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*PATTERN BREAKER*

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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ozon

I do not understand one.
No one has yet proved that playing a patern non  stop can still achieve any edge.
Everything that was said and tested in this topic proves that it can only earn thanks to the rare pattern and hitnrun and the biggest indicator "LUCK"
If something works for you, do not fix it until it's broken.

But, playing non-stop and recovery mode, is doomed immediately to failure.

ozon

It is interesting for me that someone would probably show a profit by playing against streaks in baccarat.
Guided by the principles of this topic.
Playing only once a day
Playing only and only the first pattern that he will see on several bacarat tables
We are waiting for a streak of 6 time same P or B and we're playing, for breaking the series with 3 step progresion 1-1-3
Our assumption is that we will not see the first long series of 10 streaks.
Bakroll 100 units, game duration 2 years

Andre Chass

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 28, 08:55 PM 2018
Resorts world casino. Queens NY. No live dealers. Only electronic

The baccarat is real cards dealt by a robotic arm

I haven’t played anything yet. I was going to attempt pattern breaker

What is your way?

There many many different terminals with plenty of seating and you can sit without betting. No dealers. No pit bosses

Very interesting. Someday I will try it.

You can find my pattern breaker variation reading my previous posts.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Mar 29, 02:29 AM 2018
Hi Andre,
link:s://:.crownmelbourne.com.au/casino/casino-games/semi-automated-table-games

This casino has Roulette, Baccarat (3 tables live dealer but shuffled using a ShuffleMaster, no CSM, plays through complete 6 deck shoe), BlackJack(CSM machine) and SicBo all live dealer and electronic tables with games played every 30 seconds or so with timer for betting on electronic machines. Plenty of tables to choose from and you can sit there all day no questions asked. I think I will be settling to your method of Play BPP BPP BP and PBB PBB PB and then betting big 30-30-90 until bankroll grows. I have a 1,000 bankroll and hoping to grow it using this method alone. I have not had a real loss yet although had losses with tie which I had to stop betting. I am considering covering tie bet on step 2-3 with 30-25,5,82-8 as long as I continue not to experience any real losses.
In my analysis of other rare patterns I have come across the attached pattern PBBB PBBB PBBB which I have not seen repeating 4 times. Have you seen this pattern repeat more than three? If not then do you think we could bet same 30-30-90 on BPP for it not to repeat a fourth time? The same would go for BPPP BPPP BPPP which you would bet PBB.

Regards,
Ricky

Hi Ricky

Cool casino!

Once I tested betting real money playing against a different pattern and I almost bust my bankroll.
I had to go to 6 step progression. Nevermore I'll do that.

As I said before I only play the PBB and BPP patterns because I've never seen they forming for 4 times in a row.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Mar 29, 03:56 AM 2018
Hi Andre,
while typing this last post I just cam across another example of the pattern I mentioned above


Could this be another betting opportunity?
Cheers,
Ricky

My advice is don't play that. As I said before I almost lost my bankroll.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

ayk

Andre was that a trigger for u? Happend this night.


Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Mar 29, 03:51 AM 2018
Hi DR
Tie on second step so LOSS-TIE for -30-0 = -30. Technically not a loss of the 3 step but when you get a tie it  breaks the pattern but you have not choice but to abandon the betting progression I will recoup that loss in next  game. So my idea is if I get to 2nd or 3rd step I will start covering the tie bet with 25,5 and 82,8 respectively to recoup loss of  previous step(s) and sacrifice some profit. Risk will be the same.

Cheers,
Ricky

I never ignore the Tie. It breaks the pattern. I tried ignoring the Tie for two times for testing but betting real money and I went a deep hole.
I had to spent hours in recovery mode.

Anyway I've hadn't no TRUE loss since I started using my PB version.
My bank roll is growing up fast.

My advice: don't ignore the tie and don't try play against a different pattern.
But you can try if you want. Your risk...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: ayk on Mar 29, 02:28 PM 2018
Andre was that a trigger for u? Happend this night.


Yes, that was a trigger.

I have to remember that the strategy can lose. But it's very rare you have a loss. But it can happen.
The strategy is not invecible. But you win much more then you lose.

The pattern forming for 4 times in a row is a very rare event.

If you have a large bankroll you could keep the progression. The baccarat variance is very limited.

