*PATTERN BREAKER*

[Ricky]

Hi Ricky

Good job!

A have a question...

Are you playing exactly the way I'm playing? How many games?

BPP BPP BP and PBB PBB PB?

Which progression are you using when playing my pattern breaker version?

1-1-3 or 1-2-4 or 1-2?

Can you be more especific?

Cheers

Hi Andre,
I am now playing the way you play only tracking PBB PBB PB bet against BPB and also tracking BPP BPP BP bet against PBP

You can see in the spreadsheet which progressions I used for each game I played your version. Just filter for system - "PB-ANDRE". Mostly I was using 1-1-3. You can see I came break even 3 times winning on 2nd step. Once I went to the 3rd step and did not decide to bet 3 times as I got nervous I was going  to find that rare repeat so only bet 1-1-2 for break even. All other times I won on the first step.

Are you still playing 1-1-3? or are you going to the 4th step with 1-1-3-6. For me 4 is too steep but if you truly are confident and have the bankroll then it makes sense. What I may start doing is using the FORMULA progression by Jay Silva I have been describing. It will allow you to go F2 F3 F4 F5 F8 which is 5 steps. But this is a D'Alembert progression where you continue next game where you left off last game for if you won on F5. Next game you would start at F4 not back at 1. This way you can allow for those rare occasions you do get pushed to the 3rd or 4th step and not worry about having large bets

cheers,
Ricky

[footy73]

Hi guys,

14 days ago I have had small surgery, but as it happens sometimes, 7 days ago I was taken to hospital with wound infection and apparently if they waited few more hours to operate, I wouldn't be here with you anymore. Just arrived home and hardly have energy to write this, will take few weeks to recover to reasonable stage. So my apologies to all of you who messaged me and who are waiting for excel sheet I've promised to send. Will do as soon as I can
I am glad to see the whole team is still working at solutions and people are getting good results. In hospital, when not drugged up too much I used wizard of oz's baccarat for testing few different MM's and ways of play.

@ Dr Sudoku and CHT...yes , once again 1,2 proves to be the best option with most profit, as I thought . In my case I win most of the times on first, and half of the time on second hit. Third one is not worth. So even simulation replicated my real games scores.

@Andre......I am NOT surprised with your results...seriously I can't see many losses with the way you play, happening. Even if they do , it will be so rare. Glad to see you are making money. Oh and glad to see people calling your way PB Andre system...remember I was first who said you deserve that to be named after you hehe

@Ricky......Man....don't give up on creating new ideas , you are great at it my friend

The other ways of play I have toyed with were :

-   Play Against third repeat of set of fours...not bad results at all (few different options with MM)
-   As I have all patterns of 3 written down for PB ready to be crossed, I decided to play continuously for and against those patterns in that order, and results were pretty much the same as original PB, maybe little less win/loss ratio but faster play. I used 1,2 progression, 1,2,3 progression and used flat bet on only first bet. Even that one had good win/loss ratio.

You see...when in hospital you have time to go crazy

Keep winning ans sharing guys, I am soo happy to see you succeed. Talk soon

[Andre Chass]

Hi Andre,
I am now playing the way you play only tracking PBB PBB PB bet against BPB and also tracking BPP BPP BP bet against PBP

You can see in the spreadsheet which progressions I used for each game I played your version. Just filter for system - "PB-ANDRE". Mostly I was using 1-1-3. You can see I came break even 3 times winning on 2nd step. Once I went to the 3rd step and did not decide to bet 3 times as I got nervous I was going  to find that rare repeat so only bet 1-1-2 for break even. All other times I won on the first step.

Are you still playing 1-1-3? or are you going to the 4th step with 1-1-3-6. For me 4 is too steep but if you truly are confident and have the bankroll then it makes sense. What I may start doing is using the FORMULA progression by Jay Silva I have been describing. It will allow you to go F2 F3 F4 F5 F8 which is 5 steps. But this is a D'Alembert progression where you continue next game where you left off last game for if you won on F5. Next game you would start at F4 not back at 1. This way you can allow for those rare occasions you do get pushed to the 3rd or 4th step and not worry about having large bets

cheers,
Ricky

I just saw that in the spreadsheet.

