*PATTERN BREAKER*

[Steve]

Ignatus, sorry, its just that some people say such ridiculous things it is impossible to know if they are joking or serious. Doesnt this say something?...

[ignatus]

np Steve.. but chillout now, and we all be friends OK.  Atleast we can be kind to one another? What this whole argument started with im not sure. I think we drop this now, and concentrate on the game. 

[Johnlegend]

So speed let me get this straight, if you met someone that believed in God, as many in this world do, and because they have not proved his existence to your satisfaction you would call that person to his/her face that they are a liar!


Is this what you are saying?


I know we are talking about Roulette here, but because you do not hold someone's belief you have no right to call them a liar.


Throughout history by your premise there must have been many liars, those that believed the world was round, that man would be able to Fly, that man would go to the moon, that man would be able to speak to each other thousands of miles away with signals that go through the air, I don't need to go on, you should get my point.


I am not saying I think JL is right or you are right, what I am saying is you have no right to call someone a liar because you do not believe in what they do.


Misguided maybe, but liar NO!

Malcop thanyou, and thanks to all who gave a level of indifference in all this. I will not be coming back to this forum to contribute any further to the delight of the owner.

But I want to make a few points clear before I exit.

1, I am 100% NOT this CEH charactor the owner wrongly accused me of being. I was Fender when I was on the VLS forum as Bayes kindly pointed out. I was turned on in a similar fashion then by this forums owner and banned.

2, I have never and WILL NEVER try to scam anyone, or sell any methods/systems COMPUTERS (Talk about double standards)

3, I dont try to mislead anyone, everyone has or should have a mind of their own. If you find what I am saying interesting and worth testing. YOU DO SO. I dont force anyone to follow anything I say.

4, PROOF, anyone can claim anything. What I will do over the next year will speak a million times more than anything I could post. The owner says I am deluded and anyone who listens to or tries anything I say is deluded. Bankrolls dont grow by themselves. Superman will verify that what I have been doing for the last 8 years is no pie in the sky delusion. 70 units indeed. 200 units to 10,000. And someone says he knows his math???

5, I want to thank those who contributed to my threads and gave me the inspiration to push for even better ways to tackle Mr random. Its been a pleasure. I will be keeping in touch with the cream of this forum anyhow. The support following this ridiculous incident has been overwhelming and very humbling thanks to those who kept an open mind.

As a friend of mine says KEEP A GOOD THOUGHT!

[Steve]

What I will do over the next year will speak a million times more than anything I could post

Yes I truly hope you do win that +70 units over that year. It will sure teach me a lesson. that's a whole year to lead people on for attention. One whole year... and at the end of it all, you can say whatever you want, and nobody will be able to disprove it.

But as for the people that actually test your system, they'll know it is nonsense.

I find it highly unlikely that you and CEH share the same ISP and live near each other. That is why I believe you are CEH.

I will be keeping in touch with the cream of this forum anyhow

You mean the deluded victims? Yes I expect you would.

I honestly dont know whether to feel sorry for your delusional followers or not. End of all, they do it to themselves.

Byeeee

[ignatus]

This whole argument is Ridiculous JohnLegend. And you're not making it any better by bragging about your money. I'm sorry I don't take anyone's side in this...

[Steve]

John, just answer this one question.....

What is the difference between 1000 players that play 1 session each, and 1 player that plays the same 1000 sessions?

After all, according to you there IS a difference.

Pretty please, answer. Or run for the hills because this one isnt so dumb.

[rouletteKEY]

"Can't we all just get along?"
              Rodney King   
     now where's a friggin animated smiley rolling on the ground laughing his arse off when you need one???

[Steve]

Sure we can all get along. I already said I'll let everyone manipulate everyone. Oh happy days. I just had one question for john, but I don't think he is interested in answering critical questions. Too revealing..

I think the question & accurate answer is:

Q. What is the difference between 1000 players that play 1 session each, and 1 player that plays the same 1000 sessions?

A. No difference. But if I allow people to think this, then it will be far too easy to prove I am full of it.

[rouletteKEY]

I wasn't to be taken all too seriously Steve...Rodney King is sort of an inside joke thing for Americans that's why I needed an animated smiley (or ten of them maybe) rolling around laughing to end my comment

Okay...now back to the business of making money

[Steve]

ok no problem..

And john.... no answer. Wow what a surprise. That fact still doesnt help blind people.

[iggiv]

Steve, tricky questions don't reveal anything. U r like a tricky investigator trying to fool an innocent guy into admitting he is guilty. Yes, tricky investigator or attorney can do such things.
Ask questions which u don't have an answer for.

Tricky questions have nothing to do with real game. John does not try do blind anyone, he has no interest, period.

u don't agree with him, fine. But your tricky questions prove nothing, sorry. All this looks like arguing how many devils or angels live on a needle point.

And i respect your game knowledge and all, but u can't just prove that John is lying about his game. He has no motivation to lie at all. He is not a scammer, he is not an "air shaker" like some jerks claiming to change the history of the planet. Maybe he is lucky in his wrong-doing, but u can't prove he is a liar. And maybe u r right and he is wrong, who knows. But the thing is that i agree with his views on hit-n-run, and hit-n-run is a part of rules of many professional players who are also legitimate book authors, not scammers.

Do u think that Lee Tutor, John Patrick, Brett Morton are wrong when they recommend short sessions? That's all "hit-n-run".

[kevint3]

ok no problem..

And john.... no answer. Wow what a surprise. That fact still doesn't help blind people.

According to his last post he left/exited. In case you missed it.

[Steve]

... and you really think he doesnt read here anymore? Or do you think its the perfect excuse to avoid a simple revealing question?

for people that dont see it all, seriously. deluded. cant be bothered. have a good one

[Steve]

Iggiv: "Do u think that Lee Tutor, John Patrick, Brett Morton are wrong when they recommend short sessions? That's all "hit-n-run". "

If their methods rely on short term sessions to profit...

YES! ABSOLUTELY THEY ARE WRONG.

Why?.... with a negative edge, the more you play, the more you lose. With a positive edge, the more you play, the more you win.

If you need short term play, then you are DELUDING yourself and your winnings are only short term fluctuation.

My God what is wrong with some of you?? F-ING SERIOUS? I can't believe it honestly. I'm honestly shaking my head thinking WHAT THE F----?!!!!

before I go nuts, I just have to let ignorant and deluded people do their own thing. I bet my two balls this week I have earned more than any of the deluded players will in their life. But you don't need 20 years experience to know basic facts. You just need to open your darn eyes and see basic truth

IT IS NOT ALL A MATTER OF OPINION!!!!!!!!!! MATHEMATICAL FACT IS NOT OPINION.

Look I give up. The advantage players here will understand the delusion. the system players will think "gee what's wrong with that guy?" leave it at that.

But like I said, JL's baning was not about his or anyone else's delusion. it is who he is and his intentions as per history.

[iggiv]

Steve if i got such a question i would not know what to answer even if i know i am right. Look, some things here just don't reveal anything but one side as more skilled in arguments than another. I agreed that Robeenhut defeated me in arguments, because i just got tired of them.
Does it make me a liar? NO.

the same thing could be with John. Tricky questions, no answers. What the hell?
Now  i will ask u a simple question. imagine
a 4 floor building  with 24 windows and 2 entrances. Imagined? Now tell me when
the portier's grandmom died? That was roughly a puzzle given by brave soldier Shweik in the book by Yaroslav Hashek. And guess what? Nobody has been able to solve this puzzle yet.  for many years.