How many baccarat tables they're at William Hill?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

ozon

Andre
How much average time are you waiting for the first trigger?
I know that it is different times, but what were the longest waiting times.
I will have a lot of time now so I can try, but I will play only one trigger with hitnrun.

Andre Chass

Quote from: ozon on Mar 29, 03:12 PM 2018
Andre
How much average time are you waiting for the first trigger?
I know that it is different times, but what were the longest waiting times.
I will have a lot of time now so I can try, but I will play only one trigger with hitnrun.

Playing now is my job. I have all the time to wait for the trigger. Sometimes as soon as I enter the Casino the trigger appears in just 5 minutes. Sometimes I've waited for almost two hours. For the wait to be worth you have to play high value amounts. I play 6 to 7 games a day. I'm very happy playing it.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

ozon

Ok, thanks.
I will try deposit money and check if I have some luck.

Andre Chass

Quote from: ozon on Mar 29, 03:31 PM 2018
Ok, thanks.
I will try deposit money and check if I have some luck.

Bet without fear. You will not regret.

Good luck!
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 29, 02:23 PM 2018As I said before I only play the PBB and BPP patterns because I've never seen they forming for 4 times in a row.
I just came back from the B&M Casino just mentioned looking for the PBB PBB PBB PBB and stayed there playing for 5 hours (talk about Patience and discipline). They had 4 Rapid Baccarat tables open.  I put on 4 bets all night playing this system and got caught twice with the Tie on the second bet causing my bankroll to go down by $55. Third time I covered the Tie with $25 and $5 on tie. And lucky I did as It came up a Third time. Recovered previous loss with it. But in 5 hours of continuous play I did not come across one PBB or BPP repeating 4 times. Closest it came was 3 times and start of 4th PBB PBB PBB P. I won on the 2nd bet but it was a break even as I was playing 30-30-90
Next time I think I may increase my bankroll and start playing 30-45-90 and cover the Tie bet as I am struggling to get caught with a real loss.

Cheers,
Ricky

ayk

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 29, 02:41 PM 2018
Yes, that was a trigger.

I have to remember that the strategy can lose. But it's very rare you have a loss. But it can happen.
The strategy is not invecible. But you win much more then you lose.

The pattern forming for 4 times in a row is a very rare event.

If you have a large bankroll you could keep the progression. The baccarat variance is very limited.

How many baccarat tables they're at William Hill?

Well, that's the game ;)

They have 10 tables.
6x std
1x no commission
2x speed
And 1 Tiger/dragon

cht

Quote from: Ricky on Mar 29, 04:05 PM 2018
I just came back from the B&M Casino just mentioned looking for the PBB PBB PBB PBB and stayed there playing for 5 hours (talk about Patience and discipline). They had 4 Rapid Baccarat tables open.  I put on 4 bets all night playing this system and got caught twice with the Tie on the second bet causing my bankroll to go down by $55. Third time I covered the Tie with $25 and $5 on tie. And lucky I did as It came up a Third time. Recovered previous loss with it. But in 5 hours of continuous play I did not come across one PBB or BPP repeating 4 times. Closest it came was 3 times and start of 4th PBB PBB PBB P. I won on the 2nd bet but it was a break even as I was playing 30-30-90
Next time I think I may increase my bankroll and start playing 30-45-90 and cover the Tie bet as I am struggling to get caught with a real loss.

Cheers,
Ricky
PBandre -
Bet against BPPBPPBP or PBBPBBPB with 4 step progression 1/1/3/6. Tie will be not be ignored. If tie appear during betting, stop bet loss accepted.


Let me summarise the facts based on your post.

5 hrs of 4 rapid baccarat tables approx@1hr per shoe give 20 shoes.
You played 4 games. 3 games stop bet on the tie loss accepted, 1 game breakeven on the 2nd bet.
Giving you -3+0 = net loss of -3.
3 out of 4 games, the tie appear after the 1st bet.

This falls in according to the stats I presented earlier. The complete loss of all 4 steps comes in at 1-2 times every 100 shoes.

One important practical aspect to note for b&m casino that I highlighted earlier. The geographical layout of the rapid baccarat machines must be close enough each other to allow you to scan those set of machines together - continuous walk to and fro between those machines to scan for the pattern. There may be instances where 2 or more machines may show partial formation of the pattern at the same time.

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