Yes, I'm still playing 1-1-3 and I think is the best one.
Sometimes when I fell confident I go to the 4rd step but it scares me to death...lol.
I've never seen the pattern forming for 4 times so if you have the bankroll to do it I think it's hard to have a loss. But it makes me shake like a three...lol

Using the 4rd step I didn't get a loss yet.

Hugs

[Ricky]

Hi guys,

14 days ago I have had small surgery, but as it happens sometimes, 7 days ago I was taken to hospital with wound infection and apparently if they waited few more hours to operate, I wouldn't be here with you anymore. Just arrived home and hardly have energy to write this, will take few weeks to recover to reasonable stage. So my apologies to all of you who messaged me and who are waiting for excel sheet I've promised to send. Will do as soon as I can
I am glad to see the whole team is still working at solutions and people are getting good results. In hospital, when not drugged up too much I used wizard of oz's baccarat for testing few different MM's and ways of play.

@ Dr Sudoku and CHT...yes , once again 1,2 proves to be the best option with most profit, as I thought . In my case I win most of the times on first, and half of the time on second hit. Third one is not worth. So even simulation replicated my real games scores.

@Andre......I am NOT surprised with your results...seriously I can't see many losses with the way you play, happening. Even if they do , it will be so rare. Glad to see you are making money. Oh and glad to see people calling your way PB Andre system...remember I was first who said you deserve that to be named after you hehe

@Ricky......Man....don't give up on creating new ideas , you are great at it my friend

The other ways of play I have toyed with were :

-   Play Against third repeat of set of fours...not bad results at all (few different options with MM)
-   As I have all patterns of 3 written down for PB ready to be crossed, I decided to play continuously for and against those patterns in that order, and results were pretty much the same as original PB, maybe little less win/loss ratio but faster play. I used 1,2 progression, 1,2,3 progression and used flat bet on only first bet. Even that one had good win/loss ratio.

You see...when in hospital you have time to go crazy

Keep winning ans sharing guys, I am soo happy to see you succeed. Talk soon

Hi Footy73
I'm sorry to hear you have not been in good health. I hope you make a full recovery.

Thanks for the positive encouragement. I am determined to make this venture of mine work. I've been working all my life and, although its paying the bills, it does not leave me time to enjoy life. So I see this opportunity to financial freedom, together with other investments. I know the two worlds - gambling and investing - don't usually go well together but from what I have experienced the last 2 months from the information freely shared on this forum, I am starting to believe I can turn my fortunes around. What I think we all need to to support each other and continue sharing ideas to ensure we do not remain that 98% of gamblers that keep giving our hard earned money to the casinos. I am determined to get mine back and then take a heap more over time. But above all I am determined to practice DISCIPLINE and PATIENCE in my life even outside gambling.

Well I have now achieved my first 100 games. Now back to my $200 Challenge 

Cheers,
Ricky

[klw]

OK Here is the verdict of my 100 game test of PATTERN BREAKER playing average 10 games per day

WIN/LOSS RATIO CONFIRMED AT 8:1
Below is the breakdown of results.  Very interesting finding and confirms most wins come in 1st step followed by 2nd step. Only a few came in at 3rd step and similar number lost. So it confirms you can still have excellent results playing the 1-2 progression with few 3rd step losses and less recovery required.
Results for ANDRE's test confirmed Andre's statement that he can't remember the last loss he had. I too did not get a loss in 10 days and played between 2-4 games per day. So if these were for 100 euro base bets and a 1-2-4 progression was used you would be able to play minimally and still make a good return. 

