*PATTERN BREAKER*

[strato1985]

yep i've just seen a woman throw live five 19's in a row within that after 3 times the pitboss made a spin an hit 19!! to prove its random

[Johnlegend]

Testing P/F.
At last encountered the session from hell - which I am pleased about because we know that despite the tide helping us, sometimes there can just be too much adversarial stuff going on to make it worthwhile to continue, and before you know it the tide may be going out again and you are in deep quicksand.
I will publish this game later today as some experts out there may be able to suggest how to better handle it.

Firts time in my experience on level one, that two of the EC's had a triple loss, although one would have been bad enough. Now this could have been overcome by taking the progression on to the next triad cycle and thus hitting on the fourth spin with a progression say 1,3,7,15. In both cases this would have won and we could continue on our merry way.

But it was still a shock, and effectively ended the 30 plus streak of EC wins on first level with a loss on 31 and 32 games!

I am a bit uncomfortable with this progression and if I had taken the -11 loss in both cases, we would still have been well up in our multi session progress but it would have severely dented the rate of earning.

What I now need to know is the frequency of such events, so am racing ahead doing a sample of 100 games to just level one and see what the statistical risk actually is and then decide on the best progression(s).

Now on to level two. The nightmare continued and as all EC's were encountering early multiple triple losses ( and in one case the recovery progression would have needed to go to an eighth spin as there was a double triple loss on one EC later - so on these level two plays I kept to the basic 1,3,7 and took the 11 unit loss on the chin)

So I kept a running count of the net outcomes after each cycle of play and we were never in positive territory ( assuming a 1,3,7 progression on level one), however as the tide came in and eventually all three eighth patterns were hit you could see on overview the tide going out again as the cycle moved on!

Actually in spite of all the mayhem the running count including a standard loss on level one if we had stopped at -11 twice, gave two opportunities to get out. And if we had taken profit on level one by taking the progression to step four for level one only, we could have escaped with a profit after 70 odd spins at the standard +20 spins. So that may be good advice, but still wary of level one progression length.

However if we played more conservatively we could have got out at -2 units overall, as there was an earlier -1 as well. The worst low point was -46 units, suggesting playing risk bank needs to be probably 100 units. Also by 120 spin the running score was going down again as the tide went out, ending at -30.

A most unusual session, from a German live casino record.

Plenty to review and reflect on. More testing during today to put level one results in a bigger context.

Will publish these spins ( no working notes)from this game later today.

I am anticipating this session was exceptional.

XXVV I do not advocate multi betting across the EVEN CHANCES. I played five games today for the tagged PATTERN FILLER. The first three were standard fare. Resulting in conclusions within 24 spins of the first SEVEN UNIQUE PATTERNS. THEN CAME THE FOURTH GAME. Here I will post the story of a super sleeper.

HHH--1,2-19-20-28-36-43
LLL--13-29
HLH**SUPER SLEEPER**44
LHL--3-9-12-18---27-41--TWO TRIPPLE LOSSES
HHL--5-6-7-8-24-26-32
LHH--4-14-23-25-40
HLL--10-11-30-33-38-39
LLH--16-17-21-22-31-34-37-42
LL0--35

I only played for four wins then became an observer to a super sleeper. HLH took 132 spins to be decoded by random. This is the second longest game I've ever recorded.

[XXVV]

JL - what was outcome 15 please?
it appears to be missing on your schedule.

[XXVV]

Hi JL once again.

I was working through your results and I guess the outcomes may be adjusted by what happened on cycle #15. Ass uming it was no big deal nevertheless my interpretation of the data is as follows.

Can you please correct me if I am wrong because this is an interesting game and despite what appears to me to be three triple losses, the running count is not so hostile and you quit at various stages ahead.

I gather the eighth pattern was identified at the completion of cycle 16?, after the LLH. and was shown to be HLH at that time?  Or was it identified and then your 132 spins followed?

Either way you would have encountered a triple loss very quickly.

Or does your progression cover the 4th or 5th spin play needed?

Before I assume too much I had better check with you first though! What do you recommend as the best progression in this style of play?

What interested me is that a player in this case could have soldiered on as the sleeper was reluctant to appear and the triple loss appearances could have been absorbed, and would have achieved a positive outcome despite the time taken!

Funnily enough, with my own way of nullifying zero, my groupings would have differed from cycle 35 onward and by spin 132 the sleeper still would not have been hit!!! ( Did you record any subsequent spins ( lol)!)

Cheers

[Johnlegend]

JL - what was outcome 15 please?
it appears to be missing on your schedule.

Sorry XXVV it was H0L--15

[Johnlegend]

Hi JL once again.

I was working through your results and I guess the outcomes may be adjusted by what happened on cycle #15. arse uming it was no big deal nevertheless my interpretation of the data is as follows.

