*PATTERN BREAKER*

[ugly bob]

2 great post above from subby. The problem many gamblers have is no real plan of action when it comes down to it. Follow the subby guidelines and you can not really lose your shirt. Learn to accept losses and remember it is ok to lose the odd battle in war.


bob.

[artattack]

Just a quick word on the tracker by Ophis (great work by him and has been very useful)  I am not too sure it works quite as it should, zero seems to make it throw a wobbly, just test it first.


Arthur.

[TwoCatSam]

snubby

I did sign up for the MST website and downloaded the tracker.  That thing is a piece of work.  Anyone who can do that sure has my respect.  Anyway, I'll send Ophis some coin.

Could you tell me if you can import spins from Spielbank and input them?  And how?  One could test "Pattern Breaker 4" 10,000 spins in no time.

Thank you for posting that link and thank you for your input to this thread.  You certainly are sold on this idea.  It is people like you who make me constantly stop and re-think my position on H&R. 

If I became sold enough on it, I would withdraw some $$$ from my 401K before the coming depression destroys it anyway and plow headlong into this.  What does it take:  50 50, 150 150, 450 450?  By my math, that's only 1,300.

Sam

[peauke]

I also think PB is a great system and started to test it.
At first it was pretty good strikerate around 13:1 but then it dropped pretty fast to 1:9,5.
Maybe it is because i played all 3 EC but i also recorded which EC lost.

i have played 298 games
won: 270
lost: 28
E/O: 8
H/L: 10
R/B:10
also in the 28 times i lost the where 4 zeros involved.

I know i haven't played as much games as JL has but i think to be on a SR of 1:11 / 1:10 i have to get a good winning streak to pull my srikerate up.

So a have mixed feelings about the system. I think it's not bad but you could easily can get terrible SR and maybe it will change when you play more games (in total not per day)

For the ones that are interested i have attached my excel tracker

peauke

[Twisteruk]

I also think PB is a great system and started to test it.
At first it was pretty good strikerate around 13:1 but then it dropped pretty fast to 1:9,5.
Maybe it is because i played all 3 EC but i also recorded which EC lost.

i have played 298 games
won: 270
lost: 28
E/O: 8
H/L: 10
R/B:10
also in the 28 times i lost the where 4 zeros involved.

I know i haven't played as much games as JL has but i think to be on a SR of 1:11 / 1:10 i have to get a good winning streak to pull my srikerate up.

So a have mixed feelings about the system. I think it's not bad but you could easily can get terrible SR and maybe it will change when you play more games (in total not per day)

For the ones that are interested i have attached my excel tracker

peauke

Hi thanx for sharin ure experience !

Durin ure 298 games how many times did you experience two or all three EC's losin at the same Session ? Also how many back to back (double loss games) did you experience ?

Also have you considered just playing a 2 step progression (1,2) on the second and third outcome only ? That way on a loss its only 3 Units

Thanx

[artattack]

Hi Sam.


The tracker.


If the spins from Spielbank are in a text file you import them into the tracker via button that sits in between the speech bubble and what looks like a target.


It opens up a graph.


Now click the speech bubble on that new window and select import.


To get the spins to run just click the red play arrow or to get it to do a step at a time press the yellow button.


As I said earlier, not sure it works correctly for Pattern Breaker just test it first.


Arthur.

[roulettefan]

there is a new subject opis tracker for pattern breacker  code 4 filter etc

[Robeenhuut]

@subby

all you say on money management is good

i also use ophis tracker witch is the best tracker for pattern breaker
you must register to his forum to have acces to the tracker

about the strike rate you say 11/1
on the long run with some variation during the game of course

does this  : hit rate of 10/11wins of 1 unit to 1 total loss(7 units) = +4 units on average.have been tested and confirmed deeply by you
and your experimentation??

i also think is better to take the loss than recover

the pilot tell me he play 1,2,4
and don't recover the losses

i made 22 play this morning at smarlive casino live roulette
this morning  1euro unit

19 win
3 lost
strike rate 6,3
it s a very bad strike rate bankroll any way -2  !!!

Subby sounds like JL who guarantees that playing his methods you will have a strike rate long term constantly over average rate strike rate playing of course HAR. He has 10/1 but you have 6/1. Just use common sense here     

[peauke]

Hi thanks for sharing your experience !

During your 298 games how many times did you experience two or all three ECs losing at the same Session ? Also how many back to back (double loss games) did you experience ?

Also have you considered just playing a 2 step progression (1,2) on the second and third outcome only ? That way on a loss its only 3 Units

thanks

I didn't record how many losses i had in a session with 3 ec's. I think about 2 a 3 times i had 2 out of 3 losses in a session and only 1 double loss (back to back).

If i play only the last two outcomes i could also have missed a lot of wins at the first bet so i don't think it would matter, but maybe worth testing thnx.

[aaaaqqqq]

Hello everybody!!
First of all, sorry for my English
I like this system PATTERN BREAKER very much
I would very appreciate if you could answer me. I have few questions.
I would like to know how do you play after you loose (1,2,4).
Do you rise your progression? for example to 2,4,8?
And then ?
I played about 200 games and I had two double losses and one tripple loss.(3 in a ROW)
So it means that I am still an my BR as on the beginning +/- few pennies.

And than, I think it would be better to bet on Zero also. Like this:
H/L  ZERO  WIN H/L  WIN ZERO
1,1   0,1         1       2,3
2,4   0,2         1       3,2
5,1   0,3         1       1,3

What do you think about this?

Question for JohnLegend:
Which progression do you use? For example here:

Johnlegend on September 29, 2012, 04:10:35 AM

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 5,500
TOTAL GAMES WON 5,013
TOTAL GAMES LOST 487
STRIKERATE APPROX 10/1
BALANCE 5,237 POINTS PLUS
DOUBLE LOSSES 5


It means that when you loose (1,2,4) you have to bet more chips.
thanks ang good luck

[Twisteruk]

Still havin great results with this. Have increased my Bank so my Unit size has gone up

I now play to win 1 Unit per session and do this around 3-4 times a day

I Track all 3 EC's and bet the first one to Trigger

On a Loss I bet the next EC to Trigger

So far all wins have come on the first or second EC

I only bet a 2 Step on the 2nd and 3rd outcome of each EC

[TwoCatSam]

Twister

Are you using the MST tracker?

Sam

[Twisteruk]

Twister

Are you using the MST tracker?

Sam

No. Im not a Tracker person Sam. Pen and Paper for me, and oddly I enjoy my scribblings lol 

[ashwinsinha]

For those who dont like to wait for 40-50 spins to wait for a trigger can tweak PB as follows....

first of all i dont know how many are graduates here but in my university i have studied this pattern (shown below) which is used in digital system design subject here it is as follows
there are only 2 binary values used in digital systems and they are 0's and 1's, the 8 possible combination were to be strictly as follows in same order as shown.....

000
001
010
011
100
101
110
111

now we assign 0's as low and 1's as high

now we record 3 spins and see which pattern matches above lets say the 3 spins which came are 010
now we see the next combination after 010 in the above sequence it is 011 now we bet next 3 spins exactly 011.....use a 3 step marty 1-2-4.
what about the dreaded zero 
if zero comes while recording the 3 spins dont play next 3 spins
if zero comes while betting take a loss and proceed with comfortable progression i would suggest 3 step marty and next 3 recovery bets only.

[Twisteruk]

Just had my First Double Loss on PB

Won on the Third EC