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*PATTERN BREAKER*

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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XXVV

I have completed enough tests to have an overview here and am happy to publish this short summary, and others may choose to take this further. I have other work to move on to and overall I think these methods are very useful and as long as care is taken they offer genuine timely opportunities for profit, and as earlier said are ingenious in their design.

For  clarity I have modelled these results into a 100 game format, my own samples being multiples of this.

These show a small postive return/ near break even overall which any set of good methods can mirror. Key is always in the timing of when to get and when to get out.

In 100 games....

outcomes  for first spin win, second spin win, third spin win or loss.

    49     26     13     12 losses

these tend to follow theoretical distribution principles

The 12 losses are made up as follows...

failures on 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th spin outcomes

    5     3     2     1     1


Here are the results for the first ten sessions played, with the first nine being a lot smoother than the last. Following that I played other sessions with patchy results but feel that the principle of a method A and method B is worthwhile, as long as you are suitably prepared for sudden reversals, and act accordingly.

Method A takes a 3 step progression and stops after the first win, targetting the first triad of EC outcomes after the eighth pattern has been deduced. This is playing for the same as the eighth, ie the pattern filler.

Of course it makes no difference whether you play just H/L EC outcomes or all EC's but they should be kept in distinct columns and there may be an argument for separate banks, but in the longer view it actually makes no difference, as sometimes a running EC total ( one bank only)  win ( say +17)can be a good signal to take your money and run ( applies to A and B combined)

Method B goes out on a limb a little further, and its a risk and reward approach. You take the first three or four outcomes that follow from the deduction of the eighth pattern and accumulate. Or you can go further on the branch.

Sometimes you can have runs of ten or more, sometimes you can hit a twin set of triple losses ( see data above). It can happen anytime whether early in the spin sequence or later but often you can note when you keep a running tally between EC columns that the tide comes in and goes out, especially after the eighth pattern has been materialised as a triad, or especially  by the second time its hit.

I played out one session on 3 EC columns and had a peak result at +39 units but remember 22 units can quickly evaporate should two triple losses occur in the same cycles ( has happened a few times!).

Generally I try to target +20 units as a suitable gain and then get out.

Only in one session of the ten was the result always negative, and the exit was a matter of mitigating the disaster and getting out at -11 after a rebound from -49!!!

In practical fast play it may pay to take the advice of JL and stick to H/L alone, but thats a subjective call and depends on your ability to manage the controls and make the decisions  fast enough!  These are all 3 x EC results...

Session     method A     method B

1                  +6              +17

2                  +5              +21

3                  +4               +22

4                  +7               +19

5                   +4               +17

6                   +5               +18

7                    +4              +21

8                    +4              +17

9                    +7              +23

10                  -20              -11


o/a                 +26             +164      approx 1000 spins gross

More testing is needed and I suggest that in the long term PB results may match PF results. I even thought of playing then simultaneously, sort of Red and Black at the same time so when a streak happens you catch it from the outset. A triple loss for one, is  potential triple win for the other but it doesnt quite work out like that as we stop at the first win.

As earlier stated I play a simple 1,3,7 (11 unit total), for +1,+2,+3 win results.

Hope this helps and thanks so much to JL for his ideas and consistently fast answers to queries. Cheers X.


warrior

Quote from: Johnlegend on Apr 21, 01:12 PM 2011
No you bet until you win and stop.
thats what i thought thanks.

sarif

is there an excel to play this system

Johnlegend

Quote from: sarif on Apr 22, 04:57 PM 2011
Is there an excel to play this system
Yes Sarif its called pen and paper. Well thanks to XXVV for his time testing the pattern breaker concept, it may indeed be an even pan for and against that FINAL PATTERN in the longrun. Here is the longest game in my records to illustrate the potential for playing AGAINST PATTERN 8 follow by a game I played yesterday for PATTERN 8.

THE LONGEST GAME EVER AGAINST
HHH-1,5,12,16,19,35,36,37,38
LLL-11,15,18
HLH-3,6,7,25,30
LHL-10,20,22,34,41,42
HHL-2,31,40,43,
LHH***46
HLL-13,14,17,27,29,45
LLH-4,8,9,21,23,24,26,32,44
0LH-28
L0L-33
H0L-39

It took random 138 spins to decode THE 8TH PATTERN. At the same time its complete reverse HLL made 6 appearances from its formation. Betting against the final pattern in this case would have resulted in a fantastic 32 consecutive winning cycles. This isnt an isolated occurance streaks in excess of 20 happen quite often.

BETTING FOR THE 8TH PATTERN
HHH-5-13,24
LLL-4,6,7,21,22,28,31
HLH-2,11,14,19,23,
LHL-12,20,29,35
HHL-1,3,26,27,32,33
LHH-10,15,16,25
HLL***36
LLH-9,17,30,34
HL0-8
L0H-18

Betting for PATTERN 8 resulted in another impressive winning streak although there were 3 reverse losses in the 24 cycle run. Either way you play this method has merit. And profit making potential, before the elastic forces at work pull that final pattern into place. This is your oppurtunity to make profit.


