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*PATTERN BREAKER*

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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Johnlegend

Quote from: Gordonline on Jun 11, 07:34 AM 2011
Hi John

As you know I'm a fan of Pattern Breaker, and last night I had an interesting game where the 8th pattern was HLL but also the pattern I was betting for (LHH the opposite) had only appeared once so the corrective forces were working even more powerfully with 9 winning streaks before I had to unfortunately go out

I thought it was worth mentioning, as this scenario is probably the best one to have

Gordon  ;D
Yes Gordon thats what is fascinating with this method. With Pattern 4 the game is won or lost in 3 spins. With PATTERN BREAKER. You could potentially win 25 plus times in one game. I have seen it several times. With about 8 winning cycles being the normal good winning streak. I think this is the value of that WAIT with this method. To learn how to harness a potential goldmine of wins.

Gordonline


Hi John

Played my usual P4 session tonight with +9 units on all 3 E/C's and then monitored the wheel for Pattern Breaker and took a bit of a hit -26 Units

I missed my bet on the 1st game for H/L (which would of won) then won my 2nd game but my 3rd lost due to the Zero and then had a double loss on games 4 & 5, the reason I bet on game 5 was to bet the last pattern was not going to repeat, but it did, I then bet it wouldn't repeat again and I only won on the 3rd bet of that sequence phew !!!! (I was down about 42 units but clawed back 25 of them and decided that I would call it quits on H/L

I monitored O/E's as well and again I was hit ny zero twice in 4 games and that was the final straw, better quit and take a little set back rather than chase the losses

That is my first losing session in about 3 weeks, I'll take that  ;D

Gordon
Dream as if you will "Live Forever" Live each day as if its your "Last"

Johnlegend

Quote from: Gordonline on Jun 11, 07:01 PM 2011
Hi John

Played my usual P4 session tonight with +9 units on all 3 E/C's and then monitored the wheel for Pattern Breaker and took a bit of a hit -26 Units

I missed my bet on the 1st game for H/L (which would of won) then won my 2nd game but my 3rd lost due to the Zero and then had a double loss on games 4 & 5, the reason I bet on game 5 was to bet the last pattern was not going to repeat, but it did, I then bet it wouldn't repeat again and I only won on the 3rd bet of that sequence phew !!!! (I was down about 42 units but clawed back 25 of them and decided that I would call it quits on H/L

I monitored O/E's as well and again I was hit ny zero twice in 4 games and that was the final straw, better quit and take a little set back rather than chase the losses

That is my first losing session in about 3 weeks, I'll take that  ;D

Gordon
Hi Gordon you know I only play PATTERN BREAKER with HIGH AND LOW AND NEVER bet against the 8th pattern twice if I lose, its the last one to the party and often it wants to be the first one through the door at the next party. Had you covered the zero the night would have been very different. The brilliant XXVV said something recently about Zero being the only thing that can upset these methods from time to time after Clothdog had a similar bad session.

I play for 5-20 units a game depending on the method. Next year when I've got a small fortune on the line. Be sure the green goblin gets covered. So with the PATTERN BREAKER family house edge cannot defeat you but it can give you annoying setbacks from time to time.

With the new CODE 4 for example, in my 120 games ZERO has hit 7 times. If I had zero covered my profit margin would be around double what it is already. So XXVV has a very strong point here. We treat Zero as a little jackpot bonus instead of an arch enemy.

So you started the session well with your classic one, two and three with PATTERN 4. Then had a bad one with PATTERN BREAKER. I'm playing PATTERN 4 like you now Gordon but without the third stage RED and BLACK. And its working.

PATTERN BREAKER is a strange animal, but learn its nature its a goldmine. Yesterday for the first time I bet on several cycles after the 7TH PATTERN had formed and heres why.

I had been recording spins and the first game lost. I wasn't playing just recording. So I played the very next game and won. BUT, the 8th pattern formed the very next cycle. So I played back to back games. And bet for three winning cycles and won. THE 8TH PATTERN. Finally came in on the 7th cycle. I have seen this three game breakdown so many times its time to start taking advantage of it.

