*PATTERN BREAKER*

[F_LAT_INO]

John

thank to sharing your system


my dream is to broke the bank at Monte Carlo!!!

hello  from Nice cote D'azur (France)

Be there 20-29 of august,usually play in Ruhl casino.
After that 7 days M.C.

[GLC]

There also may be an advantage if you alternate this system with another system, like MV5--something that will last 20 spins or more, then come back to Pattern Breaker and start with the newest spins, not with what's on the marquee already.

I agree with you Proof.  My new method of playing roulette is having 5 methods that I am tracking at all times at my airball machine.  I look like a nutty professor to the blokes who just stop by every now and then and throw a bunch of chips all over the table. 

I'm waiting for one of my systems to go through a virtual losing stretch and then I start betting on it with the hopes that the bad stretch won't continue.  So far so good.  I too know that it will not work every time.  But enough to stay ahead.

I'm thinking if Pattern Breaker has a good enough strike rate, it should win with a flat bet.  If it wins with a flat bet, then all bets are off.  It's time to pull out the big guns and forget about progressions.

G

[ScoobyDoo]

Mike,
I have to differ with you about your analogy. Try this on for size.

In 37 spins, approximately 1/3 of the numbers on a roulette wheel don't show up. Now if you keep spinning without stopping, eventually all of the 37 numbers will show but not on the short term.

So by only spinning in 37 number groupings and then stopping, you do not 100% hits on all of the numbers.

I think that playing for short sessions gives you the same type of results.

Another thing that makes playing short sessions less likely to have a losing session is that if you have a high strike-rate such as 40 to 100/1 by jumping in and out makes it less likely to be playing when the losing session is about to happen.

Sure, sometimes you won't be able to "miss" the loss but the answer to winning consistantly is in the strike rate...strike rate...strike rate.

I'm sure there are better examples of the reason why playing in short sessions works so if any of you have a better one, please feel free to post.

Scooby Doo

[jon86]

Sorry, but that's nonsense.  There is no difference between playing continuously for 1000s of spins and breaking up your play into short sessions.  To suggest that you can avoid losing runs by playing short sessions defies all logic.  It could only work if you knew when the bad streaks were coming and quit at the appropriate time - and you can't ever know when that time is.

The point of simulations is to give you an idea of what is likely to happen in the long run, and PLEASE don't tell me that "you only play in the short run", so the long run doesn't matter, that's more absurdity.  Since when does a series of short sessions NOT add up to one LONG session? The outcomes are random so it makes no difference in terms of results whether you take spins from many different tables over many sessions or if you take them "continuously" from one table.

I can't believe you're attacking someone (mr. ore) for showing you the TRUTH and sharing his skills, time, and effort.   

No one has attack mr. Ore here. I told him my oppinion about testing with a big bunch of numbers like he has. And he hasnt the complete system before he post the test here.

I am a newbie here but not in the game!

If you mean that 65000 spins in one test will have the same result as 200 real live spins and 200 real spins later the same day will have the same result its your belive not everyone has the same belives.

Thats why we are here to work togheter and dont fight. I quoted mr. Ore first of reaction why he post a test without the complete system and i told my oppinion.

Now system will win allways and the grail will never exist.

John has learned me a couple great things the last weeks and John is realy on right track with his systems.

I back up any system that wins more session than it lose beacuse then we can overcome the loss with a good MM to work with.

I wanted to help here today since John was away and not to start 3 world war 

We are all in the same boat here and dont need to fight or argue.

Sorry again Mr. Ore if i effended you .

F*** i Su** in englais 

[F_LAT_INO]

Go to a real casino and play and you get real results  






[/quote]Thats what I preach for years.

[Johnlegend]

Sorry, but that's nonsense.  There is no difference between playing continuously for 1000s of spins and breaking up your play into short sessions.  To suggest that you can avoid losing runs by playing short sessions defies all logic.  It could only work if you knew when the bad streaks were coming and quit at the appropriate time - and you can't ever know when that time is.

