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*PATTERN BREAKER*

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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Robeenhuut

Yeah JL

Like Bettor 110/1 strike rate reported here - barely breaking even... but you will dismiss it as not playing your style.
There is simply no arguing with you - intriseco ran a simulation here of CODE4 played hit and run showing just average results but it was of course not the  way how you play it.
Lets close the book on your methods - they work 4 you 4 some reason.... Great
We are just wasting our time here.

Regards
Matt

Johnlegend

Quote from: Robeenhuut on May 26, 09:36 AM 2012
Yeah JL

Like Bettor 110/1 strike rate reported here - barely breaking even... but you will dismiss it as not playing your style.
There is simply no arguing with you - intriseco ran a simulation here of CODE4 played hit and run showing just average results but it was of course not the  way how you play it.
Lets close the book on your methods - they work 4 you 4 some reason.... Great
We just wasting our time here.

Regards
Robeenhuut you are becoming bitter. What do you want me to say? Did Intriseco garner those results by going to several tables in a casino or online. Did he put in a year plus of dedicated play to garner over 7,500 real results? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? If he did he has something to say to me. As does Bettor27. You fold Robeenhuut. You bend. You don't stay the course. Then you take a simulation which is not roulette in any shape or form understand that fast. And try to nonsense my hard work with it. All cop outs will do that. You want to perpetuate the myth this games for fools, go ahead.

The people who put the work in and PM me with positive results tell me another story. And by the way even if it were 110/1 that's positive numbers Robeenhuut. 80/1 is your risk. So I am getting 299/1 at present that means I am a liar. At the end of the day you will do what you do and believe what you believe. I don't kid myself about that. But until someone collects their results in the same manner I collect mine what comparison have we really got??

Theres no room for lazy people in this game that needs to be realized fast.

Robeenhuut

Hello Jl

Im tired of arguing with you and i will give you benefit of the doubt  ;D
Just 2 questions - what happened 2 your second update of  Code 4 Reverse Attack?
As far as i can remember you reported 3 or 4 loses in 30 or 40 games. I can not find it.
And whats your comment on testing results of your last method?  I reported positive
figures but i cover 0. What about other guys?

Regards
Matt

Johnlegend

Quote from: Robeenhuut on May 26, 10:12 AM 2012
Hello Jl

I'm tired of arguing with you and i will give you benefit of the doubt  ;D
Just 2 questions - what happened 2 your second update of  Code 4 Reverse Attack?
As far as i can remember you reported 3 or 4 loses in 30 or 40 games. I can not find it.
And what's your comment on testing results of your last method?  I reported positive
figures but i cover 0. What about other guys?

Regards
I have updated the thread I lost 5 games in the last hundred. Disappointing but its early days and still positive numbers whch is all that matters.

Proofreaders2000

I've been thinking on this system and suggest (I understand PB is on Ophis' MST Tracker)
you have some 15 or 20 types of even chance selections undergoing the Pattern Breaker process.  This way a bettor can have faster triggers and know exactly which even chance selection is winning the most at the moment.

---15 or 20 types of even chance selections: there are all kinds of ways to divide 36 numbers into two halves.

vundarosa

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 03, 01:10 AM 2012
I've been thinking on this system and suggest (I understand PB is on Ophis' MST Tracker)
you have some 15 or 20 types of even chance selections undergoing the Pattern Breaker process.  This way a bettor can have faster triggers and know exactly which even chance selection is winning the most at the moment.

---15 or 20 types of even chance selections: there are all kinds of ways to divide 36 numbers into two halves.

---------------

great thinking  :thumbsup:

vundarosa

Proofreaders2000

I also would like to present the idea of a Pattern Breaker tracker that allows you to choose four or five of your favorite even chance selections: odd/even high/low red/black, 18 number right of zero vs the remainder...then creates more even chance bet selections continuously based on 18 unique numbers vs the other half (as new spin values come in).  The tracker should be able to save the previous spins from past games for use in new sessions.

Johnlegend

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 03, 01:26 PM 2012
I also would like to present the idea of a Pattern Breaker tracker that allows you to choose four or five of your favorite even chance selections: odd/even high/low red/black, 18 number right of zero vs the remainder...then creates more even chance bet selections continuously based on 18 unique numbers vs the other half (as new spin values come in).  The tracker should be able to save the previous spins from past games for use in new sessions.
I dont know what this love affair with trackers is. The best tracker is you pencil and paper. And just marvel at randoms difficulty in filling the missing link on the spot an average of 12/1 Hit and Run. Including first game winning streaks over 50.