There is a skill of JUDGEMENT in this game that makes all the difference. THINK about what's happening, otherwise you miss a lot of potential if you just go through the motions like some slot playing zombie. Remember ROULETTE is easier to beat than POKER. And I'm not bluffing. ;D

LuckyLucy

hmmm....I like this, only problem ive been having is that it takes so long for a all the variations to go through, but I do like, congrats JL, legend by legend by nature  ;)

ok just a thought, dont know if we can go anywhere with this, but what are the chances of your matrix coming out in exact order?  I realise over thousands of spins it would eventually, however none of us play for thousands of spins in one sitting do we?  So what I was thinking is, would therebe a way to utilise JLs pattern so we can bet quicker and get out quicker!

So for instance the combo as you set them out Mr JL

HHH
LLL
HLH
LHL
HHL
LLH
HLL
LHH

Is there anyway we can harness this and use it to break the pattern? Any thoughts? Just trying to get your creative juices flowing, as you all know far more about roulette than me! If im talking rubbish then feel free to say! lol

Lucy x 

Halba1

Just too many spins in pattern breaker. more like pattern fizzer don't mind the pun

there is no additional advantage for betting for or against a pattern, its gamblers fallacy

LuckyLucy

oh well! Just trying to think outside the box and hopefully someone might get a spark from one of my crackpot ideas! lol

Johnlegend

Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 14, 08:06 AM 2011
Hmmm....I like this, only problem I've been having is that it takes so long for a all the variations to go through, but I do like, congrats JL, legend by legend by nature  ;)

ok just a thought, don't know if we can go anywhere with this, but what are the chances of your matrix coming out in exact order?  I realise over thousands of spins it would eventually, however none of us play for thousands of spins in one sitting do we?  So what I was thinking is, would therebe a way to utilise JLs pattern so we can bet quicker and get out quicker!

So for instance the combo as you set them out Mr JL

HHH
LLL
HLH
LHL
HHL
LLH
HLL
LHH

Is there anyway we can harness this and use it to break the pattern? Any thoughts? Just trying to get your creative juices flowing, as you all know far more about roulette than me! If I'm talking nonsense then feel free to say! LoL

Lucy x  
Very good Lucy the thought has crossed my mind before. Id say take HHH LLL OUT of the equation and it would be worth testing, please elaborate on your thoughts Lucy. Are you suggesting we bet against each pattern in the order I have them written. Or do we wait for random to form a pattern and then bet it doesn't form the next pattern under it?

What I've be doing lately is studying the behaviour of the second to last pattern. THE SEVENTH PATTERN. It offers a bonus bet and it rarely takes more that 20 cycles (60 spins) to be formed. My thinking is when the first six patterns have formed. Lets say we are left with LHL LLH. We wait until the first two steps of one of the remaining pattern forms. Then attempt to finish it. So if we had LH... We would bet for L to complete the seventh pattern.

My tests show the average number of bets to nail that seventh pattern is *3*. So there is something there I think. But please do go into more detail Lucy about how you would execute your idea.

Regards JL.

Johnlegend

Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 14, 08:26 AM 2011
Just too many spins in pattern breaker. more like pattern fizzer don't mind the pun

there is no additional advantage for betting for or against a pattern, its gamblers fallacy
Halba you are getting more negative by the day. If there is no advantage we wouldnt be winning systemstically. I wouldnt have winning streaks over 25 in a row for Pattern Breaker. Random has achilles heels. Being forced to produce a three spin pattern on the spot is one of them.

You are coming from the classic school of cant wait wont wait to make the moolah. That attitude is doomed. Roulette is a very beatable game. the price to the player is PATIENCE. Little wonder why it is safe for generations to come. The one thing required to beat it is the very thing 99.9% of people do not have.

Proofreaders2000

JohnLegend how much of a bankroll do you recommed for this system?

LuckyLucy

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 14, 08:42 AM 2011
Very good Lucy the thought has crossed my mind before. Id say take HHH LLL OUT of the equation and it would be worth testing, please elaborate on your thoughts Lucy. Are you suggesting we bet against each pattern in the order I have them written. Or do we wait for random to form a pattern and then bet it doesn't form the next pattern under it?

