*PATTERN BREAKER*

[bikemotorman]

A BIG AMEN ON THAT RICKY.

[DoctorSudoku]

Sorry you loss the bet.

The million dollar question - is PBandre 4steps bet a winner or loser ?

My test shows the following average count -

1. 3 signals appear in 20 shoes,
2. Complete 4steps loss appear 1-2 times in 100 shoes,
3. the 1st step is net positive,
4. the 2nd step is 50:50,
3. the 3rd/4th step is smaller net positive.

Can someone confirm or disprove my findings pls ? TQ

The following observations are for my playing of PB as per JL's version.

Also, I have my own tweaks that I have incorporated into my actual playing regimen. 

My results show that the 1st step is net positive (slightly, NOT overwhelmingly -- otherwise, I would just flat bet the 1st step and make good profits).

My results show that the 2nd step is net positive (again slightly -- and the effect is WEAKER than for the 1 st step).

The 3rd step is barely 50/50 or thereabouts.

Because of my above observations, I decided to switch from the 1 2 2 to the 1 2 about six months ago last year.

[nottophammer]

Guys,

I get it.  You like the pattern breaker.  Perhaps it's fun.  But try and formulate a physical reason as to why it should work.

What do you believe is the reason that it should work?

What's the point general you dont play PB, or do you? if you dont play then why do you have to post your neg comments in here and every where

[sentinel3]

Hi Sentinel,
its still 35-1 but still in the black.
As mentioned, I think FLAT BETTING is still a good option and applying positive progression when I get step 1 win will accelerate my wins

Andre, when you get your laptop look at my spreadsheet. Flatbetting will be better in the long run. ONLY bet on step 1 but WAIT until 3 repeats BPP BPP BPP (nine hands) this way you are virtual betting your 8th hand and avoiding the loss. Then if you lose WAIT to see if the 4th repeat occurs. If it does then do another FLAT BET AGAINST the 5th repeat. If you lose repeat the WAIT until the 6th etc. This way you will avoid the disaster you find yourself in.

Cheers,
Ricky

Well thats phenomenal Ricky. Ive never had an overall strikerate above 14--1. But the point is knowing what I know even 7--1 would be profitable. Once youve played 1000 games I will be amazed if you are still 35--1. For a three step marty. If you are, then it will be safe to say you have the best 3 step system ever.

I know Andre took a beating a few days ago. But it was more a case of losing his money management discipline. Than the system actually failing him. STEP 1 presents alot of potential Ricky.

Ive gone over 2000 games  20 sets of 100. Its worst performance is 43% out of a 100. Its best 54% out of a 100. Average is 48%. With clever MM. This is a certain winner. Longest gap between wins over those 2000 games was 6.

Not only that Ricky. It produces AT LEAST 4 tripples every 100 games. And has won 5 in a row many times. 6 in a row being the best run I have on record...

[Ricky]

Once youve played 1000 games I will be amazed if you are still 35--1. For a three step marty. If you are, then it will be safe to say you have the best 3 step system ever.

I know Andre took a beating a few days ago. But it was more a case of losing his money management discipline. Than the system actually failing him. STEP 1 presents alot of potential Ricky.

Hi Sentinel,
I agree MM is key. But just to confirm how rare these patterns are, I have not found one betting opportunity tracking 2 tables in the last 5 hours. I am itching to put on my first 50 euro flat bet but no triggers. What I sometime do to tease it is put on 1 euro bets after 4 or 5 hands that form the pattern but it never gets past 7 hands before I win the lousy 1 euro. Its amazing

Anyway, while waiting been doing some analysis on my 100 game BOT test. How do these figures correlate with your long term averages. Also, can you give me some suggestions on bet size for my next run. I have 600 euro bankroll and want to target about 300 euro in the next 10 days playing sparingly

Cheers,
Ricky

[Winner]

Hi Sentinel,
I agree MM is key. But just to confirm how rare these patterns are, I have not found one betting opportunity tracking 2 tables in the last 5 hours. I am itching to put on my first 50 euro flat bet but no triggers. What I sometime do to tease it is put on 1 euro bets after 4 or 5 hands that form the pattern but it never gets past 7 hands before I win the lousy 1 euro. Its amazing

Anyway, while waiting been doing some analysis on my 100 game BOT test. How do these figures correlate with your long term averages. Also, can you give me some suggestions on bet size for my next run. I have 600 euro bankroll and want to target about 300 euro in the next 10 days playing sparingly

Cheers,
Ricky

[Winner]

157 bets made in over 8000 spins  you guys are nuts.
Andre keep working or invest in a business .
Or become a kick ass poker player .

[Ricky]

157 bets made in over 8000 spins  you guys are nuts.
Andre keep working or invest in a business .
Or become a kick ass poker player .

He Winner,
that's too much. My next test will be upping the betsize in DECREASING the bets. The idea is to find the BEST conditions to place those WINNING bets. No need to tempt the casino to take our money.

Any suggestions for betsize on 600 euro welcome.

PS. The Virtual Bets made showed a loss of 46 euro had I played continuously through that period I would have played another 87 games and lost 20 euro overall. So the simulation of HIT and RUN waiting for a virtual loss was successful in avoiding some losses and extending the winning streak

Cheers,
Ricky

[Roulettebeater]

Only 157 bets  in 8000 spins ?
That's f****** slow !!!

[Andre Chass]

Andre curvefitted the results and no one is admitting it or what.

Thats true. The strategy doesn't work. The results I posted are just to encourage the players. No one can beat casinos.

I take medicine and sometimes I get kind of stunned.

I like betting horses. But when I have nothing to do I come here in this forum.

Cheers

[Andre Chass]

Hi psimoes,
We should all take what gets said on these forums with a grain of salt. The moderator clearly mentions this. Those "curvefitting" results will get found out in the end. I don't expect anyone to believe what I say on this forum unreservedly.

Cheers,
Ricky

That's true!
You guys have to watch out for disturbed people like me. I like to post positive results to make everyone in the forum excited. I do not have much to do here in mental hospital.
Sorry to fool all of you.

[Andre Chass]

I will not post here anymore.

But why? Because I like to be honest and I like honest people (players).

Good luck to everyone!

[cht]

I will not post here anymore.

But why? Because I like to be honest and I like honest people (players).

Good luck to everyone!

Come on Andre, you are sensitive to that curvefitting comment ?

No harm grow some thick skin right. I enjoyed your posts on here. Don't stop now.

[Apolloo]

sorry to hear about this andre... keep your head up dude 

The reason I took to original PB is because there is no opportunity to temp us to chase a losing bet... its a 3 step bet and that's all, TRIGGER comes within 50spins 99.9% of the time and the runs of winning streaks feel great.

roulette is hard game to play with discipline and patience.... I'm still on my break from learning the hard way of not raising my stakes to about 10% of bankroll (I think this is a big MUST for me) I lost that patience and went on to gamble all over the board layout losing my £250 iv made from playing PB. I WILL ALWAYS PLAY WITH UNIT STAKES AT 10% UNITS OF MY BANKROLL FROM NOW ON AND HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN THE SYSTEM.

Cheers

[Joe]

Computer simulations in no way mirror REALITY. Thats why they are an unreliable source for testing a systems value.

That's complete crap. Of course computers can't mirror reality but only in ways which don't matter to the success of the system. A system is just rules and decisions to make, and any computer can be told what these are. And for reasons both I and Ricky have already said, a computer is far more reliable in many ways than any person could be because they don't make mistakes, get emotional etc.