*PATTERN BREAKER*

[subby]

BC - Just a suggestion on your plan of storing your winnings in your casino account.

Would it not be better to make regular structured withdrawals into a real bank account e.g. a new a/c just for saving any winnings? That way you actually have your money 100% & available earning interest if in a suitable a/c. Casino a/cs don't earn interest so over time inflation erodes the value of your money.

Things can happen to on line casinos, even to a point of insolvency? Like how would you feel if you had a 6 figure sum in your casino a/c after say 4 1/2 years only to lose it because the casino went bust or substantially changed their rules ?

Also check the terms & conditions carefully as I remember reading something about time conditions at 1 on line casino on a/c moneys & other withdrawal rules like maximum take out amounts in any one month.    I wish you every success.

Cheers, Ausguy.

I preach this as well. Have your BR in YOUR BANK ACCOUNT - When playing deposit only what your total loss for that method would be. Have your bankroll in a savings account that you can access online or daily for cash if playing bricks and mortar casinos.

Keep your day to day expenses in a separate bank account and keep your roulette bankroll in an account you wouldn't normally use as much.

Don't spend money playing roulette that you'd need to buy food and pay bills. Number 1 rule there

Companies go bust in hours and if you left 15k in your account and they went bust you could find that you wake up one morning and lost it all. 

Keep 14,500 in your roulette real bank account....and play with 500 in your gaming account.

When you need to top up after a loss for example then you top up another BR to cover 1 loss again and play. If at the end of the week you are in profit then withdraw what extra money, over 1 loss, into your account and grow your real life savings account with the withdrawals and the interest off your bank.

[subby]

Hi Ausguy.

I understand that concern. and will hopefully be able to make regular withdrawals. my goal is as of now is to build a strong enough BR to use these methods with a significant more valuable unit size. and then cream off winnings from that point.

If a total loss is 7 units (betting 1, 2, 4 units) and you just suck up any loss and never increase your bet, then your bankroll needs to be 20 times a loss....minimum.

Why 20 you may ask?

It's to do with the "fear/panic factor" when we take a loss.

Say you have a bankroll of £100 (I'm using GPB £'s as I'm from the UK) say you have that 100 bankroll and you were playing £5 units, due to the fact you didn't really know much about money management techniques. Your 3 bets would be £5, £10, £20 - That's a loss of £35 which against a £100 bankroll is over a third. If you lose a third of your bankroll then the fear can creep into your mindset and make you try to recoup some of it back fast...You've just lost a third of your bankroll, that's a scary thought and one that catches MANY people out and makes them chase a quick recovery. We all know that this can be fatal to your remaining bankroll. NEVER CHASE - PATIENCE WINS....NOT RASH "FAST RECOVERY" BETS

BUT...and here is where the "20 times" bankroll mindset comes in...When you take a loss of £35 but your bankroll is in excess of £700, well, that's a SERIOUSLY less fearful loss when you look at your bankroll 1/20th which is mentally a LOT easier to take and even walk away with a "Oooh nice one random, you got me there but I@ll get you the next time"...perhaps with a wry smile from you too

This is just my money management suggestion for pattern breaker -

ASSUMING £1 is 1unit

TO BET         BR NEEDED
1 unit                  140units
2 units                280units
3 units                420units
4 units                560units
5 units                700units


so to bet £1 you need a BR of 140
£2 ........................£280
£3 ........................£420
£4 ........................£560
£5.........................£700

I'd suggest that you stick with £5 units as you only need to play 2-4 games a day to take out a nice amount of money at the end of each month for life's nicer things (holiday, presents for kids etc)

I'd also suggest that you reach the next bankroll mark before betting the corresponding unit size. By that I mean this

Wait until your bankroll is £280 BEFORE MOVING UP TO £2 UNITS...i.e. stay at £1 units until your BR is £280 ONLY THEN move up to using £2 units and so on....wait until your BR is at £420 BEFORE MOVING FROM £2 UP TO £3 UNITS

If you have a substantial BR like £3,500

You can then look at really serious money making by using units worth £25 betting sequence would be something like £25, £50, £100.

With a bankroll that size you can perhaps afford to cover the green Zero on the last bet with perhaps a £5 on green zero as insurance...each to their own on that green zero bet though. I cover green on my last bet as I@ve hit it so many times on a final bet.

Remember to keep your BR in your own savings account though and not all in a casino account Let the interest grow it as well as your game play winnings 

[subby]

@ALL pattern break players

Sheet 1: EVEN / ONEVEN
Sheet 2: HIGH / LOW
sheet 3: BLACK / RED


do your tests and be convinced

At all a nice sunday, it's raining in Belgium

Ludo8400

Ludo what am I looking at here? what does the excel sheet mean?

[artattack]

Subby.


This is also something I noticed.

