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*PATTERN BREAKER*

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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albertojonas

Quote from: CocaVillaLaNoche on Jul 01, 05:42 AM 2012
Sorry, don't get that.
I will explain with odd/even...

You gather the permanence into clusters of 3
12-7-33 = first is always X so 12(even) X, 7(different than before, Odd) O,  33 (same as before, odd) X
XOX
24-8-22 = 24 (Even) X, 8 (same as before, Even, X), 22 (same as before, Even, X)
XXX


hope it is clear now.


So if you have clusters of 3 you only have 4 different possibilities:
XXX
XOX
XOO
XXO
...................


Now you can go to random.org and get 300 spins, numbers from 1 to 4, and check after a series of 3 how many times the same formation would repeat, and just there you have a very good method for EC. I mean hard to tank.
TRNG 2012-07-01 #300 spins
LW REGISTRY=LWLLWLWWWWW
[reveal]
4
1
1
3
4
3
2
3
2
3
2
3
4
3
2
2
3
2
2
2
2L
1W
3
2
4
1
1
2
3
3
2
3
4
2
1
1
4
2
3
1
4
4
1
3
4
3
4
1
3
1
2
3
2
4
3
2
4
2
4
4
3
1
4
3
4
2
2
1
3
1
1
3
4
1
3
3
4
3
3
3
3L
3L
4W
2
1
1
2
2
1
4
2
4
2
3
3
4
3
1
4
3
1
2
2
4
2
2
3
1
4
1
1
4
1
1
2
3
2
2
1
3
1
3
4
1
4
4
4
4L
1W
2
4
4
3
1
2
4
4
3
1
1
4
4
3
3
2
2
4
2
4
2
4
3
1
2
4
2
3
4
3
3
4
3
4
4
2
1
2
4
3
2
3
4
2
3
2
3
3
1
2
2
2
3W
4
2
2
3
4
3
2
2
1
3
4
3
3
4
4
1
1
3
1
4
2
1
2
2
3
4
2
2
4
3
3
2
3
2
3
4
3
3
3
2w
3
2
1
4
2
4
2
1
4
3
4
4
2
3
2
1
1
2
1
3
3
2
4
2
4
1
2
4
1
3
2
1
2
2
2
1w
2
2
4
2
2
4
1
3
2
4
4
3
4
1
2
1
2
3
4
1
3
4
4
2
4
4
4
3w
1
4
3
3
1
4
3
4
2
4
1
3
2
3
[/reveal]

albertojonas

If you want more action you can play against series of 3 or more of the same formation.


TRNG 2012-06-30 #300 spins
(each spin represents 1 formation thus is equivalent to 900 real spins)
LW Registry = WWWWLLWWWWWWWWWWWWWLWWLWWLLLWLWWWWLWLWWLWLWWWL
WWWWLLWWLWWWWWLWWLWWWWWLWWWWW
[reveal]
4
2
2
3W
1
2
2
4W
3
4
2
1
1
3W
3
4W
4
4L
4L
3W
2
2
1W
4
1
3
2
4
4
2W
3
2
2
4W
4
1W
3
2
3
3
4W
2
1
1
3W
3
2W
4
1
2
4
1
3
3
2W
3
2
1
2
1
3
3
1W
2
3
1
4
4
1W
1
2W
3
2
2
1W
4
4
4L
3W
3
2W
2
2L
1W
4
2
3
4
2
4
2
2
4W
3
1
4
1
1
1L
1L
1L
4W
2
1
3
2
3
1
1
1L
2W
3
3
4W
2
3
2
1
2
3
1
3
4
1
2
1
1
4W
3
3
1W
1
1L
2W
4
2
4
2
3
1
3
2
2
2L
4W
2
1
1
1
2
3
3
3L
4W
3
2
1
2
1
3
1
3
4
2
3
2
2
4W
3
2
4
1
3
4
2
4
2
1
2
2
1W
2
1
1
1L
3W
4
2
3
4
4
2W
4
2
2
4W
3
4
1
2
3
2
4
2
2
4W
2
3
2
4
2
3
3
3L
3L
2W
3
3
1W
3
3
3L
4W
4
3W
2
2
4W
3
3
1W
1
2W
4
1
3
1
4
1
4
1
1
1L
2W
2
3W
3
3L
1W
3
3
4W
3
3
4W
3
2
1
1
3W
2
4
2
4
1
3
2
4
4
3W
1
2
4
4
4L
1W
3
1
1
4W
2
2
3W
4
1
2
4
2
3
3
4W
3
4
2
1
2
2
3W
4
[/reveal]