What I've be doing lately is studying the behaviour of the second to last pattern. THE SEVENTH PATTERN. It offers a bonus bet and it rarely takes more that 20 cycles (60 spins) to be formed. My thinking is when the first six patterns have formed. Lets say we are left with LHL LLH. We wait until the first two steps of one of the remaining pattern forms. Then attempt to finish it. So if we had LH... We would bet for H to complete the seventh pattern.

My tests show average number of bets to nail that seventh pattern is *3*. So there is something there I think. But please do go into more detail Lucy about how you would execute your idea.

Regards JL.


Thank you for your kind words JL!

Are you reading my mind? I also thought about taking the HHH LLL out of the pattern.  I've noticed strings of numbers do come out HHH LLL quite often and 6 into a progression is quite steep!

Ok, I had thought of both variations you have suggested, either betting against the pattern forming exactly as you have it written down, or that the previous pattern doesn't form again underneath.

Alternativly I was thinking that the more complex the pattern, the more unlikely random will copy it verbatim. So for instance as in your pattern:
HLH
LHL
HHL
LLH

if we could devise some way of using this patttern that didn't have a crazy progression? just a thought. On a side note, would it be possible to make a variation on this to work on the columns/dozens?  

Johnlegend

Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 14, 09:07 AM 2011

Thank you for your kind words JL!

Are you reading my mind? I also thought about taking the HHH LLL out of the pattern.  I've noticed strings of numbers do come out HHH LLL quite often and 6 into a progression is quite steep!

Ok, I had thought of both variations you have suggested, either betting against the pattern forming exactly as you have it written down, or that the previous pattern doesn't form again underneath.

Alternativly I was thinking that the more complex the pattern, the more unlikely random will copy it verbatim. So for instance as in your pattern:
HLH
LHL
HHL
LLH

if we could devise some way of using this patttern that didn't have a crazy progression? just a thought. On a side note, would it be possible to make a variation on this to work on the columns/dozens?  
We will leave dozens and columns for another day Lucy. Here is what I think. To take on an 18 spin pattern is too much. But to oppose the thirs step of a pattern isnt. Now ive seen it all with Pattern Breaker Lucy over the three years Ive tested and played it.

Ive seen in no particular order, random form the first seven patterns one after the other. BUT NEVER 8. It happenned yesterday for ODD AND EVEN. It then took random 25 cycles, 75 spins to form the 8th pattern.

So Random can indeed knock out 7 of the 8 combimations, its the 8th one it struggles with. But I think it would be impossible for it to knock the patterns out exactly as I have them written. Thats why youve got me curious Lucy.

Putting our heads together we may turn a good method into an invincible GRAIL. Keep it coming. Random doesnt like precise order. It can only fluke it once in a large pool.

Johnlegend

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 14, 09:06 AM 2011
JohnLegend how much of a bankroll do you recommed for this system?
I recommend 25 times your minumum level Proof. So if thats 1,2,4. 200 units is fine.

LuckyLucy

Hmm...yep two heads are better than one so to speak, ill get thinking of some more ideas

Johnlegend

Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 14, 11:19 AM 2011
Hmm...yep two heads are better than one so to speak, ill get thinking of some more ideas
What I used to do some years ago, before I really had a method was walk into a casino and think of a three spin pattern then bet against it with consistent success. The idea was the chances of you matching a three spin pattern as soon as you think of it are slim. The chances of it being a non match aren't.

So what I am going to do is test what would happen if I worked my way through paterns 3--8 as I've written them. And oppose each one for a continous 18 spins stop at a win for each one and let the rest of the sequence complete virtually should I win the first or second step. See how many times I do or don't make it through without a loss. Ill keep you posted.

LuckyLucy

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 14, 02:46 PM 2011
What I used to do some years ago, before I really had a method was walk into a casino and think of a three spin pattern then bet against it with consistent success. The idea was the chances of you matching a three spin pattern as soon as you think of it are slim. The chances of it being a non match aren't.

So what I am going to do is test what would happen if I worked my way through paterns 3--8 as I've written them. And oppose each one for a continous 18 spins stop at a win for each one and let the rest of the sequence complete virtually should I win the first or second step. See how many times I do or don't make it through without a loss. Ill keep you posted.

Nice idea JL!

Im buzzing now, im sure that all of us as a forum can really work as one on breaking the wheel!

lucy x

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