Gordonline

Hi JL

Had a good session with PB Filler and was betting for the 8th Pattern to come in, which was HHH and it won 11 sessions consecutively, and only produced it twice in 84 spins
(Session 22 & 28) on a live wheel (Progression 1,3,7) Profit +19 Units

Sessions won on 1st Bet = 5
Sessions won on 2nd Bet = 3
Sessions won on 3rd Bet = 3

Sessions Lost = 0

I was monitoring R/B and that also would of won all 11 sessions

Great strategy John keep up the good work  :thumbsup:
Dream as if you will "Live Forever" Live each day as if its your "Last"

Johnlegend

Quote from: Gordonline on Apr 25, 07:13 PM 2011
Hi JL

Had a good session with PB Filler and was betting for the 8th Pattern to come in, which was HHH and it won 11 sessions consecutively, and only produced it twice in 84 spins
(Session 22 & 28) on a live wheel (Progression 1,3,7) Profit +19 Units

Sessions won on 1st Bet = 5
Sessions won on 2nd Bet = 3
Sessions won on 3rd Bet = 3

Sessions Lost = 0

I was monitoring R/B and that also would of won all 11 sessions

Great strategy John keep up the good work  :thumbsup:
Thankyou Gordonline, well done for sticking witb it. Many have passed this by whiche is a shame as it really is one of roulettes achilles heels. Ill be making profit with this as long as I play.

Hermes

The only Achilles Heel I see is the progression 1-3-7. When you will be playing D'Alembert: Loss +1 unit, Win -1 unit you will be much better on and with huge security.
Hermes

ophis

Multi Systems Tracker
➨ [url="//rmst.forumer.com"]RMST.forumer.com[/url]

Gordonline


Thanks Ophis, will report back after some tests  :thumbsup:

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Dream as if you will "Live Forever" Live each day as if its your "Last"

Rolletti

Ophis

the tool is very helpful, but unfortunately there are some serious bugs in the code.

So far I just tested PB4 in detail:

After loosing first progression the tool does the traking not correct and it gives instructions to wrong bets, with wrong bet sizes or does not give instruction to bet when it should.

Maybe u can have a look into it.

We appreciate ur efforts.

ophis

Quote from: Rolletti on Apr 30, 03:45 PM 2011
Ophis

the tool is very helpful, but unfortunately there are some serious bugs in the code.

So far I just tested PB4 in detail:

After losing first progression the tool does the traking not correct and it gives instructions to wrong bets, with wrong bet sizes or does not give instruction to bet when it should.

Maybe you can have a look into it.

We appreciate your efforts.

Show me some example numbers and what exactly is going wrong.
Because this "After losing first progression the tool does the traking not correct and it gives instructions to wrong bets" tells me nothing to be honest. Recovery progression is working fine.
Multi Systems Tracker
➨ [url="//rmst.forumer.com"]RMST.forumer.com[/url]

Johnlegend

Quote from: ophis on May 01, 09:48 AM 2011
Show me some example numbers and what exactly is going wrong.
Because this "After losing first progression the tool does the traking not correct and it gives instructions to wrong bets" tells me nothing to be honest. Recovery progression is working fine.
An interesting game I played yesterday delivered 7 of the 8 possible patterns in 21 spins. That was the red light to me to go heavy AND cover the zero on spins 22---24. And of course I won. You don't often get this but when it happens random has invited you to a certain win. Here is the complete session.

H L  L--1
L L L--2
L H H--3
H L H--4
H H L--5
H H H--6
L H L--7
L H L-----WIN BET 2 PLUS 9 UNITS (STAKING 11,22,47)
H H H
H L H
H H L
L H L
H H H
H H L
L H L
H H L
L L H----Pattern 8 in cycle 18--spins 52--54


Proofreaders2000

Welcome back JohnLegend  :thumbsup:

I am convinced that PB can beat random consistently.  However, it never occured to me how difficult it is to find an honest wheel--not even in reputable places where the wheel is usually honest that the dealer doesn't "tip" the odds in their favor (especially when there's a crowd betting).

furple

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on May 08, 02:50 PM 2011


However, it never occured to me how difficult it is to find an honest wheel--not even in reputable places where the wheel is usually honest that the dealer doesn't "tip" the odds in their favor (especially when there's a crowd betting).

Please Explain............. :question:

Kingspin

How can any human being spin a ball round 37 numbers to tip advantage to the casino , personally I think it impossible.  The dealer is just a spinner not a psychic!
You cant always loose , but when you do loose you will win it all back.

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