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DoctorSudoku

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 06, 11:43 AM 2018
I will not post here anymore.

But why? Because I like to be honest and I like honest people (players).

Good luck to everyone!



Andre,
I guess I have to tell you this again:

Just IGNORE the trolls.

Do your stuff.

And keep posting your results.

I have been having success with employing methods based on rare patterns since the second half of 2015.

I will keep on playing such methods as long as my bank roll keeps growing.

That is the ONLY thing that matters to me.



Do you think I will stop playing just because these trolls tell me that they don't believe me or that they think my methods don't work?



Hell will have to freeze over before that ever happens.





What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Ricky

Quote from: CoderJoe on Apr 06, 12:15 PM 2018
That's complete crap. Of course computers can't mirror reality but only in ways which don't matter to the success of the system. A system is just rules and decisions to make, and any computer can be told what these are. And for reasons both I and Ricky have already said, a computer is far more reliable in many ways than any person could be because they don't make mistakes, get emotional etc.
Hi Coderjoe, what sentinel is trying to say is if you use RNG (random number generator) to generate your spin data, it does not reflect the reality of a live dealer spinning the wheel. What you can do is look at my test results and extract the spin data from the 4 excel files. Use these in your simulation and then we can analyse the results further.
If you need help in locating the let me know. These spins are from live dealer

Cheers
Ricky

Joe

Ricky, I don't think that's what JL is saying. He saying that "somehow" a simulation is unreliable but won't say how (because he can't). The difference between RNG and real spins isn't so great for a system like this that it makes the difference between winning and losing.

I admit that there are some systems where it does affect the bottom line because RNG is definitely more "random" than actual spins. But these are systems based on the wheel, betting sectors or hot numbers. I've seen some amazing results using real spins where the system tanked using RNG, but have never seen a system based on outside bets where it made a difference, which makes sense if you think about it.
Logic. It's always in the way.

sentinel3

Quote from: CoderJoe on Apr 06, 12:15 PM 2018
That's complete crap. Of course computers can't mirror reality but only in ways which don't matter to the success of the system. A system is just rules and decisions to make, and any computer can be told what these are. And for reasons both I and Ricky have already said, a computer is far more reliable in many ways than any person could be because they don't make mistakes, get emotional etc.
I dont make mistakes and get emotional.

RNGs do not MIRROR a live wheel in any way PERIOD. I have seen things on an RNG you wont see on a real wheel in 10 lifetimes.

Like 6 times on N0.7 🛑IN A ROW🛑

Simulators can never mirror my play.

For example I played two games today. Just two games on two different wheels. It will be 18 hours before I play again. I fell out of the cycle for 18 hours.

How does a MACHINE MIMIC THAT?

🛑🛑🛑IT DOESNT🛑🛑🛑

Thats why I hold a strikerate over 7--1 PERMANENTLY.

You have to do the THE REAL WORK CODERJOE. Simulators are for lazy people. And thats always been the problem. MOST PEOPLE are substituting their laziness and impatience. For ARTIFICIAL RESULTS.

So they walk away from a system like PB which if played as i play it. Would give them financial freedom inside 18 months.

You gave away your own lack of patience and lazyness in one of your posts. CODERJOE.

I have said this a thousand times.

🛑IF YOU CAN WAIT YOU CAN WIN🛑

If you cannot forget it. This game isnt for you.

I will come to Las vegas in 2020. As a millionaire coderjoe. You will be welcome to join me. I will pay for you to be there. And you will see why I became a milloonaire from PB.

And then you will know your simulator did not mirror reality.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: sentinel3 on Apr 06, 05:55 PM 2018


Simulators can never mirror my play.

For example I played two games today.

Just two games on two different wheels.

It will be 18 hours before I play again.

I fell out of the cycle for 18 hours.

How does a MACHINE MIMIC THAT?


🛑🛑🛑IT DOESNT🛑🛑🛑

Thats why I hold a strikerate over 7--1 PERMANENTLY.





JL,
Interesting way of putting it.

I also believe that playing the rare pattern-based methods on  a hit-and-run basis and playing these methods SPARINGLY  are what has made these methods work for me for the last 2-plus years.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 06, 02:31 AM 2018
Ricky

I watched the video. I don't know if it really works.

I prefer betting against:

PBB PBB PB or BPP BPP BP

I'll try using 1, 2 progression to avoid bust my bankroll.

I was using 1, 1, 3, 6 progression

I never say that but sometimes I went to 1, 1, 3, 6, 12 that's craziness

Several times I got close to losing my bankroll. I cant take that much stress anymore. I was lucky to constantly win with this crazy progression. But I have to stop before I burst.

