot of the electronic board that you posted  is also the most common way that most casinos here in the US display the Banker or Player decisions. And we can then easily transfer those B/P decisions to our paper records for our own tracking, if we want to.

Andre doesn't transfer those B/P results onto his paper record, he simply look at the big road - that's why he can track many shoes at one go. He bets for the highway if you understand what that means - I believe he has one more condition.

[iar000]

what BPP or PBB means .....

can you make an example please how to play

thank you

[DoctorSudoku]

Andre doesn't transfer those B/P results onto his paper record, he simply look at the big road - that's why he can track many shoes at one go. He bets for the highway if you understand what that means - I believe he has one more condition.

Yes, I know he doesn't do paper tracking. I was making the comment to note that the electronic displays that he encounters in his online casinos are pretty similar to what we get here in the US.

To cater to Asian players, many casinos offer additional displays also. I don't find those additional ones  particularly useful for the type of tracking I do for my pattern-based bet selection methods.

[DoctorSudoku]

what BPP or PBB means .....

can you make an example please how to play

thank you

The symbols are for Baccarat decisions:

B=Banker and P= Player (T is for the Tie outcome).

As to how to play, the main methods (and their respective variants)  have been described many times over in this thread (read the last 15 or 20 pages and you will get a good idea).

[Andre Chass]

Andre doesn't transfer those B/P results onto his paper record, he simply look at the big road - that's why he can track many shoes at one go. He bets for the highway if you understand what that means - I believe he has one more condition.

Hi CHT

You're right. I simple look at the big road to track six shoes at the same time. I don't use paper record. When I see the trigger forming I enter the table.
No I don't have one more condition.

[Ricky]

he price is ALWAYS two qualities few possess.

Hi Sentinel,
thanks to you and others on this forum I am working on these two attributes now that I have a sound system to use. I naturally attract bad luck in my casino play and its these lack of two attributes I have always failed on. I had neither a sound system, discipline nor patience and this was always my undoing. Now I have the a very playable method which is producing long winning streaks without the need to memorize complex rules like other systems. As I type I just won my 31st straight game of Baccarat using PB. For a guy who usually has the worst luck and loses this much in a row this can't be due to a dramatic  change in fortune. It has to do with the logic I am using to only bet when the odds are in my favor and I am avoiding the guessing game. Let the casino get lucky not me. I am just following the rules that have clearly been predefined. I truly believe the reason I would lose often is I was not having the discipline to stick to the rules both in bet selection and MM. Now I am doing this on bet selection and fine tuning my money management/progression I am having tremendous success with winning streaks and ultimately growing my profit.

PS. Correction. Just won another game while posting this. Now I am 32-0 on Online Baccarat. My 0-1-2 progression with letting virtual bet determine if I bet for/against the pattern in next two steps is working for me at 100% hit rate. Only 9 games sampled using this method but it is proving that betting for/against the pattern can work. I know Mr Random will eventually get me but I will be prepared with my MM strategy to deal with it knowing that I need to have a really bad run of losses to unravel what I have achieved in the last 5 days.

Cheers
Ricky

[Ricky]

Ricky

For some reason I realized betting only BPP or PBB work better.

You have to adapt your style of play and figure out what works better to you.

Hi Andre,
If you get the following does this count as a pattern
BBBB BPP BPP BP

or

PPPP PBB PBB PB

Notice before the pattern starts the first result was repeating one or more times.

What I am getting at is do you look at the big road and wait for the pattern to start without any previous repeats of the first  as in above example. This is what is making it hard for me to recognize when I look at the big road. Let me try to depict the big road with above example

B P B P B P
B P    P
B
B
B

P B P B P B
P B    B   
P
P
P

Does the above qualify or do you look for the below
P B P B P B P
      P     P

or

B P B P B P B
       B    B   

cheers,
Ricky

[Andre Chass]

Hi Andre,
If you get the following does this count as a pattern
BBBB BPP BPP BP

or

PPPP PBB PBB PB

Yes, it does.  Don't care about what appeared before the trigger.