Lw registry if you attack only once =
WWWWLWWWWWWWWWWWWLWLWLLWWWLLWLLWWLWWWLWLWWWWLWLWWWWLWWWW


it means at most 5 losses in a row.


Enjoy!

Johnlegend

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jul 01, 07:08 AM 2012
Nearly always win one out of three... 2 me it means nearly 1 unit out of 3 bets in 1,2,4 progression. can you explain nearly in roulette terms please... ;D I guess I'm not only d one confused by yr statement.
I go by results I get from real play Huut. When looking at how pattern 8 completes across the even chances theres a high percentage of hits in the first three attempts. And over the last 140 games I've played there has never been a session where at least one of the three even chances didn't close pattern 8 in the first available attempt. This is true power in roulette. Youve got rand cornered its got nowhere to go. It either now shows you something you can profit from or something you can't.

And by Joe its showing me something I can profit from. Then if we take each game individually. Over the last 140 played across the even chances. a 63 unit progression has survived.  The perfect progression for that 8th pattern closure would be 15 units. It would absolutely make a profit at present its only been lost 3 times in 140 games. I would personally opperate on 2 levels in a session. Its as impossible to lose twice in one three game session as it is to get 37 unique numbers in 37 spins. Its a limit placed on random. And if you identify it, you profit from it. Time is your price. Can you wait to WIN? That's the crucial question all must anwser.

albertojonas

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 01, 12:20 PM 2012
. Its as impossible to lose twice in one three game session as it is to get 37 unique numbers in 37 spins.
:o
REALLY?


Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 01, 12:20 PM 2012
I go by results I get from real play Huut. When looking at how pattern 8 completes across the even chances theres a high percentage of hits in the first three attempts. And over the last 140 games I've played there has never been a session where at least one of the three even chances didn't close pattern 8 in the first available attempt. This is true power in roulette. Youve got rand cornered its got nowhere to go. It either now shows you something you can profit from or something you can't.

And by Joe its showing me something I can profit from. Then if we take each game individually. Over the last 140 played across the even chances. a 63 unit progression has survived.  The perfect progression for that 8th pattern closure would be 15 units. It would absolutely make a profit at present its only been lost 3 times in 140 games. I would personally opperate on 2 levels in a session. Its as impossible to lose twice in one three game session as it is to get 37 unique numbers in 37 spins. Its a limit placed on random. And if you identify it, you profit from it. Time is your price. Can you wait to WIN? That's the crucial question all must anwser.

Hola John

You lost me a bit. Just tell me if i got it right. U play Pattern 8 for 2 EC's and u use 6 step Marty 1,2,4,8,16,32. What about other 15 units progression - its 4 step?

Regards
Matt

CocaVillaLaNoche

@AlbertoJonas,

Thnx!

The first part I understand.
But the tracking part is a little bit confusing for me.

So here you got:

4
1 (XOO)
1

3
4 (XOX)
3

2
3 (XOX)
2

3
2 (XOX)
3

4
3 (XOX)
2

2
3 (XOX) So we can cross off XOX and XOO, so that's two patterns remaining.I don't understand that.
             Don't we have to cross off three patterns and then bet on the last one?                   
2

2
2   (XXX)
2L

1W
3     (XXO)
2


Regards,


Niek

CocaVillaLaNoche

And 12-7-33 isn't that XOO instead of XOX?

Even/Odd/Odd?

amk

JohnLegend why don't you play on the French Roulette wheel.

Perhaps test your past results on the French wheel and see if there is a useful difference.


albertojonas

Quote from: CocaVillaLaNoche on Jul 01, 04:18 PM 2012
And 12-7-33 isn't that XOO instead of XOX?