Proofreaders2000

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 08, 01:37 PM 2012
I don't know what this love affair with trackers is. The best tracker is you pencil and paper. And just marvel at randoms difficulty in filling the missing link on the spot an average of 12/1 Hit and Run. Including first game winning streaks over 50.

Trackers are for bettors that can play at a trustworthy casino online.  My aim is to make Pattern Breaker more efficient---instead of just one trigger, having 10 or 15 triggers (in which the tracker would show you the most profitable one atm.)

Johnlegend

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 08, 07:07 PM 2012

Trackers are for bettors that can play at a trustworthy casino online.  My aim is to make Pattern Breaker more efficient---instead of just one trigger, having 10 or 15 triggers (in which the tracker would show you the most profitable one atm.)
10 to 15 triggers at once isnt possible Proof. Since there are three even chances. I play High Low and Odd Even simultaneously. And its rare to lose them both in the same session. that's the power of the method that rock solid consistency.

Contrary to mass thinking you don't even have to have a statistical/mathematical edge with a method to profit. You have to identify something that happens so rarely you can raise stakes dramatically to recover loss and end the day in profit overall. Example

Pattern breaker requires seven wins to match every loss to level stakes. But even if I have a day when it only delivers 4/1 or 5/1 I will profit by raising stakes on the second game. This power point in a method is vastly underrated and passed up.

As soon as most players don't consistently win a lot more than they are risking with a method. They drop it. I have a first game winning streak with Pattern Breaker of 53 now and counting. that's another area of thought overlooked. The point I'm making is simple. It is possible to profit from this game. Even when your strikerate is in negative figures. This thinking about the necessity to have an edge is vastly overrated at the expense of consistent overall progress.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 09, 02:54 AM 2012
10 to 15 triggers at once isnt possible Proof. Since there are three even chances. I play High Low and Odd Even simultaneously. And its rare to lose them both in the same session. that's the power of the method that rock solid consistency.

Contrary to mass thinking you don't even have to have a statistical/mathematical edge with a method to profit. You have to identify something that happens so rarely you can raise stakes dramatically to recover loss and end the day in profit overall. Example

Pattern breaker requires seven wins to match every loss to level stakes. But even if I have a day when it only delivers 4/1 or 5/1 I will profit by raising stakes on the second game. This power point in a method is vastly underrated and passed up.

As soon as most players don't consistently win a lot more than they are risking with a method. They drop it. I have a first game winning streak with Pattern Breaker of 53 now and counting. that's another area of thought overlooked. The point I'm making is simple. It is possible to profit from this game. Even when your strikerate is in negative figures. This thinking about the necessity to have an edge is vastly overrated at the expense of consistent overall progress.

Hello

Sorry i can not help commenting on it  ;D I finally figured your winning formula.
Let me summarize it. Play any system few times. If your strike rate is better than average expected - in PB 7/1 then you pocket your profit. If not you go home a winner 2 by simply raising your stakes after losing a game. You just identified something that happens so rarely like

HLH
HLH
HLH  for example...

that you r always ahead. Patience, mindset  is all you need. Statistical edge is absolutely irrelevant. Double loses just hardly ever happen in your roulette universe.
I guess we just live in 2 different worlds   O0

Good luck pursuing your dream
Matt

Johnlegend

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 03:56 AM 2012
Hello

Sorry i can not help commenting on it  ;D I finally figured your winning formula.
Let me summarize it. Play any system few times. If your strike rate is better than average expected - in PB 7/1 then you pocket your profit. If not you go home a winner 2 by simply raising your stakes after losing a game. You just identified something that happens so rarely like

HLH
HLH
HLH  for example...

that you're always ahead. Patience, mindset  is all you need. Statistical edge is absolutely irrelevant. Double loses just hardly ever happen in your roulette universe.
I guess we just live in 2 different worlds   O0

Good luck pursuing your dream
Robeenhuut. Its no dream that's what you have to come to realize. I know from the way you write on here. Your mind it firmly placed at the shrine of Einsteins theories. Not a bad place to be. But not a good one either. If you have aspirations for winning at this game.