Notice before the pattern starts the first result was repeating one or more times.

What I am getting at is do you look at the big road and wait for the pattern to start without any previous repeats of the first  as in above example. This is what is making it hard for me to recognize when I look at the big road. Let me try to depict the big road with above example

B P B P B P
B P    P
B
B
B

We have above BPP BPP BP

P B P B P B
P B    B   
P
P
P

We have above PBB PBB PB

Both qualify

Does the above qualify or do you look for the below
P B P B P B P
      P     P

We have above BPP BPP BP

or

B P B P B P B
       B    B   

We have above PBB PBB PB

Both quilify too

cheers,
Ricky

Ricky, it's simple like that.

Cheers

[Roulettebeater]

It depends how long the pattern is that you are betting for or against.

If it is one or two steps then, yes, flat betting may very well work.

However, for longer patterns of 3 or more decisions (like, say, PBPB), then it is doubtful that it will work flat betting.

Of course, if this pattern-based method that you are alluding is so good that you win most of the time on the first one or two bets, then, yes, flat betting should do the job.

Good morning Doctor!


Flat bet only the first step, say you have PBB then you should only play the first step which is P ... test it !

[DoctorSudoku]

Good morning Doctor!


Flat bet only the first step, say you have PBB then you should only play the first step which is P ... test it !

Good morning,

Yes, I understand the argument you are making.

I have noticed that 80% of the wins come on the first two spins and that is why I have switched over to the 1 2 progression in recent months (as opposed to the original 1 2 2 progression that I was using before).

This is a point I have made several times before in this thread.

I think flat betting the first bet only will make it hover around the 45 to 50% mark (some sessions will be slightly over the 50% mark), but I am NOT sure it will give me the consistent profits that the 1 2 progression is giving me so far.

I will give greater attention to this matter for sure.

[DoctorSudoku]

One question: When you are losing the first bet, you are ending the betting (and not going after the second bet) -- right?

In my case, I go after the second bet with 2 units as I explained in my previous post.

[cht]

Good morning,

Yes, I understand the argument you are making.

I have noticed that 80% of the wins come on the first two spins and that is why I have switched over to the 1 2 progression in recent months (as opposed to the original 1 2 2 progression that I was using before).

This is a point I have made several times before in this thread.

I think flat betting the first bet only will make it hover around the 45 to 50% mark (some sessions will be slightly over the 50% mark), but I am NOT sure it will give me the consistent profits that the 1 2 progression is giving me so far.

I will give greater attention to this matter for sure.

If the 1st bet hovers around 45-50%, then it's a losing bet at best breakeven. Instead you should bet only on the 2nd bet.

Depending on PB or it's variant the win is evenly distributed between the 1st/2nd bet or 2nd/3rd bet in the tests that I conducted. That's why I recommend 0/1/1 or 1/1 - there's no statistics justification for a 100% hike in the 2nd bet.

[Roulettebeater]

One question: When you are losing the first bet, you are ending the betting (and not going after the second bet) -- right?

In my case, I go after the second bet with 2 units as I explained in my previous post.

Hi doctor

Let me explain this, first of all I have found a pattern that consists of 6 elements ( in fact these 6 elements are the outcome from 6 different betting systems that are being verified for every 6 spins Per rotation )

I have verified the entire pattern against a relative huge number of spins and identified the losing combination of elements that have lost most of the time (to give an idea consider BBB Or RRR etc )

These combinations have been filtered out as I am not going to risk even one dollar when I encounter them.

Lastly I have made an assessment on the prodfitabilty of the whole pattern and discovered that I am still ahead even if I would have only played the first element of the pattern then stopped and waited for the appearance of the next pattern

Here are some figures from testing

Number of spins :1500
Hit at the first element :782
Miss at the first element: 546

That netweighs a profit of 237 units within these 1500 spins


Got it ?