*PATTERN BREAKER*

[psimoes]

Leicester vs. Chelsea - England FA Cup - today, 16:30 GMT

+/- 2.5 goals H2H recent history:

1-1
2-4
3-0
0-3
1-2
0-0

-+ ++ +- 4th set is --, so bet ++

Wish me luck

[psimoes]

Italy Serie A
Sampdoria vs Inter - today 11:30 GMT

H2H

1-0 1-1    - -

3-1 1-0   + -

1-2 3-2   ++

bet + -

[psimoes]

Spain - La Liga

Celta Vigo vs Malaga - today, 17:30

1-0 2-0
1-0 3-1
3-0 2-1

- -
- +
+ +
bet - +

[psimoes]

Germany Bundesliga - Dortmund vs Hannover - 12:30

0-3 0-1
2-3 2-4
1-0 4-2
+ -
+ +
- +
bet + +

[Ricky]

I'm a regular b&m player, I highlighted this problem earlier.

Hi CHT,
agree on traditional BM Baccarat. Although with history boards you can quickly track several tables and note down the patterns. Using traditional PB you can then watch the tables that are close to the 7th pattern closing. It speeds things up. But as each hand is around 2 minutes it requires real PATIENCE. But if you are only making 5 bets at any one visit for a high unit value it is worth the wait. At my BM casino they also have Rapid Baccarat which uses the electronic tables and hand dealt in less than 30 seconds. Although as I have found out the Banker payout is 50% of your bet if Banker win is 6.  So the best approach here is only bet if  second and third step are player bet or accept the risk of only winning 50% on banker bet.


But PB is playable on this form of Baccarat including Andre's version but due to its nature these opportunities require PATIENCE, and as always if you do not have it you are risking losing your bankroll and/or profit. I am slowly learning this fact as well as having the DISCIPLINE to stick with the one system and not chop and change methods. This is what has gotten me undone a few times. Trying to stick to what I know works and it is paying dividends.

Cheers,
Ricky

[psimoes]

Leicester vs. Chelsea - England FA Cup - today, 16:30 GMT

+/- 2.5 goals H2H recent history:

1-1
2-4
3-0
0-3
1-2
0-0

-+ ++ +- 4th set is --, so bet ++

Wish me luck

Extra time. A pseudowin here. Feels like a "moral victory".

The Serie A was a win.
The Bundesliga was a loss. Next match for a marty probably only next season. Meh.
La Liga - looking good (0-0) at half time.

[psimoes]

Celta vs Malaga was a win.
Next time I'll avoid the national and league cups as well CL and EL later stages where teams aim to score past FT.
Also, betting on just a single fixture at a time might be a good idea, allowing for mild progressions.

[Ricky]

Hi all,
I have been doing some testing to cater for those members who do not have the PATIENCE to wait for an opportunity to bet AFTER all 7 patterns have appeared or after finding BPP BPP BP or PBB PBB BP appear in Baccarat.

I have attached my updated spreadsheet showing my results after 67 games. Although I am learning to have the patience and am now betting high base units to get a win I have been testing the Jay Silva FORMULA that I have linked to link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4655.msg193120#msg193120

I must admit the method of progression he describes does work well if you have more wins than losses. As per most negative progressions there are downsides. The only real way to benefit from a limited negative progression is to do what some here on this forum do and that is to bet BIG sparingly for a maximum of 10 bets a day on a method you know has an EXTREMELY high chance of success. This is of course PATTERN BREAKER and as I am finding PB ANDRE version. I can't explain that phenomena yet but BPP and PBB do not seem to repeat 4 times or more in any Baccarat shoe I have played since tracking. Maybe coincidence but anyone else can show many failures of this I would be please to know.

Ok, now for those who cannot wait this long and want to place a bet more often to try to get ahead. First thing is to watch the video mentioned in the link to explain the FORMULA. You can ignore the rest of his video on the betting method he uses because I think its just too complicated for the average Joe.

But the betting method I am starting to use to test out the progression is based on PATTERN BREAKER. The rules I use are described in the Game Record Tab but I have mentioned below

Rules are:
RULE 1: ONLY bet when a pattern has ONE choice of matching in the next hand or beginning to repeat an already matched pattern.
Bet AGAINST the next hand matching a NEW pattern with count "0".