You are not getting what I'm saying here at all. Maybe you can't. I understand that. Certain people are so saturated in math theory. They will never be able to break free from it. I was never in it to start with. I only care about winning. Not how I arrive at the point of winning. That's the difference.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 09, 04:04 AM 2012
Robeenhuut. Its no dream that's what you have to come to realize. I know from the way you write on here. Your mind it firmly placed at the shrine of Einsteins theories. Not a bad place to be. But not a good one either. If you have aspirations for winning at this game.

You are not getting what I'm saying here at all. Maybe you can't. I understand that. Certain people are so saturated in math theory. They will never be able to break free from it. I was never in it to start with. I only care about winning. Not how I arrive at the point of winning. That's the difference.

Hello John

I just love 2 argue with u. I guess that we will have 2 use math after all 2 find out who is right  ;D No need 2 be Albert.  Just simple testing. Paper n pen.  I know you hate technology. Actually me 2  ;D   Its not hit n run anymore.  What do u say?

Regards
Matt

Johnlegend

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 09, 05:08 AM 2012
Hello John

I just love 2 argue with u. I guess that we will have 2 use math after all 2 find out who is right  ;D No need 2 be Albert.  Just simple testing. Paper n pen.  I know you hate technology. Actually me 2  ;D   Its not hit n run anymore.  What do u say?

Regards
I say play the game honestly. Be true to yourself. And forget you ever heard of math. If I have 53 consecutive wins now for the first game of the day. And logic/math whatever you want to call it says I shouldnt be getting more than 7. You know math doesn't explain randoms behaviour at all.. Random entry HIT AND RUN. In its purest form ONE GAME STOP. Produces superior results to stay and play all day. Of that there is no question in my mind.

The only way to play a bigger volume of games in one day and walk away a winner is the avenue I am now pursuing. FRAME BETTING. Then you have random under a microscope. You have it framed, cornered. You will see what it does at its best and at its worst. From that analysis. You will see a way to win. Or at least I will. And you will forget about this other maths nonsense. Flat bets VS progression. The only outcome you should be interested in is WINNING. Profit. How you arrive there should make no difference.

We, (even I am guilty of this recently) try to appease the maths brigade. By trying to win by their purist agenda. CONTINOUS BETTING AND FLAT BETTING. They know already its can't work. So they insist on those stipulations to prove we can't beat this game longterm. And they are right. But we CAN BEAT THIS GAME. Once we throw away the maths book. And that's what I do. And some others have come to the realization they can do it too. Until more do the same. Losing will always be their best friend. Then they become a Drazen Cro. or Qwerty or Superman. Pessimists till their dying day.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 09, 05:24 AM 2012
I say play the game honestly. Be true to yourself. And forget you ever heard of math. If I have 53 consecutive wins now for the first game of the day. And logic/math whatever you want to call it says I shouldnt be getting more than 7. You know math doesn't explain randoms behaviour at all.. Random entry HIT AND RUN. In its purest form ONE GAME STOP. Produces superior results to stay and play all day. Of that there is no question in my mind.

The only way to play a bigger volume of games in one day and walk away a winner is the avenue I am now pursuing. FRAME BETTING. Then you have random under a microscope. You have it framed, cornered. You will see what it does at its best and at its worst. From that analysis. You will see a way to win. Or at least I will. And you will forget about this other maths nonsense. Flat bets VS progression. The only outcome you should be interested in is WINNING. Profit. How you arrive there should make no difference.

We, (even I am guilty of this recently) try to appease the maths brigade. By trying to win by their purist agenda. CONTINOUS BETTING AND FLAT BETTING. They know already its can't work. So they insist on those stipulations to prove we can't beat this game longterm. And they are right. But we CAN BEAT THIS GAME. Once we throw away the maths book. And that's what I do. And some others have come to the realization they can do it too. Until more do the same. Losing will always be their best friend. Then they become a Drazen Cro. or Qwerty or Superman. Pessimists till their dying day.

We can debate whole year here John. I suggested testing your new method n i guess your answer is no. Without real  testing we can only determine here  who has a better debating skills  ;D n ingles is just my 3rd language.  So i let u off d hook here.
U have enough doubters  ;D

Good luck
Matt

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