The point of simulations is to give you an idea of what is likely to happen in the long run, and PLEASE don't tell me that "you only play in the short run", so the long run doesn't matter, that's more absurdity.  Since when does a series of short sessions NOT add up to one LONG session? The outcomes are random so it makes no difference in terms of results whether you take spins from many different tables over many sessions or if you take them "continuously" from one table.

I can't believe you're attacking someone (mr. ore) for showing you the TRUTH and sharing his skills, time, and effort.  

BELIEVE ME THERE IS. I've proven this over many years. And with strong methods like MV5 and PB it becomes very apparent. When you play sessions AT RANDOM your putting RANDOM ON THE SPOT. You want my money? Do this right NOW.

When you play long drawn out sessions you're playing into randoms hands, allowing it to flow and morph and of course it will catch that final pattern more frequently. I've said this before, and proven it for YEARS...

I know when a loss is more likely and when its near IMPOSSIBLE. Virtually ALL my losses came when randoms taken its time to match the firsr SEVEN PATTERNS. 45 OR MORE SPINS. People who play this method over time will come to see very familiar behaviour. Like two or three patterns collecting several repeats during a game. A pattern matched then matched not in the next three spins but the three after that.

All I'm ever concerned about is STRIKERATE and overall P&L. Any method I push from my stable has it or you never hear of it. PATTERN BREAKER has made me some ridiculous profit in relation to what's at risk. And recovery is pretty easy. that's WHAT MAKES IT SPECIAL.

And when you hit a killer streak forget about it. You can turn 14 units into three figures in no time.

[Johnlegend]

Mike,
I have to differ with you about your analogy. Try this on for size.

In 37 spins, approximately 1/3 of the numbers on a roulette wheel don't show up. Now if you keep spinning without stopping, eventually all of the 37 numbers will show but not on the short term.

So by only spinning in 37 number groupings and then stopping, you do not 100% hits on all of the numbers.

I think that playing for short sessions gives you the same type of results.

Another thing that makes playing short sessions less likely to have a losing session is that if you have a high strike-rate such as 40 to 100/1 by jumping in and out makes it less likely to be playing when the losing session is about to happen.

Sure, sometimes you won't be able to "miss" the loss but the answer to winning consistantly is in the strike rate...strike rate...strike rate.

I'm sure there are better examples of the reason why playing in short sessions works so if any of you have a better one, please feel free to post.

Scooby Doo

Well said Scooby...

[GLC]

Here's my hesitancy.  I believe that you can't tell how good a system is until you run it through the 3,000 bet barrier.  If a system withstands 3,000 bets and is ahead by enough units to make the time invested in playing the system worth it, then that system is a very solid systems.  With this and MV5 it takes a very long time to make that many bets.  We can be winning for a long time, but we've really only made a few hundred bets which is too early to make any final decision on.  I have lots of systems that win for a hundred or so bets, but they always have that series from hell that knocks the wind out of you.

I'm hoping along with everybody else, that both of these systems hold up for the long haul.  Two more arrows in the quiver would be nice.

Geo  

[vundarosa]

@JL,
just wondering, why you think this will not work on RNG?!

vundarosa

[jon86]

Mike,
I have to differ with you about your analogy. Try this on for size.

In 37 spins, approximately 1/3 of the numbers on a roulette wheel don't show up. Now if you keep spinning without stopping, eventually all of the 37 numbers will show but not on the short term.

So by only spinning in 37 number groupings and then stopping, you do not 100% hits on all of the numbers.

I think that playing for short sessions gives you the same type of results.

Another thing that makes playing short sessions less likely to have a losing session is that if you have a high strike-rate such as 40 to 100/1 by jumping in and out makes it less likely to be playing when the losing session is about to happen.

Sure, sometimes you won't be able to "miss" the loss but the answer to winning consistantly is in the strike rate...strike rate...strike rate.

I'm sure there are better examples of the reason why playing in short sessions works so if any of you have a better one, please feel free to post.