If you notice, red and black are alternate on the wheel, but odd/even, high/low are not quite and there are mini groups that could just tip the balance. For instance 10-5-24-16  you have 3 low numbers out of 4 and 3 even numbers out of the same 4another example 15-19-4-21  here we have 3 odd numbers in a sector of 4.


Art.

[subby]

Subby.


This is also something I noticed.

If you notice, red and black are alternate on the wheel, but odd/even, high/low are not quite and there are mini groups that could just tip the balance. For instance 10-5-24-16  you have 3 low numbers out of 4 and 3 even numbers out of the same 4another example 15-19-4-21  here we have 3 odd numbers in a sector of 4.


Art.

That's EXACTLY what I mean

[subby]

For those looking the meaning of this pattern Breaker method it is, in its purest form....

Random you've given me, since I started playing this session, every combination apart from the one that is left to give me. I'm betting that on the next 3 spins that you can't give me that exact combination I need to have filled ALL combinations, right here, right now...in the next 3 spins.

More often than not, it can't give you that exact combination at that exact time you ask it to and therefore you win 1 unit. Yes it does but with a hit rate of 10/11wins of 1 unit to 1 total loss(7 units) = +4 units on average...you'll be grinding out unit wins until your bankroll lets you play large money units to make yourself some cash each month.

Ophis has a tracker for pattern breaker and other methods, which asks you to click on the spun numbers and it tracks for you telling when to bet and how much. His tracker is free but I'd recommend you throw him a few units thanks when you have downloaded it as it's a great tool he has given us. He has a paypal account to donate to.

[subby]

link:://rmst.forumer.com/index.php

I've had his tracker for a long time now so not sure if this link still works. Also if this link isn't allowed on these forums then sorry but I think it's ok.

[Bcboilermaker]

Hi. subby

thanks for the advice.

[roulettefan]

@subby

all you say on money management is good

i also use ophis tracker witch is the best tracker for pattern breaker
you must register to his forum to have acces to the tracker

about the strike rate you say 11/1
on the long run with some variation during the game of course

does this  : hit rate of 10/11wins of 1 unit to 1 total loss(7 units) = +4 units on average.have been tested and confirmed deeply by you
and your experimentation??

i also think is better to take the loss than recover

the pilot tell me he play 1,2,4
and don't recover the losses

i made 22 play this morning at smarlive casino live roulette
this morning  1euro unit

19 win
3 lost
strike rate 6,3
it s a very bad strike rate bankroll any way -2  !!!

[subby]

I play until I get 5 units. I play on paddypower website where they have 5 live dealer tables so it's 1 unit from each table then that's me finished. I wouldn't hang around to play 20 games on one table and not 20 games in 1 day. Just my personal opinon.

If you have a bankroll of 100 units and you lose 7 (1 total loss for pattern Breaker) that's not much really of a % loss of your overall bankroll.

You're playing too fast and too much in one go. Play 5 games in one day and from experience you will get 3 or 4 days of no losses which will let you build your bankroll up when you DO lose...ULTRA MARATHON...not a sprint 

[roulettefan]

thank subby for your answer
do you really think
it change something if you play continuosly

or if you play little session each day
because at the end when you add those small session
it will be a long seesion

i just ask for your experiene
playing not a lot of seesion a day is really important
to win this game ??,

[subby]

It's all about a mindset roulettefan.

If you say to yourself...today I'm going in to play 5 games only ...then that EXACTLY what you do. Regardless of if you get five wins in those 5 games or four wins and one loss etc...

Never play more than five games in one day. More often than not you will win all five games and you can go 4 or 5 days or more when you win all five games.

The more you play consistently at one table the more likely that random will find a way to beat you. I know most people don't believe in playing hit and run but I swear by it. I think that there are long periods in a day when things will go your way in numbers spun by the wheel but if you play long hours then you'll be more likely to hit one of the times in the day when numbers will go against you. Just my opinion.

If you play hit and run for 5 games there is more chance of you playing in the zone when things will go your way. If you play longer then there is more chance that you'll also hit the bad zone when things will go against you...like hitting a triple spun number etc..

[subby]

If I can also refer you to a post I made and put in another thread on here...

In the new year I'll have what I need to keep the BR for playing the game with and not have to look to use it for other stuff. I'd like a BR sufficiently big to eventually get me a regular £100 a week extra then I can start to take out that £100 and use it.

Iron will and patience is the key and the sooner you realise this then the better off you'll be sooner. Far too many with the "win fast and win loads now" mentality, doing the rounds. Winning 10 units a day for about 300 units a month = £300 a month. That might not sound a lot...but if you can work your BR over the space of 6-12 months to give you the breathing space to see your unit value easily go from £1 units to even just £2 units makes that end month amount of STILL 300 units....worth £600...now we're talking. Imagine the standard 300 units a month when you've grown your BR through laser discipline....when you have £5 units x the 300 units a month....£1500 spending money a month is where you start to have fun.