Now I'll try using 1, 2 progression and avoid a heart attack...lol
Hi Andre,
You may be right with this method. I think we need to have the confidence that it is a rare event to experience what you did this week. Yesterday I spent 7 hours till 4am with little sleep waiting for the pattern to form. It finally appeared BPP BPP BPP. So I put 35 euro  30 on P ,5 on Tie and it lost. I said to myself I will commit to the FLATBET plan I advised you. Don't use MARTY. So I WAITED. Had I used MARTY I would have won next bet. So after 7 hours my only chance to bet even after waiting for 9 hands I lost the bet that I could have one using our original progression strategy. So logistically doing it this way is not viable. We would need more betting opportunities in a session to use FLAT BET method or more PATIENCE and time. I will resort to 1-2 and if I feel confident will go a third step.
Today I got up and check the tables. Immediately I saw a BPP start to repeat 2 times. So I tracked and sure enough it got to 8 hands the BPP BPP B so I put 10 euro on for it not to complete the 3rd repeat. And won. I think this is the way to play it. Put small recoverable bets on in case you do get a win. Then if you lose the first few with realtive small bets then go for broke and start putting the big bets on. But only if it will not destroy your bankroll. It has to be all in proportion. Like if you are 10K up you can afford to lose 1K. But if you are 1K up why risk losing all for one bet to make 10 euro risking 1K euro

Cheers,
Ricky

Ricky

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 06, 11:27 PM 2018
Hi Andre,
You may be right with this method. I think we need to have the confidence that it is a rare event to experience what you did this week. Yesterday I spent 7 hours till 4am with little sleep waiting for the pattern to form. It finally appeared BPP BPP BPP. So I put 35 euro  30 on P ,5 on Tie and it lost. I said to myself I will commit to the FLATBET plan I advised you. Don't use MARTY. So I WAITED. Had I used MARTY I would have won next bet. So after 7 hours my only chance to bet even after waiting for 9 hands I lost the bet that I could have one using our original progression strategy. So logistically doing it this way is not viable. We would need more betting opportunities in a session to use FLAT BET method or more PATIENCE and time. I will resort to 1-2 and if I feel confident will go a third step.
Today I got up and check the tables. Immediately I saw a BPP start to repeat 2 times. So I tracked and sure enough it got to 8 hands the BPP BPP B so I put 10 euro on for it not to complete the 3rd repeat. And won. I think this is the way to play it. Put small recoverable bets on in case you do get a win. Then if you lose the first few with realtive small bets then go for broke and start putting the big bets on. But only if it will not destroy your bankroll. It has to be all in proportion. Like if you are 10K up you can afford to lose 1K. But if you are 1K up why risk losing all for one bet to make 10 euro risking 1K euro

Cheers,
Ricky
From 7 hours not seeing a single 3 peater I get two opportunities in 10 minutes including this 2 peater. Decided to go for it to avoid losing another session. Won with the Tie. Always cover the Tie on Big bets this is why. I had 160 euro plus 15 euro on Tie for the start of the 5th repeat. I won on the Tie. Ended up losing 25 euro overall. Better than 125 euro. But could have been worse.
Ok In hindsight FLAT BETTING would have worked here with a bonus Tie and my money back on the second bet risking only 50 euro. But with Hindsight you always makes the right decision  ;D
cheers
Ricky


bikemotorman

I observed today on Celtic BBBBBBBBBBBBPPPPPPP in what the experts call a 50/50 game but that is over the long term, in the short term we can see over 15 player or 15 bankers in a row.
I was saying no way another banker, wow and that was after seven.

It would be wise that we observe and focus is Andre keeping the results in a Matrix be it horizontal or vertically.
I lost some money the other day because I thought the banker would not win again, well now I am going to play if we have a BBB it a 50/50 shot of turning into a BBBB so I will now play to turn in a quad.
The same with player PPP.................PPPP.


Stuart
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sentinel3

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 06, 07:44 PM 2018



JL,
Interesting way of putting it.

I also believe that playing the rare pattern-based methods on  a hit-and-run basis and playing these methods SPARINGLY  are what has made these methods work for me for the last 2-plus years.
ABSOLUTELY DR. But you will never convince the likes of CODERJOE of this fact.

He cannot process this truth. His job is to get the majority to dismiss. Because can you imagine what would happen to the gaming industry if 100,000 people like you and me existed.

Its OVER. So in a sense we need people like CODERJOE. To keep the game rolling for us to profit unhindered.

blueman

Why do you care so much about what CoderJoe (and similar to him) says? Ignore it. :question:

blueman

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 06, 07:44 PM 2018



JL,
Interesting way of putting it.