TOTAL  PROFIT/LOSS   WIN   LOSS
TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 100
TOTAL          89   11
WIN:LOSS RATIO      8:1
PB          48   5
PB-ANDRE      14   0
PB-BOT         27   6
WIN 1ST STEP OF 1-2   19   
WIN 1ST STEP 1-2-4   38   
WIN 2ND STEP OF 1-2-4   23   
WIN 3RD STEP OF 1-2-4   7   
LOSS 3RD STEP OF 1-2-4      5
LOSS 3RD STEP 1-2      3
WON AGAINST         66   
WON FOR         9   
LOST FOR         0
LOSS AGAINST         11

So for those still doubting PATTERN BREAKER when played with DISCIPLINE and PATIENCE and consistency of progressions, that it can't beat the casino, here is some proof that some have been doing it consistently for 11 years and making a nice living off it. This test has convinced me to take this venture very seriously. I have never in all my gambling years had a 10 day winning streak this long let alone come out in profit be it to the tune of  321 euro with 5 euro base bets. Now if that were 50 euro base bets I would be looking at a handsome 3,210 euro in 10 days of patiently following the rules. This has proven to me that I am now ready to commit this sort of betsize to this system. Over 100 games my next report to this forum will be of that size.

I will stop updating the forum for the next 10 days an let others respond with their own comments and/or testing

Cheers,
Ricky

Hi Ricky , Re. the above stats for 1/2 betting on PB. You played 53 games of which 19 won on first step and you had 3 losses so of course you had 31 wins on the 2nd step ? I am just checking this is correct as it is quite different from Sentinel's record where he recorded 54% wins on the first bet. Of course it's most probably due to a much smaller sample size. Just curious.
Well done for testing and publishing your results for all to see. Cheers.

[Gandhi]

Ricky do you know if the way Sentinel plays does he bet against RRR - BBB - RBR - BRB if it is the last remaining pattern?
or does he avoid these patterns like you and Andre?

Just asking you cause I haven't seen Sentinel active on the forum much lately.

Thanks.

[Andre Chass]

Hi guys,

14 days ago I have had small surgery, but as it happens sometimes, 7 days ago I was taken to hospital with wound infection and apparently if they waited few more hours to operate, I wouldn't be here with you anymore. Just arrived home and hardly have energy to write this, will take few weeks to recover to reasonable stage. So my apologies to all of you who messaged me and who are waiting for excel sheet I've promised to send. Will do as soon as I can
I am glad to see the whole team is still working at solutions and people are getting good results. In hospital, when not drugged up too much I used wizard of oz's baccarat for testing few different MM's and ways of play.

@ Dr Sudoku and CHT...yes , once again 1,2 proves to be the best option with most profit, as I thought . In my case I win most of the times on first, and half of the time on second hit. Third one is not worth. So even simulation replicated my real games scores.

@Andre......I am NOT surprised with your results...seriously I can't see many losses with the way you play, happening. Even if they do , it will be so rare. Glad to see you are making money. Oh and glad to see people calling your way PB Andre system...remember I was first who said you deserve that to be named after you hehe

@Ricky......Man....don't give up on creating new ideas , you are great at it my friend

The other ways of play I have toyed with were :

-   Play Against third repeat of set of fours...not bad results at all (few different options with MM)
-   As I have all patterns of 3 written down for PB ready to be crossed, I decided to play continuously for and against those patterns in that order, and results were pretty much the same as original PB, maybe little less win/loss ratio but faster play. I used 1,2 progression, 1,2,3 progression and used flat bet on only first bet. Even that one had good win/loss ratio.

You see...when in hospital you have time to go crazy

Keep winning ans sharing guys, I am soo happy to see you succeed. Talk soon

Welcome back!

I'm happy to know everything is ok with you now. Sometimes life punches our teeth and we have to be strong. Take care of your health.

Let's keep in touch.

Cheers

[andrebac]

I just saw that in the spreadsheet.

Yes, I'm still playing 1-1-3 and I think is the best one.
Sometimes when I fell confident I go to the 4rd step but it scares me to death...lol.
I've never seen the pattern forming for 4 times so if you have the bankroll to do it I think it's hard to have a loss. But it makes me shake like a three...lol

Using the 4rd step I didn't get a loss yet.

Hugs

Andre,
I found it inside my 30 attacks test, as stated in a previous post.
I must say that I don't track Ties so I don't know if this have big influence or not, in this test.
I played as ties not existed.
A

[Ricky]

Ricky do you know if the way Sentinel plays does he bet against RRR - BBB - RBR - BRB if it is the last remaining pattern?
or does he avoid these patterns like you and Andre?

Just asking you cause I haven't seen Sentinel active on the forum much lately.

Thanks.