Scooby Doo

The longer we play we are more target to lose.

The 2 guys ho want to win 10$ each and the first guy deside to bet 10$ and the second guy keep it low to 1$ (even bet).

The Difference between these 2 guys is that the second guy needs to win 9 times more than the first guy to win the same amount. He is more targed to lose than the first ho only bet 1 bet.  ( both can lose off course). but we are her to try win right

Play with grater value and less session a day. (short term)

No system will win the same and work the same everyday.

[jon86]

Go to a real casino and play and you get real results  






that's what I preach for years.

Exactly 

[jon86]

@JL,
just wondering, why you think this will not work on RNG?!

vundarosa

The newbie can answer that ( thats me  )

RNG is not roulette its a program( machine ) that is programed to win to the casino.

Thats my oppinion

Best Jon

[maestro]

thanks for system i just have silly maybe question (my brain not very good) say i have qualified patern to bet against it say LLL we bet HHH and we win on very next spin,question is do you keep playin till pattern LLL hits and you lose or on win that it is,retrack and play the same way...because i try it and won on second spin but kept playn and had 33 spins before roulette hit patern LLL lost but balance was in plus..so how is played(sorry silly me)..thank you

[mr.ore]

Well, it was just a quick test of your system. The tool is not complete yet. There is a little difference because I did not fully understand how to use patterns counted from previous session for another. It always retrack after a win, and take new spins. So it wait for one pattern missing, and then it plays against it. If it wins, it immediately forgets history and retrack until there is another pattern missing, it does not use already recorded data. Another unclear thing is that if we track say 15*3 spins and win on first or second and retrack, whether to wait and start on a spin divisible by three. So it tracks 15*3 spins, bet 1 spin, that's 46 spins, and then spins 47,48,49 are used for tracking a new pattern, then 50,51,52 and so on. Right now it just forgets everything and starts tracking again. Only thing that goes between sessions is breadwinner progression if I enable it. Another difference is it plays all three even chances at once to have more betting opportunities.

For those who thinks that there is differnce if you play continuously or have a break, what do you think of this scenario:

After a sesion played on red/black, next session will be played on low/high. Those two even chances are absolutely independent, so we might try switching them. After that we might play even/odd, then low/high, then again red/black and so on. There should be no difference if you do this change or wait. Another possibility would be to switch between bet selections and play it on top of that, either with it or against it, because one chance CAN dominate for several thousands of spins, so the spins act as if they were not independent, and with many bet selections we might try to avoid it. But what if we seek that actually

[Johnlegend]

Here's my hesitancy.  I believe that you can't tell how good a system is until you run it through the 3,000 bet barrier.  If a system withstands 3,000 bets and is ahead by enough units to make the time invested in playing the system worth it, then that system is a very solid systems.  With this and MV5 it takes a very long time to make that many bets.  We can be winning for a long time, but we've really only made a few hundred bets which is too early to make any final decision on.  I have lots of systems that win for a hundred or so bets, but they always have that series from hell that knocks the wind out of you.

I'm hoping along with everybody else, that both of these systems hold up for the long haul.  Two more arrows in the quiver would be nice.

Geo  

Geo. Ive played nearly 2,500 games in the last two years. PATTERN BREAKER holds up. It isnt just its ability to produce long winning streaks. It how quick you can recover loss. Thats what NEVER registers in people who set out to prove a method loses.

ALL THAT EVER MATTERS IS STRIKERATE. PROFIT TO LOSS.

With MV5 You are risking at base minumum 26 units to win *1* with a method that can win 100s of times in a row, but is not likely to lose twice in a row very often if EVER.

With PATTERN BREAKER, You are risking at base minumum 7 units to win *1* with a method that can WIN MORE THAN 100 times in a row. And rarely lose twice in a row played randomly.

Please take these things onboard before adopting your typical if its loses its no good attitude. These robotic simulators want a test. SHOW US 8 CONSECUTIVE 5 POINTERS. I dare you.