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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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Andre Chass

Quote from: sentinel3 on Apr 03, 09:00 AM 2018
You are welcome Andre.

The important thing is your BANKROLL OVERALL is moving in the right direction..Thats all that matters.

If your strikerate is going to stay about 15/1 you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

I always aim to take two steps forward for every step backwards. It looks like you can take 3 or 4 steps forward for every step backwards.

So unless you start finding more losses closer together. I wouldnt even sweat it Andre. Youve found your system with this one.

Thank you sentinel3

I forgot to say that in those 3 months playing the revised version with the 1, 1, 3, 6 progression I break even several times and I didnt win a few times because I didnt cover the tie.

The correct progression that I'm actually using is 45, 45, 135, 270 and not 50, 50, 150, 300.

I play for 5 days a week. The average profit is 225 per day playing 6 or 7 games (It can be a long wait). But as i said before playing is my job.

Just to make things clear.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: sentinel3 on Apr 03, 09:00 AM 2018So unless you start finding more losses closer together. I wouldnt even sweat it Andre. Youve found your system with this one.

Hi all,
I just came across this on youtube and I am wondering if anyone else can see the merit in it if you combine it with PB on Baccarat
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=-bHRYtdChRY

Its a positive parlay method which risks 31 units for 10 losing bets in a row but guarantees a positive return if you get at least 2 wins in a row.

Progression is 1 1 1 2 2 4 4 8 8

But the kicker is you double your bet on a win for the next bet if you do not win 2 in a row and end in the black. The video explains the exact rule. also check link:://:.moneyblowers.com/roulette-systems/parlay-31-roulette-system for a good explanation and table of win/loss scenarios.

Using this described progression you would wait for BPP BPP BP to form and then follow the described progression betting [BPBB] for the next 4 bets until a win. With this method you could go up to 10 to risk 31 units but you would not do that and unlikey to get 10 losses in a row.

Now we know that the most losing bets we should get are 4 before a win and MOST wins come in the First Bet so we should get many back to back wins on the first step which meets out criteria for a positive bankroll as long as we get 2 wins in a row.

Lets try a typical example using my recent results
I will use the results around my recent 3 step loss to demonstrate what would have happened if we used this progression and method of betting.



is an example getting
Betting Progression is 1 1 1 2 2 4 4 8 8
Game 1  WIN Step 1           
        Bet 1 unit +1
Game 2  WIN Step 1
        Bet 2 unit +3 
Game 3  WIN Step 1           
        Bet 1 unit +4
Game 4  WIN Step 1
        Bet 2 unit +6
Game 5  WIN Step 3
        Bet 1 unit Loss +5
        Bet 1 unit Loss +4
        Bet 1 unit Win  +5
Won but not < +4 so now we need to double bet in Next Game
Game 6  WIN Step 1
        Bet 2 units (double last win) Win +7

TWO WINS IN A ROW Now +7 > +4 (previous high) so end of progression. We start progression from Start at 1 unit

Game 7  LOSS Step 3
        Bet 1 Unit Loss +6
        Bet 1 Unit Loss +5
        Bet 1 Unit Loss +4
Lost 3 units need to continue progression with 2 units in next game or alternatively continue to Step 4 in current game. Lets assume we stopped Current game.
Game 8 WIN Step 1
        Bet 2 units Win +6
Won but +6 < +7 so now we need to double bet in Next Game
Game 9 WIN Step 3
        Bet 4 units Loss +2
        Bet 2 units Loss 0
        Bet 4 units Win +4 
Won but +4 < +7 so now we need to double bet in Next Game
So on the next trigger we will bet 8 units
Game 10 WIN Step 1
        Bet 8 units Win +12

TWO WINS IN A ROW Now +12 > +7(previous high) so end of progression. We Start at 1 unit

Game 11 WIN Step 2
       Bet 1 unit Loss +11
       Bet 1 unit Win  +12
Won but +12 <= +12 so now we need to double bet in Next Game
Game 12 WIN Step 1
       Bet 2 units Win +14

TWO WINS IN A ROW Now +14 > +12(previous high) so end the progression. We Start at 1 unit

Andre Chass

Ricky

That's called Parlay 31. Most of the players in this forum have gone through this. It has been proven that there is no advantage compared to the martingale. Waste of time.
Sorry...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 03, 10:33 AM 2018Won but not < +4 so now we need to double bet in Next Game
Game 6  WIN Step 1
        Bet 2 units (double last win) Win +7

TWO WINS IN A ROW Now +7 > +4 (previous high) so end of progression.
Sorry a typo should read
Quote
Won but not < +6 so now we need to double bet in Next Game
Game 6  WIN Step 1
        Bet 2 units (double last win) Win +7

TWO WINS IN A ROW Now +7 > + 6 (previous high) so end of progression.