Even/Odd/Odd?


You can do it both ways


I Was using different or same in relation to the last outcome.
You can use in relation to the first outcome.


but you must choose a consistent one and stick with it.


also the numbers between 1 and 4 are only to simulate the 4 different formations you can get:
XXX
XXO
XOX
XOO


Hope it helps.


CocaVillaLaNoche

Quote from: albertojonas on Jul 01, 04:47 PM 2012

You can do it both ways


I Was using different or same in relation to the last outcome.
You can use in relation to the first outcome.


but you must choose a consistent one and stick with it.

Oké, I understand that part now!

But...  ;)

Lets say for example:

XXX (1)
XOX (2)
XXO (3)
XOO (4)

4
1
1
3 XOX is left, so isn't this a trigger?
4
3
2
3
2
3
2
3
4
3
2
2
3
2
2
2
2L
1W
3
2

Hope you can make that part clear to me, LoL!

Regards,


Niek

Johnlegend

To Albertolonas yes really I dont get ur system at all and you are making a simple concept sound complicated. You give no examples of progression or bankroll requirements. And you need to start your own thread with concise rules, I will delete ur posts on here later to keep the thread about the pattern breaker concept,

Johnlegend

 No Hut Pattern 8 is played on all three even chances, We allow random to do two thirds of the work for us. Then we attempt to finis the job. I will eventually dedicate a thread to this, By then there will be some interest as Pattern 8 will have helped me defeat an RNG.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 02, 01:41 AM 2012
No Hut Pattern 8 is played on all three even chances, We allow random to do two thirds of the work for us. Then we attempt to finis the job. I will eventually dedicate a thread to this, By then there will be some interest as Pattern 8 will have helped me defeat an RNG.

Thanks John. I know d original rules but recently there were some changes n i lost track  ;D Lets wait 4 a new thread then.
Matt

albertojonas

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 02, 01:36 AM 2012
To Albertolonas yes really I don't get your system at all and you are making a simple concept sound complicated. You give no examples of progression or bankroll requirements. And you need to start your own thread with concise rules, I will delete your posts on here later to keep the thread about the pattern breaker concept,

Dear lohnJeleng, my name is Albertojonas.  :xd:
You can and you should delete my posts, sorry for "hijackin'" your thread.
But just for the sake of clarification i will try again to show you what i mean.


1st a few considerations:
-I believe it is more productive long term to play for all patterns showing than not.
-When you are tracking even chances in clusters of 3 outcomes you can get 8 different patterns. That is ok!
RRR
RRB
RBR
RBB


BBB
BBR
BRB
BRR
==================
What you say is that you wait for 7 of this patterns to show up and then bet the missing pattern will appear correct?
==================


What i say is that you can make things "colorblind" and instead of R/B, E/O, H/L you can observe what happens regarding change of state.
Once for all i wanted this to be clear so we are all on the same page.


You see 1st outcome RED and 2nd BLACK you observe a change.
so What i purpose is this notation (Not new):
XO
being: X=Same, O=Other
if 3rd outcome is RED again it will become
XOX because it is again same as 1st.


So basically all the 8 patterns above mentioned can be translated in only 4.



RRR   XXX
RRB   XXO
RBR   XOX
RBB   XOO


BBB   XXX
BBR   XXO
BRB   XOX
BRR   XOO


Hope it is easy to grasp.
The advantage is this way you get triggers to bet on more quickly, maintaining the same probability.
============
Following your system, one would wait for 3 of the above patterns to show and then bet for the 4th to show up.


Cheers


albertojonas

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 30, 07:23 AM 2012
So the idea Donik7777 is to cover 1---3 attempts using the classic 1,2,4 progression. Here is an example of a trigger for the first attempt.

PATTERN 8 IS HLH

LLL
HHL
HL------TRIGGER for attempt one to complete the 8th pattern

With a strikerate currently of 19/1 its well worth the wait. I would be happy with 10/1---12/1 as the original PATTERN BREAKER delivers. Its all worth it in the end if positive numbers are your reward.
This is what i am talking about above  O0

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