RULE 2: Define what you wish to use for Base Units : 1, 10,100, 1000 euro etc. For testing I have been using 1 euro. This suits a bankroll for 500 euro.   But as always use Base Units relative to your Bankroll.

Start Betting at F2 with 2 times your base bet. In my case I started betting with 2 euro.

Go UP on a LOSS and DOWN on a WIN. Progression is F2 F4 F5 F8. (number of times your Base Unit).  If you are on a losing streak and lose on F8 you have lost 19 units. You need to stop progression and restart at F2. You should be able to sustain this number of losses for 3 times at a total cost of 57 units so make sure your bankroll is at least this but recommended to be more. Size your Base Units accordingly.

When WON on  BASE 1 go to the LADDER step First L2
As you keep winning without a loss Keep going up the LADDER (L2 L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 number of times your Base Unit)
When you LOSE a bet while on the LADDER go back to base to the Start at F2.  The higher you went up the ladder without losing the more profit you made. You are guaranteed to be in + units at this point.

Keep track of each shoe separately. ie if one shoe is on a winning streak an the other on a losing streak do not mix progression levels between shoes. In effect I recommend maintaining two separate bankrolls for this or just bet on one shoe at a time.

Go up and down the steps as each shoe generates wins/losses. To repeat the rule -  only bet when there is only one decision left to be made whether a sequence will start repeating or will begin to close off a new pattern that has not yet completed.

At end of the shoe note which step you ended on to start at this level on next shoe. I have been using an X in the current level as I am betting on the shoe. The Idea is to try to get more wins than loses and take advantage of winning streaks where patterns begin to repeat many times before closing off to the 8th pattern. Useful for betting while waiting for the opportunity to bet against the last pattern. I recommend using smaller base units than that used to bet FOR/AGAINST the 8th pattern. Eg I use 1 euro for these bets but then 25 euro when finally betting on the last patter not to repeat. Hopefully you should get a bonus win before the end of the shoe in case 7th pattern does not close or no betting opportunities exist for BP ANDRE version. I have had this case a few times where the cards run out as there have been many ties and/or repeats of patterns. Frustrating if you weren't betting at all while waiting. But there I go again, showing IMPATIENCE.

Let me know what you think of this idea. It has not been negative to my bankroll yet and gives me and extra 10 or 20 euro while I am waiting. Obviously if I increased my Base Units I increase risk but also reward and possibly reach my profit target for the day sooner. But, even though the betting method still meets my criteria of using the closure of patterns as my trigger, it is going to have high risk of getting more losses. As JL keeps saying the success of a system is all about the number of WINS/LOSSES in 100 games so PATIENCE is always going to win in the end.

Let me know if you need further explanation on the FORMULA progression rules ( essentially has a limited Martingale/D'Alembert progression while losing and a nice Positive Progression to capture some winning streaks). For detailed explanation Jay's video explains it well.

PS. The alternative to betting using the above rules I mentioned is just to WAIT for the 8th PATTERN to remain or the repeating PBB/BPP and then use the FORMULA as an alternative to the 1-2-4 progression. If you get a lot of wins on the 1st step you will find you get onto the LADDER and are able to increase your bet size accordingly. 

And to summarize with the PATTERNS BREAKER specific betting only I am now 62-5. And Andre's version 14-0. Another 38 games to go.

Cheers,
Ricky

[Blackwidow]

Hi Ricky
I became a member a while ago but am on leave from work and wanted to catch up on the forum.  Have read a couple of posts and the Patternbreaker is rather impressive.
Was hoping you could point me in the direction of Andres revised PB for Baccarat.
Would be very much appreciated and thank you as well.
Do you live in Australia.
BW

[Ricky]

Here's my update after 92 games playing PB/PB ANDRE on Baccarat and now my BOT
Only 8 games to go. Currently at 82-10 with 285 euro profit. This equates to 8:1 win/loss ratio which seems comparable to to what others have achieved. Also not I have started to deploy 2 step progression and in my bot have settled on 1/2/0 rather than coding the FOR/AGAINST logic. But What I have coded is a check to only bet when the 7th pattern closes in less than 33 spins. Originally had it at 27 spins but found that too tight with few betting opportunities. If I start getting more losses I may push that back down to 27 or 30 spins. Also, I am ignoring the Zero in my sequences. I may review this as it too has an influence on the sequences that close and the final bets made. As I am not ignoring Tie in Baccarat it may make sense to do this for consistency with methods.

