*PATTERN BREAKER*

[dino246]

Steve.

For whatever MY opinion is worth.....i feel i owe it to JL to speak-up on his behalf.

All i can say is that without his input along wth Scooby Doo's i would NEVER have FOUND the Matrix way of playing this great game as upto joining this forum all my play concepts were based on the Horizontal,never in a million years would i have considered playing VERTICAL.

Also it was great to have confirmation from both JL and XXVV on the strength of HIT-RUN-WIN which i was already using to great effect since i first walked into a Casino back in 1993 in Southend.

Yes ok JL has history,but then don't we all.......i know i have........it's about how you play the cards of life your dealt.

Anyway i feel alot better after this small-rant.


Best Regards.


Dno.

[trebor]

I have to join in.

I don't doubt , Steve , that you computers give you the sure edge you claim.

I know the rest of us are playing around with methods that don't actually add up mathematically but we're probably never going to be able to use your systems for a variety of reasons.

But it's what we do and enjoy. In many respects JL is no different he just gets on his hobby horse a bit.

Does he really encourage anyone to lose money? If he does then so do many.

I can see how much he is annoying you so just don't debate with him.

Trebor

[Twisteruk]

Here the thing from my pov

1. JL was called out on being Fender over a year ago and he confirmed he was. Yes, at first he said he wasnt, but when pressed by (I think Atlantis) he confirmed he was Fender

2. JL has ALWAYS posted his Methods/Systems in FULL. No dripping Tap. ALWAYS 100% up front

3. Yes he is full of himself and may rub some ppl up the wrong way, but thats true in all walks of life.


Its an error to ban him.

[ugly bob]

I got to agree with the sentiments from the guys above.
No way do I believe he has any association with CEH whatsoever.
The guy put himself on the chopping block sharing his ideas and deserves respect for that.

bob.

[Proofreaders2000]

In Steve's defense remember he owns this site, he can do whatever he wishes.
His objective is to sell/lease his roulette computer and create roulette partnerships.  Allowing users to post systems/comments are secondary.  Steve can't let someone with a questionable reputation affect his business.

[Turner]

Steve
Its a mistake to ban Jl
Lots of people enjoy his methods and as Jl, he never held a knife to anyones throat. They read his stuff and enjoyed it.
I don't believe the methods but i love reading them. I think he handles criticism well and don't rememer him being abusive.
At least he posts up. More than can be said for some
Turner

[Paul2012]

I play Pattern Breaker and have had really good results, but most of all... I love playing this way !
It has taught me to have more DISIPLINE and also taught me to have more PATIENCE while playing...

I also loved reading through the threads, (and for the record, i dont play or like FIVE or 8 on 1...) Roulette is all about decisions,  and i can honestly say, playing this way has opened my eyes to a lot more in roulette.

I have learnt a lot from this forum, and if im honest, most of it from reading the pages upon pages on JL's threads!

Yes i am new on here with not many posts, but only 0ne person replied to my question's and that was JL... Most people on here dont reply or take serious anyone who has not got 100's of posts!

So for me, if anyone is interested, losing JL is a loss....

[Bayes]

In Steve's defense remember he owns this site, he can do whatever he wishes.
His objective is to sell/lease his roulette computer and create roulette partnerships.  Allowing users to post systems/comments are secondary.  Steve can't let someone with a questionable reputation affect his business.

Of course, Steve is the owner so he can ban who he likes, but that's hardly a defense of his position. That's a bit like saying after seeing someone mugged "well, in defense of the mugger's behaviour, he is bigger than the guy he mugged". 

The point is, JL has done nothing to warrant a ban, apart from maybe rubbing Steve up the wrong way. Steve's objective may be to sell computers and push his wares, but in order to effectively use this forum for that purpose, it helps to have members and visitors, and arguably JL has been a significant factor in increasing the flow of traffic to this forum. And after all, as Steve notes himself, people will find out for themselves in due course what works and what doesn't.

Also, regarding your comment on "questionable reputation", I don't think the irony of that will be lost on Steve. 

[Paul2012]

I have read in many systems on here, that set yourself a target to win...AND STICK TO IT !!

So what is wrong with hit n run style if you are hitting your targets !

So i await to see the people who have slated JL, i will be waiting for them to post a thread and how to play roulette properly then. 

[TwoCatSam]

Paul

Almost every seasoned player on this forum will tell you that if what you're doing works for you--stick with it.  All they say is beware that you're not seeing random hand you hot dogs and beer.  Random will present you a bill later on!  That's all they say........

As to Jl and flukey luke.......................

Yes, Steve is "El capo de tuti capo"...boss of all bosses.  He can lop of heads at will.  Might someday lop off mine.  But I liked the ol' Bloviator, ol' Johnny Confusey.  He has given me a lot to think about.

C'mon guys!  You know where to find him!

I am still not sure flukey luke was a liar---but maybe he was.  I would love t have tested that bot, but I swear to you I got a virus every time I used it.  Not raggin' on Ophis--I'm sure it was just a fluke!  HA!!  I cracked myself up!!

Johnlegend is like an out-of-work brother-in-law--you'll never get rid of him.

Sam

[speed]

I do not know is Johnlegend was a CEH  in the past , but i know that he is 100% liar and manipulator like CEH.

[atlantis]

I do not know is Johnlegend was a CEH  in the past , but i know that he is 100% liar and manipulator like CEH.

Speed (?) You also wrote:

I think only valuable computers (like Steve RC) can beat roulette in long run and some VB method..

I do not believe CEH is JL. And I disagree with you - I 100% think that JL is NOT a liar... But I'm not surprised you're in quick with your comments. I know from your posts where you're coming from and which side of the fence you are on.... 

A.

[speed]

So you belive JL(only HE) with his systems in the long term can beat roulette with hit and run !?

I'm not on anybody's side, I'm just on the common sense side..

[Bayes]

Speed,

Is that a reason for calling someone a liar and manipulator,  or sociopath, and banning them?

Not as far as I'm concerned. But anyway, I don't think that's the reason why JL was banned.

[speed]

Bayes, if someone claims something for years that can not proof  - YES he's a liar.

if am an administrator, I would ban him long ago (after the first unproven claims) , so people would not waste time and money on his lies.