I am not sure about Sentinel, but I do not ignore these combinations when playing roulette or Baccarat the standard PB way as we are looking to closing off patterns and using random to determine when you bet. If random chooses BBB as last pattern when the wheel is in a streak of BBB so be it. Its a loss. The point is if you start putting in these rules you are playing into random's hand and not playing disciplined. Your guessing

As for Andre's version of PB. Because he is looking for a rare pattern that he know he has never seen repeat 4 times then he only chooses the two patterns PBB and BPP. The others can repeat often many times especially when long streaks of PPP or BBB or PBP occur. I have personally witnessed streaks of 15 or more. But NEVER witnessed PBB PBB PBB PBB or BPP PBB PBB PBB. I can't explain it. Maybe I have not seen a big enough sample of Baccarat shoes to be convinced this will never happen. But if it only happens once in 1000 shoes then it has to be a winning combination if you get many PBB PBB PB or BPP BPP PB as triggers for betting opportunities where the pattern does not continue for the next 3 hands.

Also, I do not think the PB ANDRE's version can be used on Roulette for the reasons I stated that this seemingly rare pattern in Baccarat is influenced by ONE random event for the whole shoe. So to lose betting against this combination repeating 4 times you are betting against that 1 random event of the shoes being shuffled in a certain order.

With Roulette you are dealing with a random event every spin and each spin is 50/50 probability it will go one way or the other. So it is more likely to see a lot of RBB RBB RBB RBB just as it is to see BBB BBB BBB BBBB.

Cheers,
Ricky

[Ricky]

Andre,
I found it inside my 30 attacks test, as stated in a previous post.
I must say that I don't track Ties so I don't know if this have big influence or not, in this test.
I played as ties not existed.
A

With the Tie interrupting the pattern I do not ignore it and I think it does break the pattern. If you ignore it then I think there may be more instances where the pattern may continue. So it would be a good test to see if all losses occur when a tie has been involved.

Also, I have come across situations where I get a trigger PBB PBB PB and then start betting against BPB and the first or second steps is a Tie. In this case Andre advises he treats it as a loss. So in the First Step you get your money back but in the 2nd step you lost the 1st bet. I personally do not keep betting because I do not know whether I should repeat the  step or treat it as a loss and go to the next step. So I don't bet at all. I am not sure what Andre does in this case

Cheers,
Ricky

[Ricky]

Hi Ricky
I became a member a while ago but am on leave from work and wanted to catch up on the forum.  Have read a couple of posts and the Patternbreaker is rather impressive.
Was hoping you could point me in the direction of Andres revised PB for Baccarat.
Would be very much appreciated and thank you as well.
Do you live in Australia.
BW

Hi Blackwidow,
apologies for missing your post. Hope you have worked out how we Play Baccarat using Andre's method. Take a look at one of my spreadsheets I posted recently. There are two tabs with a PATTERN BREAKER tracker. This includes both the original version and what I call PB-ANDRE. It has all the rules coded in so you just need to enter the Baccarat results and it will advise you when it has found one of the patterns. It shows up in Green the next three hands which will continue the pattern to the 4th time. You need to start betting AGAINST this pattern.

Let me know if you need further explanation. Also remeber to enter the Tie as I really think you should not skip it

Cheers
Ricky

[Gandhi]

t sure about Sentinel, but I do not ignore these combinations when playing roulette or Baccarat the standard PB way as we are looking to closing off

Thanks for the info Ricky! Much appreciated!
you, Sentinel and Andre are giving great info, hope you guys keep making progress!

[Blackwidow]

Hi Ricky
Thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.  Inspirational.
Appreciate your help.
Penny

[Proofreaders2000]

Here is a MST Tracker containing the
original Pattern Breaker.  It monitors all three EC's.

[bikemotorman]

Still testing PB and it is doing well the waiting is a bit long but I think it is at about 9 to 1 loss so far yesterday I had one full triple loss which I will show below.

PBP AND I PLAYED OPPOSITE BPB BUT THE RESULT WAS PBP so I lost on that one and I play the opposite when I play and I also stop at the first win and then retract to go for another triple.
This morning I had PBP and played BPB and won on the first game.



Stuart