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 03, 10:46 AM 2018
Ricky

That's called Parlay 31. Most of the players in this forum have gone through this. It has been proven that there is no advantage compared to the martingale. Waste of time.
Sorry...
Thanks Andre for feedback just food for thought given what we know about this version of pattern breaker. I am thinking the method could be used sparingly in case we get unexpected losses. We could also modify the rules or shorten the progression from 10 to 6. What I liked about it is it only takes 2 wins in a row on the 1st step to get back into profit

But lets park it for now and continue with what is working.

Cheers,
Ricky

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 03, 10:57 AM 2018
Thanks Andre for feedback just food for thought given what we know about this version of pattern breaker. I am thinking the method could be used sparingly in case we get unexpected losses. We could also modify the rules or shorten the progression from 10 to 6. What I liked about it is it only takes 2 wins in a row on the 1st step to get back into profit

But lets park it for now and continue with what is working.

Cheers,
Ricky


Ricky,
Like Andre, I have also tried this parlay method with various EC bet selection methods.

It gives very spotty results.

On the surface, it looks promising because it looks so easy to win 2 consecutive times.

However, even with the EC bets, getting those 2 consecutive wins sometimes is very difficult.

There are long stretches where it proves elusive.

And then you end up in a hole (or dig yourself a deeper hole).

I would NOT apply that parlay method to the PB bet selection method.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

sentinel3

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 03, 03:09 PM 2018

Ricky,
Like Andre, I have also tried this parlay method with various EC bet selection methods.

It gives very spotty results.

On the surface, it looks promising because it looks so easy to win 2 consecutive times.

However, even with the EC bets, getting those 2 consecutive wins sometimes is very difficult.

There are long stretches where it proves elusive.

And then you end up in a hole (or dig yourself a deeper hole).

I would NOT apply that parlay method to the PB bet selection method.
Yes keep it SIMPLE people.

Aim to get to a place where eventually you can make good money from as little as 10 games A WEEK.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 03, 10:33 AM 2018
Hi all,
I just came across this on youtube and I am wondering if anyone else can see the merit in it if you combine it with PB on Baccarat
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=-bHRYtdChRY

Its a positive parlay method which risks 31 units for 10 losing bets in a row but guarantees a positive return if you get at least 2 wins in a row.

Progression is 1 1 1 2 2 4 4 8 8

But the kicker is you double your bet on a win for the next bet if you do not win 2 in a row and end in the black. The video explains the exact rule. also check link:://:.moneyblowers.com/roulette-systems/parlay-31-roulette-system for a good explanation and table of win/loss scenarios.

Using this described progression you would wait for BPP BPP BP to form and then follow the described progression betting [BPBB] for the next 4 bets until a win.

With this method you could go up to 10 to risk 31 units but you would not do that and unlikey to get 10 losses in a row.





Ricky,
I just thought that I would make this comment as an addition to my previous post.

It is not exactly true that you need to have 10 losses in a row for this method to lose.

You can  end up losing the series when you get a bunch of W L W Ls in a row also.

So, for instance, let's say you are betting 1 unit.

You win it and now you have 2 units. That's a W.

Then you parlay the 2 units and lose. You have sufferred an L -- and you also have lost your original 1 unit.

So you have on to the next step.

And then you can have another W followed by another L .

Then you are forced to move up to the next step.

And so on and so forth.

So while a series of consecutive Ls can certainly make you lose with this method, a series of zig zag patterns of W L W Ls also very frequently contributes to making us lose with this method.

In reality, both consecutive Ls and a zig zag series of W L W Ls collectively cause us to lose the entire 31 units that we started out with.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Ricky

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 03, 07:34 PM 2018


Ricky,
I just thought that I would make this comment as an addition to my previous post.

It is not exactly true that you need to have 10 losses in a row for this method to lose.

You can  end up losing the series when you get a bunch of W L W Ls in a row also.

So, for instance, let's say you are betting 1 unit.

You win it and now you have 2 units. That's a W.

Then you parlay the 2 units and lose. You have sufferred an L -- and you also have lost your original 1 unit.

So you have on to the next step.

And then you can have another W followed by another L .

Then you are forced to move up to the next step.

And so on and so forth.

So while a series of consecutive Ls can certainly make you lose with this method, a series of zig zag patterns of W L W Ls also very frequently contributes to making us lose with this method.

In reality, both consecutive Ls and a zig zag series of W L W Ls collectively cause us to lose the entire 31 units that we started out with.
Hi DR
yes I considered this scenario of WLWLWL which you classify as a choppy game has dire consequences for most negative progression strategies. I have done some testing with 1 euro base bets and can see the merits of the parlay 31 method as applied to Baccarat PB as I rarely get to the WLWLW situation and rarely get 5 losses in a row.