Can you please correct me if I am wrong because this is an interesting game and despite what appears to me to be three triple losses, the running count is not so hostile and you quit at various stages ahead.

I gather the eighth pattern was identified at the completion of cycle 16?, after the LLH. and was shown to be HLH at that time?  Or was it identified and then your 132 spins followed?

Either way you would have encountered a triple loss very quickly.

Or does your progression cover the 4th or 5th spin play needed?

Before I assume too much I had better check with you first though! What do you recommend as the best progression in this style of play?

What interested me is that a player in this case could have soldiered on as the sleeper was reluctant to appear and the triple loss appearances could have been absorbed, and would have achieved a positive outcome despite the time taken!

Funnily enough, with my own way of nullifying zero, my groupings would have differed from cycle 35 onward and by spin 132 the sleeper still would not have been hit!!! ( Did you record any subsequent spins ( LoL)!)

Cheers

Yes XXVV, HLH was identified as the eigth and final pattern at the end of the 16th cycle of three spins. It took a total of 132 spins for HLH to form from the very start of the game. As you observed random was in a very repetitive flow. I have rarely seen so many back to back formations of the same pattern.

I use the GRAND MARTI on two levels XXVV, on my first attack which in this case would have been CYCLE 17 im at my most aggressive using 4,12,28. for subsequent attacks I drop to 1,3,7

[Johnlegend]

Yep i've just seen a woman throw live five 19's in a row within that after 3 times the pitboss made a spin an hit 19!! to prove its random

Or was that to prove the magnets were working lol. Where was this Strato18?

[XXVV]

Thanks JL for that information. I realise you discard a triad when zero is involved.

Out of interest, and because it is my own training, I approach the sequence a little differently and like anything in chaos theory, a little change to that butterfly breeze over the Amazon can have an effect that may contribute (topical) to a tornado in the Midwest.

I just make zero invisible so I carry on as if it wasn't there ( although as I have said I hedge it VERY aggressively as a game within a game no what technique I am using.

In this case the effect would have been profound, and I trust I have understood your directions but look at this....

14  LHH
15  HLL
16  LHL
17  LHL
18  HLH    and this becomes the 7th, so actually now LLH becomes eighth.
19  HHH
20  HHL   oops
21  LHL
22  LHL
23  HHH
24  HLL
25  HHH
26  HLL
27  HLH
28  HHL   ouch
29  LLH    !!! - much sooner this way but just after a triple loss.
30  LLL
31  LHH
32  HLH
33  LLL
34  LHL ...... etc

I know its rather academic but it demonstrates an interesting principle.
Thanks for the extra information.
PS sorry for some silly typos earlier - working by candlelight!

[XXVV]

This was a game that has caused some trouble..

German casino live 120 spins- all EC were played

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33  .... 120 spins

[Johnlegend]

Thanks JL for that information. I realise you discard a triad when zero is involved.

Out of interest, and because it is my own training, I approach the sequence a little differently and like anything in chaos theory, a little change to that butterfly breeze over the Amazon can have an effect that may contribute (topical) to a tornado in the Midwest.

I just make zero invisible so I carry on as if it wasn't there ( although as I have said I hedge it VERY aggressively as a game within a game no what technique I am using.

In this case the effect would have been profound, and I trust I have understood your directions but look at this....

14  LHH
15  HLL
16  LHL
17  LHL
18  HLH    and this becomes the 7th, so actually now LLH becomes eighth.
19  HHH
20  HHL   oops
21  LHL
22  LHL
23  HHH
24  HLL
25  HHH
26  HLL
27  HLH
28  HHL   ouch
29  LLH    !!! - much sooner this way but just after a triple loss.
30  LLL
31  LHH
32  HLH
33  LLL
34  LHL ...... etc

I know its rather academic but it demonstrates an interesting principle.
Thanks for the extra information.
PS sorry for some silly typos earlier - working by candlelight!

I think Zero actually works for us instead of against for both the Pattern Breakers and MV5 If zero was responsible for that super sleeper, cool. I had another sleeper today not as good as HLH. LLH took 89 spins to say hello. There were three Zeros in that game.

[warrior]

I think Zero actually works for us instead of against for both the Pattern Breakers and MV5 If zero was responsible for that super sleeper, cool. I had another sleeper today not as good as HLH. LLH took 89 spins to say hello. There were three Zeros in that game.

with this are you betting for or against the8 pattern?

[strato1985]

paddy power john , im on with you boys now come away from william hill

something i probably will never witness ever again so its no worry to be fair, spin 4 pitboss span another 19 then again after coupier span 19 for the 5th time

[Johnlegend]

with this are you betting for or agaist the8 pattern?

For Warrior its fantastic.

[warrior]

For Warrior its fantastic.

do you bet for all 3 spins ?

[Johnlegend]

do you bet for all 3 spins ?

No you bet until you win and stop.