I will play next 8 games tomorrow using my BOT. and provide the final 100 game result.

As you can see in the history, I started getting pretty aggressive in number of games played. But they were for low units so happy to test it out. Once my bankroll improves together with my confidence I will start increasing the Base Bets to 15-20 euro and play less games per day. This will provide equivalent profit with less exposure.

Cheers,
Ricky.

[RouletteGhost]

Ricky,

Are you playing standard pattern breaker on baccarat?

[Ricky]

Ricky,

Are you playing standard pattern breaker on baccarat?

Hi RG,
I'm playing both PB and Andre's version of looking for PBB and BPP repeating 3.5 times before betting AGAINST the pattern not repeating 4 times.

So if you look at my spreadsheet I have coded both systems in the tracking. When either trigger hits I start betting. If all 7 patterns close leaving the last I bet AGAINST that pattern. But where I have been experimenting is in the progressions. Originally started with 1-2-4. But as others have identified why got to the 3rd step and risk having to recover when you can just do a 1-2. As I never liked not knowing if I would have won the 3rd step if losing the first two I played around with some rules to bet FOR or AGAINST the last pattern based on a virtual bet on the first. In manual play for Baccarat I use this 2 step rule. It has a similar hit rate as a 1-2 as most wins I find come on the first or second step. Rarely do I see the 3rd but it does happen. So depending on your confidence in the system and level of risk tolerance the choice is yours.

As in my recent post I am also experimenting with the FORMULA betting progression invented by Jay Silva. I found it to be quite useful when betting small amounts against the remaining patterns closing while you are waiting for that solitary bet. So the losses do not get to far away from your bankroll but if you get a lot of repeated patterns then that helps your bankroll. But the FORMULA is actually useful if you just want to use this progression in place of the 1-2-4 and bet on all 3 steps. It is a D'Alembert style progression so it dictates your next bet if you lose a game betting just PB. Your next game dosn't just start at 1 unit again. It starts where you left off from the last game. So your maximum risk would be 57 units over 12 losses in a row. With the success of PB we do not see 5 losses in a row let alone 12. Its usually a loss on the first and then win on the second. So thats 1 loss 1 win which puts you in positive units for that game. You would need to have many games hitting the 3 steps back to back with several losses to clock up 12 losses. I do not see this happening. So, unless you are as confident as the likes of Sentinel who employ the 1-2-4 progression this can be a safer alternative if you want to bet all 3 steps. It also caters for a winning streak by allowing you to increase your bets when you do not experience a losing hand. The alternative to this would be you deciding to increase your base bets based on your bankroll.   

PS. with my BOT which just experienced a 3 unit loss I tested the success of betting on E/C BR, HL,OE while waiting for the patterns to close and was able to claw back 2 units(10 euro) with 1 euro bets (my normal base bet is 5 euro) by betting the following rules similar to what I described for Baccarat.

RULE while waiting for a pattern to close say the wheel spins 25R which is a R,O,H result. Say you had RRB, RRR still to close but RBB and RBR had already closed.
I would bet 1 unit on B to start a repeat of one of the two closed patterns.
If R came out in next spin I would not bet because both R and B would close one of the 2 remaining patterns.
But if only RRB was remaining with RRR closing also and the first 2 spins were RR I would then place 2 units on R to bet the RRR would repeat.
If I win on R then that's another 1 unit to my bankroll.
But If I lose then that's good for the PB as its another step closer to placing that bet AGAINST the 8th pattern.

So the trick would be to get a lot of repeats and make an additional bonus while waiting for the 7th pattern to close. I am going to code this into my BOT as an optional recovery method in place of 2-4-8 which I really do not like even though back to back losses are rare. If you are going to play PATTERN BREAKER continuously rather than hit and run you need to have a safer recovery method than just increasing your bet size and breaking the golden rules of gambling to win (do not increase bets on a loss). Although we are breaking this rule with 1-2-4 or 1-1-3 etc we are doing it in very limited way with a method that has shown over the long run by many who are willing to be patient and disciplined to have a very high strike rate over 100 games

Cheers,
Ricky

[Ricky]

OK Here is the verdict of my 100 game test of PATTERN BREAKER playing average 10 games per day

WIN/LOSS RATIO CONFIRMED AT 8:1
Below is the breakdown of results.  Very interesting finding and confirms most wins come in 1st step followed by 2nd step. Only a few came in at 3rd step and similar number lost. So it confirms you can still have excellent results playing the 1-2 progression with few 3rd step losses and less recovery required.
Results for ANDRE's test confirmed Andre's statement that he can't remember the last loss he had. I too did not get a loss in 10 days and played between 2-4 games per day. So if these were for 100 euro base bets and a 1-2-4 progression was used you would be able to play minimally and still make a good return. 

