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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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DoctorSudoku

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 07, 06:28 AM 2018
Hi DR
If you have been following my system that I have shared with PB and MV7 coded you will have noticed that it allows you to run multiple bet selection methods. I now have 9 methods coded. I also have a scoring system which I use to select the best method to use based on what the wheel is doing streaks footprints etc
My goal is to gradually add more rules to simulate real conditions. Simulations will then more accurately reflect the success of a method staking levels and progressions.
So once I confirm methods like PB are good candidates to play as part of a complete system i will be doing exactly as you say, play 2 or 3 games of one method and then move to another method

Coderjoe has mentioned himself that the best systems are the ones that play different methods sparingly.

That’s why you cannot play PB continuously without giving it a break and either stop betting or switch systems

Cheers
Ricky



Ricky,
When you have some time, can you please point out where this coder character made the above statement?

I would like to read the entire message for myself just to see what he said exactly when he made the above statement.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Joe

What I actually wrote was this :

QuoteFor your information, I play roulette regularly and am pretty successful, but experience has taught me that you can't win consistently by exclusively using a simple minded system like PB (or in fact, ANY system exclusively). But I am certainly not a "naysayer" who makes blanket statements like "no system can win".

That doesn't mean I endorse hit & run, although Ricky seems to have interpreted it that way.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Ricky

Quote from: CoderJoe on Apr 09, 03:59 AM 2018exclusively using a simple minded system like PB (or in fact, ANY system exclusi
Yep, that's the statement I am referring to and agree with his comment that the best way to WIN consistently from roulette is to vary your play by not sticking with one system. When you mention hit and run, if you are using multiple systems in a continuous mode, you are actually performing a hit&run for that system. If you then change to a different system you will use that system sparingly and then run from that system. The only issue is you are still gambling and exposing yourself to the variance of the wheel. You just need to hope that variance does not catch up to you on that system when you decide to play it. The only guaranteed way not to get caught with a loss is to stop playing completely.

Cheers,
Ricky

Ross

Most important requirement for any system is that it
indicates when not to bet.  Just playing blindly, whether
a long session or short, is a one-way ticket to losing.
Eighty- four and counting.  Is age an excuse?

moles40

You cannot test a system using a computer simulator as it can’t mimic a real roulette wheel.
Coder Joe should be ignored just comes across as a bitter person that’s probably lost thousands at the wheel and hates the fact other people are winning with PB .

Tested it numerous times using LIVE numbers at spielbank always wins above the required hit rate of 7/1 to break even.

Keep using your computer simulations Joey lad  :xd:

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: moles40 on Apr 14, 09:03 AM 2018

You cannot test a system using a computer simulator as it can’t mimic a real roulette wheel.

Coder Joe should be ignored just comes across as a bitter person that’s probably lost thousands at the wheel and hates the fact other people are winning with PB .

Tested it numerous times using LIVE numbers at spielbank always wins above the required hit rate of 7/1 to break even.

Keep using your computer simulations Joey lad  :xd:



As I have said before multiple times on this thread, I have been playing PB with a set of my own tweaks since the second half of 2015 and I have been enjoying a decent amount of success with it (both in roulette and baccarat).

It is one of six rare pattern-based methods that have been working for me.

It does not matter what these computer simulations show.

My bank roll has been consistently increasing since the fall of 2015 and, at the end of the day, that is the ONLY thing that matters to me. 

What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 14, 01:30 PM 2018


As I have said before multiple times on this thread, I have been playing PB with a set of my own tweaks since the second half of 2015 and I have been enjoying a decent amount of success with it (both in roulette and baccarat).

It is one of six rare pattern-based methods that have been working for me.

It does not matter what these computer simulations show.

My bank roll has been consistently increasing since the fall of 2015 and, at the end of the day, that is the ONLY thing that matters to me.

Good for you, but i din't find your name on Forbes for world's most wealthy men.

Didn't you reach the $1M yet?

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 14, 01:38 PM 2018
Good for you, but i din't find your name on Forbes for world's most wealthy men.

Didn't you reach the $1M yet?



Another one of your silly adolescent posts that have been flooding this forum since you became a member here.

You hardly contribute anything of substance here, other than your now famous talent of being able to use gigantic fonts.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 14, 01:46 PM 2018


Another one of your silly adolescent posts that have been flooding this forum since you became a member here.

You hardly contribute anything of substance here, other than your now famous talent of being able to use gigantic fonts.

Learn to accept other's opinion, Is this difficult for you ?

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Lucky7Red

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 14, 01:46 PM 2018
your now famous talent of being able to use gigantic fonts.
Interesting guy he is, just a lucky one in roulette.
when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Lucky7Red on Apr 14, 02:42 PM 2018
Interesting guy he is, just a lucky one in roulette.

Thx lucky7red for the comment

Drsudoku, I am beating roulette every day and online, I don't need to go to b&m casino and Sit hours long waiting for a pattern to repeat !!!

Last month I made $1M profit, it's too far from what you earning with baccarat

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

The General

I hope you're not implying that you made 1Million online.  Not a chance.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Roulettebeater

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

The General

I know of real APs that pay online and they have a very tough time with frozen accounts, bad faith on the part of the casinos, and theft by the casinos.  Claiming to win a million a month online sounds a bit like a baloney festival.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 14, 05:47 PM 2018


Hi cht
Let’s compare pattern attack with pattern breaker played on baccarat. As a baseline we have stated this before. Baccarat is the most even casino game you can play. The original version has no zero to lose e/c bets. In fact you get your money back on a tie. Ps watch out for a variant being introduced in some casinos called baccarat 2-1 where you actually lose your banker/player bets on a tie in exchange for higher returns on player/banker

Secondly. Random is set at the start of the shoe and every hand is predetermined at that point.

Thirdly, if you use a card tracking software you can determine what cards are remaining and eventually you get to a point where certain card combinations are eliminated. So if you have no combination to get to 9 for instance then you can use this information to determine your bets. It’s sort of like card counting in blackjack.

Now, let’s compare PA and PB.
Pattern breaker allows you to bet more often as the 7 patterns usually close within 2/3 of a shoe. It then becomes a factor of luck/chance whether the 8th will follow the 7th. So we need to determine if the random shuffle of a shoe is going to provide the same performance as a roulette wheel which generates a random selection every spin. Now the current version of PB has improved the original concept by using all three E/C bets to determine which one would close first allowing a random choice of betting against the 8th pattern

With pattern attack we are limiting our betting to a fixed pattern. Therefore we eliminate the risk of losing against other patterns. Due to this fact I think this is the main reason why PA performs so well. It avoids you betting whenever the pattern has not formed thus avoiding getting into a losing position. It also inherently enforces patience and discipline in your gambling.

This approach can be used on the original PB played on roulette as well as baccarat. If we were to limit the patterns we would bet against to 2 our of the 8 then we can use the same approach tracking the 7 patterns to close and then only bet against the 8th if it was one of these patterns. This would add an extra condition on the PB rules and reduce the betting opportunities to fewer shoes or spins. It may generate the same win rate also.

Any thoughts and comments welcome

Cheers
Ricky





Ricky,
Since you raised an issue pertinent to PB in the above post (albeit from another thread), it is appropriate that we can try to address it here on the PB thread.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

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