*PATTERN BREAKER*

[Robeenhuut]

H&R is a form of magical thinking. If you want to beat roulette you must be aware of the current conditions and attack them when they are in a more advantageous state. All hit and run does is make the randomness more random. Now if that sounds useless to you that's because it is. If, on the other hand, you believe that more randomness makes you win more, then perhaps you should ask yourself why it should. I prefer seeking the truth. The truth will save you more money than learning the truth will.

Nice spin on HAR fallacy Gizmo. Hopefully i was not mistaken for HAR advocate. 

[Gizmotron]

Nice spin on HAR fallacy Gizmo. Hopefully i was not mistaken for HAR advocate. 

If you liked that one, you are going to love this one. I'll suggest that the randomized bet selection process for Pattern Breaker is a useless form of belief also. But I found something useful in all this anyway. I'm always looking for win streaks that I can attack. Now if it's possible to get the same long streaks of winners from continuous play as you get from PB then there might be a method for attacking using the three step Marti used as a form of a flat bet.

The trick being, that you avoid clusters of shorter streaks than 7 or less. While I programmed this I put telemetry in each process so that confirmation of each process was producing perfect results. If you look at all that data you can see lots of points that are both advantageous or very bad to be using a progression. I'm going to look at the flow of conditions

[Robeenhuut]

If you liked that one, you are going to love this one. I'll suggest that the randomized bet selection process for Pattern Breaker is a useless form of belief also. But I found something useful in all this anyway. I'm always looking for win streaks that I can attack. Now if it's possible to get the same long streaks of winners from continuous play as you get from PB then there might be a method for attacking using the three step Marti used as a form of a flat bet.

The trick being, that you avoid clusters of shorter streaks than 7 or less. While I programmed this I put telemetry in each process so that confirmation of each process was producing perfect results. If you look at all that data you can see lots of points that are both advantageous or very bad to be using a progression. I'm going to look at the flow of conditions

So how would you go about avoiding these clusters? 

[Gizmotron]

So how would you go about avoiding these clusters?

Now that I'm openly telling my experience and closely held secrets, I'll tell you.

I've called it the global effect. You wait till you see clusters of win streaks. Sometimes they flow in packs. Sometimes they flow mixed and chaotic. But this is very important. Packs of flowing short streaks cluster together too. You avoid the clustering short streaks. So only bet when the global effect favors long win streaks.

Now imagine this. You quit right in the middle of a win streak because you only play hit & run, at five sessions per day.

[rouletteKEY]

Something came to me and it ironic to say the least. Most people are familiar with Monty Python. For a long time now JL has reminded me of the Black Knight in one of their films. Even though he is defeated and is there with no arms or legs, just a head on a body, he continues to brag and boast how he is going to win.
what's the name of that film again?.....ang on, its come to me now........THE HOLY GRAIL...

Yes...I agree...and every attack or perceived attack against the method is simply "a flesh wound"

Please disregard the severed artery shooting blood halfway across the room

[Turner]

Yes...I agree...and every attack or perceived attack against the method is simply "a flesh wound"

Please disregard the severed artery shooting blood halfway across the room

But, the name of the film Roulette key....THE HOLY GRAIL. Ironic....

[rouletteKEY]

Turner...The point was not lost on me I just couldn't help myself by forcing the segueway because that is my favorite scene of the whole film.  It's all good 

[kevint3]

Nice spin on HAR fallacy Gizmo. Hopefully i was not mistaken for HAR advocate. 

Not saying I am an advocate of hit and run...but what is the opposite of hit and run?? stay and lose??

[iggiv]

Not saying I am an advocate of hit and run...but what is the opposite of hit and run?? stay and lose??

now u r an advocate for HAR, Kevin. What u said now so well...That's a very good point i was trying to explain, but in vain.
People which hate hit-n-run for some reasons, usually will have some ready answers to draw everybody attention (including their own) from the very essentials which u expressed very well right now.

[kevint3]

I guess I am an advocate of it.

Let me grasp the people that are against its point of view...

I spin one or 2 times and by luck I am up say 100 units...now the people who are against hit and run
are saying I should continue playing on???
Maybe I will go up another 100 units??? I think that is a fallacy.

Lets set something straight...anytime you are up...f.ucken run

[iggiv]

that's what most of system pro players say. But our "pros" say u can't win like that. I washed my hands on it

[Still]

Still

From what i see here your main contributions here  so far are charting of the progress of JL challenge and constantly getting on my case. I suggest that you learn how to interpret some basic stats like Gizmo's here first. And for tests i use RX,Random.org,some actuals from here and my own data.

Regards

No need to be condescending about my ability to interpret data.  I can make mistakes.  I fix them.  What i'd like to see is you contributing data like Gizmo has done here.  If the only thing you did was shoot down every system that was ever proposed here, that would be a contribution, as long as it was backed by data.  RX, Random.org and actuals are fine.  Let's see what they can prove.  How else would we know when someone is embellishing data?

As for contributions, i stay out of the way of people who are actually contributing and only need to know WHAT is the exact method proposed so anybody can know HOW to obtain the data necessary.  Yes, i'm big on charts because they can often tell more than a list of numbers. That's a contribution of mine.  Had Gizmo posted his results in chart form, there would be no mistaking the data.  And i do consider getting on your case a big contribution.  If it wasn't for me, you would still probably be posting in that ridiculously abbreviated code language used to communicate with your girlfriends over the phone.  If you actually have anything worthwhile to say, i think the group can thank me for making it easier to understand.  I hope you can improve your game in these other areas i'm mentioning as well. 

Regards.

[kevint3]

that's what most of system pro players say. But our "pros" say You can't win like that. I washed my hands on it

Yeah i don't get it... I will admit I have not looked to deeply into this forum but what I have seen are the "pros" saying you can't play hit and run...yet they offer no other way/solution how to play...

Again..if I am up on  the first 10 spins..you bet your a.s.s I am running...unless playing with pennies like the "pros" do.

[iggiv]

Kevin, why,  they ARE giving a solution

bet against deviation with progression. Other words if u see red hitting certain number of times within certain number of spins -- bet black.

Then they label hit-n-run as fallacy.
Though classical gambler's fallacy is exactly what they propose )))

[Robeenhuut]

Yeah i don't get it... I will admit I have not looked to deeply into this forum but what I have seen are the "pros" saying you can't play hit and run...yet they offer no other way/solution how to play...

Again..if I am up on  the first 10 spins..you bet your a.s.s I am running...unless playing with pennies like the "pros" do.

How do you know that "pros" play with pennies?  And what solution would you like to get here?  HAR discussion originated with JL approach.  According to him each of his  methods played HAR produced Better results. If you up after the first 10 spins and you quit thats not an essence of HAR.
Look deeper into this forum to better understand what you really argue with.