TOTAL  PROFIT/LOSS   WIN   LOSS
TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 100
TOTAL          89   11
WIN:LOSS RATIO      8:1
PB          48   5
PB-ANDRE      14   0
PB-BOT         27   6
WIN 1ST STEP OF 1-2   19   
WIN 1ST STEP 1-2-4   38   
WIN 2ND STEP OF 1-2-4   23   
WIN 3RD STEP OF 1-2-4   7   
LOSS 3RD STEP OF 1-2-4      5
LOSS 3RD STEP 1-2      3
WON AGAINST         66   
WON FOR         9   
LOST FOR         0
LOSS AGAINST         11

So for those still doubting PATTERN BREAKER when played with DISCIPLINE and PATIENCE and consistency of progressions, that it can't beat the casino, here is some proof that some have been doing it consistently for 11 years and making a nice living off it. This test has convinced me to take this venture very seriously. I have never in all my gambling years had a 10 day winning streak this long let alone come out in profit be it to the tune of  321 euro with 5 euro base bets. Now if that were 50 euro base bets I would be looking at a handsome 3,210 euro in 10 days of patiently following the rules. This has proven to me that I am now ready to commit this sort of betsize to this system. Over 100 games my next report to this forum will be of that size.

I will stop updating the forum for the next 10 days an let others respond with their own comments and/or testing

Cheers,
Ricky

[Blackwidow]

Hi Ricky
I sent a post but you answered all the questions in your next post.  Thank you for such extensive work and explanation as I am learning and new to PB.
BW

[Andre Chass]

OK Here is the verdict of my 100 game test of PATTERN BREAKER playing average 10 games per day

WIN/LOSS RATIO CONFIRMED AT 8:1
Below is the breakdown of results.  Very interesting finding and confirms most wins come in 1st step followed by 2nd step. Only a few came in at 3rd step and similar number lost. So it confirms you can still have excellent results playing the 1-2 progression with few 3rd step losses and less recovery required.
Results for ANDRE's test confirmed Andre's statement that he can't remember the last loss he had. I too did not get a loss in 10 days and played between 2-4 games per day. So if these were for 100 euro base bets and a 1-2-4 progression was used you would be able to play minimally and still make a good return. 

TOTAL  PROFIT/LOSS   WIN   LOSS
TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 100
TOTAL          89   11
WIN:LOSS RATIO      8:1
PB          48   5
PB-ANDRE      14   0
PB-BOT         27   6
WIN 1ST STEP OF 1-2   19   
WIN 1ST STEP 1-2-4   38   
WIN 2ND STEP OF 1-2-4   23   
WIN 3RD STEP OF 1-2-4   7   
LOSS 3RD STEP OF 1-2-4      5
LOSS 3RD STEP 1-2      3
WON AGAINST         66   
WON FOR         9   
LOST FOR         0
LOSS AGAINST         11

So for those still doubting PATTERN BREAKER when played with DISCIPLINE and PATIENCE and consistency of progressions, that it can't beat the casino, here is some proof that some have been doing it consistently for 11 years and making a nice living off it. This test has convinced me to take this venture very seriously. I have never in all my gambling years had a 10 day winning streak this long let alone come out in profit be it to the tune of  321 euro with 5 euro base bets. Now if that were 50 euro base bets I would be looking at a handsome 3,210 euro in 10 days of patiently following the rules. This has proven to me that I am now ready to commit this sort of betsize to this system. Over 100 games my next report to this forum will be of that size.

I will stop updating the forum for the next 10 days an let others respond with their own comments and/or testing

Cheers,
Ricky

Hi Ricky

Good job!

I have a question...

Are you playing exactly the way I'm playing? How many games? Only 14?

BPP BPP BP and PBB PBB PB?

Which progression are you using when playing my pattern breaker version?

1-1-3 or 1-2-4 or 1-2?

Can you be more especific?

Cheers