What I am thinking is you take the concept to the 2nd level 111 22. If you get to the end without 2 wins in a row you stop. But the betting is only to be done with the PB Andre version patterns because we never see a choppy game here. What it enables me to do is bet from the 5th pattern to the 8th pattern with relatively small bets say 1 or 2 euro base bet. If I get to the 8th pattern of BPP BPP BP it has triggered my normal betting so I can start betting for larger units as per normal 20,25-5,80,10

But if the trigger does not present which seems to be most times then I have the opportunity to make a few euro here and there. It will have minimal impact on overall bankroll

Cheers,
Ricky

praline

Is there a way to understand this "thing" without reading 216 pages?
At the end all of you know that only a couple of posts here have "some" value.
I will code it with rx to show you that it's a loosing system, method or strategy.
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

praline

One little thing...
Don't write things like "it's a mind set" , "self-discipline" or other bullshit like "wait two loosing months and then bet your salary on red".
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

Ricky

Quote from: praline on Apr 03, 09:39 PM 2018
Is there a way to understand this "thing" without reading 216 pages?
At the end all of you know that only a couple of posts here have "some" value.
I will code it with rx to show you that it's a loosing system, method or strategy.
Hi praline,
I have already done so and shared on the forum  I am testing some major modifications to it to run continuously. Will share results after 100 games played shortly (currently just completed 88 games)

But to save you the time to find the post here it is
Quote from: Ricky on Feb 17, 02:52 AM 2018

Once I have completed my testing I will share the full system with whoever is interested. Just PM me your details and I will get in touch to discuss further testing of the system. You will need to have a licenced copy of RX and RX bot to use the bot feature.

Cheers,
Ricky

Ricky

Quote from: praline on Apr 03, 09:43 PM 2018
One little thing...
Don't write things like "it's a mind set" , "self-discipline" or other bullshit like "wait two loosing months and then bet your salary on red".
Hi Praline. with an attitude like that I don't think this thread is for you. If you do not have the PATIENCE and DISCIPLINE to use PATTERN BREAKER sparingly like sentinel and DR say then it is proven that you will not profit from this system playing manually. As I mentioned in recent posts I am testing this system using an automated system on RX with the BOT feature using REAL money not some 1million spin simulation. It has all the PATIENCE and DISCIPLINE in the world while I get on with life. I am not a successful "gambler" so I need a bot to keep me DISCIPLINED. It has a lot of PATIENCE to wait for that 3-10 games a day to bet. At the moment its betting about 25 games a day for small 4-6 euro base bets. But this is for testing with a 600 euro bankroll to compare the win rate with those using sparingly for 1-10 games a day. I am trying to determine what they mean by HIT & RUN because it is not limited to waking up in the morning and placing those 3 bets and running. You should be able to hit and run at any time of the day.

If this method proves successful in the bot then this is probably the option for you. As I mentioned, PM me and I can share with you the system for your own testing

Cheers
Ricky

viclimks

Ricky... Does PB works better in baccarat than roulette?Safer Bet i mean

Ricky

Quote from: viclimks on Apr 04, 12:47 AM 2018
Ricky... Does PB works better in baccarat than roulette?Safer Bet i mean
Hi viclimks,
As DR mentioned earlier Baccarat has less variance than roulette. What you are betting against when you play Baccarat is one random event, the shuffle of the cards before the shoe starts. From that point on your fate of catching or avoiding patterns is set. So if you are lucky enough to use your chosen system on a favorably shuffled shoe you can profit. The patterns cannot change during the game. It does not depend on the number of players playing(in blackjack) or the speed at which the croupier spins the wheel or which objects it hit during its spin. Roulette has to deal with all these random events each and every spin. And these events dictate the fate of your bet. So the variance of random is much greater in Roulette than Baccarat. Besides that the rules are more favorable. Standard Baccarat you do not lose your bet when there is a Tie (player and banker hands are the same) So if you cover the tie in a long progression you get you relatively large bet back plus you win 8:1 on the tie. You can't ask for anything safer than that proposition. If you do find a rare pattern to bet against like PBB PBB PBB PBB and bet for the last 4 hands in 1-1-2-4 or 1-2-4-8 and cover the Tie bet on hands 2 or 3  to step 4 then you have a high probability of profiting.

But it is still a risk and the higher your progression the higher the risk. Because of the low variance in Baccarat I am prepared to risk 140 euro with 600 euro bankroll. In Roulette I am not prepared to take this risk because with my bad luck I am risk ruin to make a few units profit. Its not worth it.

Having said that DISCIPLINE and PATIENCE win in the long run over any decent system. You need to know when to make those calculated risks and when to avoid them. I am not very good at that but am improving. Just came across this scenario now and took a risk but got away with a 19 euro loss as I have never gone to the 4th step before and miscalculated my betsize.
Cheers,
Ricky

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