To play £5 units risking maybe 81 units (code 4 for example) that's £400+ which is really steep to lose that on one loss....BUT....if you've taken 12 months to grow your BR at low unit stakes up to the point you can afford to play £5 unit stakes...then your BR should be up in the £6000-£8000 region. Losing £400 out of £8000 isn't something that should, by the stage your br is that high, be something that affects your mentality in playing the game. If you have worked your BR to that level your mental toughness to deal with a loss and not risk a "rash" bet, is at, then you're "above" that "rash" play risk and you'll just keep coining in it playing for 10 units a day.

It is ALL about having the mental will to do it...few if many, perhaps less than 1% of players, will have that mindset toughness to get to the stage where you have a huge BR and good money coming in each month even after taking into account losses in the month....It's being that 1% that's the hard bit to do ...not playing the game systems.

Just my two cents...

Don't look for the fast approach, look for the solid approach and build that bankroll up to the point where you can bet £10 units...or â,¬10 units...with a large bankroll behind you then you can bet with ease and not worry about a loss while still making £300+ or â,¬300+ a month for extra spending money

[subby]

Take the LONG outlook view for playing a method...it's a REAL hard grind at the start to get your bankroll up high but if you can do it, the rewards are there for sure.

Say you play 5 games a day of PATTERN BREAKER for 30 days...that's 150 games in one month...just as an example ok.

Taking a 10win to 1loss view then you can expect, from that 150 games, something like...

130 wins of 1 unit = 130 units

You'll expect to hit 10-14 losses over that month's worth of 150 games which works out at - 7units x 14losses = 98 units lost

130units won - 90 units lost = 40 units profit for the month


40 units @ £1 or â,¬1 doesn't sound much...but if you build on that and do this a number of months so your bankroll lets you play £5 or â,¬5 units....then that 40 units profit each month x £5/â,¬5 = 200 which is a nice earner each month.

...take it one stage further like the poster called Pilot has...where your 1 unit is £50/â,¬50 then multiply that by 40 units profit each month...2,000!!!   That is where you want to be. BUT...and this is the HUGE BUT...it is the patience needed to GET your small bankroll up to a huge level that is the hard part. Playing the system isn't hard, it's the mental ability to stick to a method that seems to be going slowly...only for it to explode after 5-6 months.

Can you do that 5-6 months play to get your BR up? That's the key.

[subby]

Say you started with 100 units bankroll

End of month 1 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about 100 units plus 40 you win = 140units betting £1 units

End of month 2 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about 140 units plus 40 you win = 180units betting £1 units

End of month 3 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about 180 units plus 40 you win = 220units betting £1 units

End of month 4 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker going to be about 220 units plus 40 you win = 260units betting £1 units

End of month 5 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker going to be about 260 units plus 40 you win = 300units betting £1 units

At this stage...300 units in our BR...we've now gone past the "bankroll needed to move up a unit value" (20 times a total loss) 7 units as a loss x 20 = 140units

I'd also suggest that you reach the next bankroll mark before betting the corresponding unit size. By that I mean this

Wait until your bankroll is £280 BEFORE MOVING UP TO £2 UNITS...i.e. stay at £1 units until your BR is £280 ONLY THEN move up to using £2 units and so on....wait until your BR is at £420 BEFORE MOVING FROM £2 UP TO £3 UNITS


so to bet £1 you need a BR of 140
£2 ........................£280
£3 ........................£420
£4 ........................£560
£5.........................£700


You're at end of month 5 and now with a BR of over 300 it allows you to move the unit value up form £1 up to £2 units


End of month 6 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about 300 units plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £2 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £1 unit) = 300 units BR plus (40 units won x £2) = 380

End of month 7 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about 380 units plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £2 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £1 unit) = 380 units BR plus (40 units won x £2) = 460units

At this stage you can move up to £3 unit values form the £2 as you've passed the threshold for moving up a unit value while still having 20 times a total loss as your BR

End of month 8 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about 460 units plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £3 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £2 unit) = 460 units BR plus (40 units won x £3 = 120) = 580units <- new threshold

At this stage you can move up to £4 unit values from the £3 as you've passed the threshold for moving up a unit value while still having 20 times a total loss as your BR

End of month 9 -
Bankroll is, on average with Pattern Breaker, going to be about 580 units plus 40 you win(BUT NOW £4 UNITS INSTEAD OF THE £3 unit) = 580 units BR plus (40 units won x £4 = 160) = 740units

...and so on

You can see not a lot of movement in the unit value for the first 6 months but then it starts to rocket when you have a BR big enough to let you bet higher unit values. It's this 9 month plan that we should all be sticking too  which will let us fleece the casinos for all we can get