I also believe that playing the rare pattern-based methods on  a hit-and-run basis and playing these methods SPARINGLY  are what has made these methods work for me for the last 2-plus years.




Progression 1-2 (L-L)
what next?

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: blueman on Apr 07, 01:57 AM 2018



Progression 1-2 (L-L)
what next?




JL and others like to use a recovery progression (like 1 2, then 2 4, etc.).

I do NOT like recovery progressions.

When I get an LL, I just stick with the 1 2.

And if I get another LL, I still stick to the  1 2.

Also, I do NOT increase the dollar amounts of the betting units.

Another very important thing is NOT to keep playing one game after another.

Just play a few games per day or per casino visit.

The biggest mistake you can make is playing one game after another. You are almost guaranteed to hit the individual losses and, in the worst case scenario, a long losing streak.

For instance, I only play a maximum of 4 games of PB (airball wheel) per casino visit. I can only visit casinos on Fri/Sat nights and my average casino visit lasts on average 6 hours.

So I only play 4 games of PB (airball wheel) in 6 hours.

And I do NOT play those 4 games of PB consecutively.

I play 2 games of PB and then I play other methods or do other stuff for the next 1-2 hours and then play the remaining 2 games of PB -- and I am done with PB for roulette for the rest of the night.

I do play 2 games of PB at baccarat also.

Ideally, I would like to reverse the above numbers: 2 games of PB at roulette and 4 games of PB at baccarat per casino visit, but the tables for the latter are always full even well after midnight.

One thing I will warn you about: You play PB or any other roulette method continuously throughout the evening or per casino visit, you will most likely LOSE money.

The key remains this: for the best chance of success playing PB, play it on a hit-and-run basis and play it SPARINGLY.

This approach has been working for me consistently since the summer/fall of 2015.

That is my advice to you.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: bikemotorman on Apr 07, 12:14 AM 2018
I observed today on Celtic BBBBBBBBBBBBPPPPPPP in what the experts call a 50/50 game but that is over the long term, in the short term we can see over 15 player or 15 bankers in a row.
I was saying no way another banker, wow and that was after seven.

It would be wise that we observe and focus is Andre keeping the results in a Matrix be it horizontal or vertically.
I lost some money the other day because I thought the banker would not win again, well now I am going to play if we have a BBB it a 50/50 shot of turning into a BBBB so I will now play to turn in a quad.
The same with player PPP.................PPPP.


Stuart



Stuart,
When you see a streak like the above one developing and you get an overwhelming urge to join the action, you have two stark choices:

either bet for the chop or bet for the streak to continue.

My recommendation would be to bet on the side that is exhibiting the streak.

If you bet on the chop and you win, you win only one unit.

On the other hand, if you bet on the streak to continue and it obliges and keeps going on and on, you can make some serious moolah.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 07, 03:02 AM 2018

you can make some serious moolah.

Mega moolah from a SLUT machine

-:)
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Joe

Quote from: sentinel3 on Apr 06, 05:55 PM 2018Simulators can never mirror my play.

For example I played two games today. Just two games on two different wheels. It will be 18 hours before I play again. I fell out of the cycle for 18 hours.

How does a MACHINE MIMIC THAT?

🛑🛑🛑IT DOESNT🛑🛑🛑

Thats why I hold a strikerate over 7--1 PERMANENTLY.

This is nonsense. If leaving 18 hours between your sessions is important to the success of the system, then why don't you mention it in the rules? And if it's not important it doesn't matter does it? And time isn't important anyway, if it actually meant anything it would be the number of spins between sessions which made the difference, not the number of hours. Suppose you get held up on your way to the casino because your car breaks down and start to play later than you intended. Then you win, have you won because you were late?  ;D

If random events like this make the difference between winning and losing then obviously it's not the system rules which cause you to win. And If playing at random times is important you can still get the computer to mirror them by using an RNG to skip a random number of spins in a file. You can get it to mirror playing at different wheels by using multiple spin files containing spins from different wheels.

Or perhaps you believe that something like scratching your arse after every loss or wearing a green shirt is causing you to win. In that case you've got me; a computer can't mimick that.  ;D

QuoteHe cannot process this truth. His job is to get the majority to dismiss.

I really don't care whether anyone continues to believe that PB is a winning system. What I mind is that you are deliberately trying to convince people that simulations are invalid. I'll leave it up to readers to decide why, but it's not that hard to figure out.  ;)
Logic. It's always in the way.

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