*PATTERN BREAKER*

[Still]

Still

There is no point. John posted lots of stats that support his methods. If you believe them and that HAR makes sense all his methods seem to be winners. So just go ahead and play them instead of engaging in pointless debates. And I'm an authority for you now?  This is leading nowhere.

Regards

I just figured you'd know which of your posts contain Gizmo-like data...where to find those posts...that shoot down JL's systems and suggest that his data is embellished.  I don't believe in HAR either, and if his systems don't work without it, i would not play them.  Neither would i test them with hard cash till i had un-embellished data to back up what i intend to do: win. 

I don't want to reinvent the wheel, if there is data out there.  Otherwise, i will eventually run my own tests but loath actually learning the details of each system.  You seem to have a grasp on the details, and said you had some stats so i'd like to know where those stats are. 

As for authority,  i don't regard your analysis as infallible.  Do you? 

[albertojonas]

iggiv,

That's a misrepresentation of strategies that members such as Ego, Albertojonas and others (including me) recommend. For one thing, we don't advise that you start when you see a deviation, only when you see a "correction" after a deviation. It's not like betting black with a martingale after you see 10 reds in a row, and you don't continue to pile losses on losses while there is no signal for correction, so something like one deviation followed by another won't hurt you. The concept isn't gambler's fallacy, it's regression to the mean.

Not only that, but "quitting when ahead" isn't the same as the HAR that JL recommends, as Rob pointed out.

And I don't hate HAR, I just know that it doesn't work. 

So far It is the only way i found profitable for playing the game. That is all. You will not get rich overnight, but with certain amount of dedication you can make some to support your gambling, have fun and enjoyment doing that. Having said that, i recognize it takes time to study maths and roulette and have an open mind applying the concepts to the game of randomness.
It would be interesting to disclosure more info to the general forum audience on this, but it is not my intention to start a "new church", and also the information already presented is not fully interpreted and understood.


Cheers,
AL

[ludo8400]

@john Legend

PATTERN BREAKER 16

Who do the test and bring the results.  Tracker in excel. 

16 groupes to attack.

Long waiting, but good results.



ludo8400

[iggiv]

So far It is the only way i found profitable for playing the game. That is all. You will not get rich overnight, but with certain amount of dedication you can make some to support your gambling, have fun and enjoyment doing that. Having said that, i recognize it takes time to study maths and roulette and have an open mind applying the concepts to the game of randomness.
It would be interesting to disclosure more info to the general forum audience on this, but it is not my intention to start a "new church", and also the information already presented is not fully interpreted and understood.


Cheers,
AL

Classical gambler fallacy never mentions TRENDS. That's a big difference.


link:://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy


Now when u talk about deviation CHANGING, that's a different story. That's kind of trend, that's already betting on HOT. or on cold which already awakened.


that's a thing recommended for example by Lee Tutor. This is NOT A CLASSICAL GAMBLER FALLACY.

[peauke]

@john Legend

PATTERN BREAKER 16

Who do the test and bring the results.  Tracker in excel. 

16 groupes to attack.

Long waiting, but good results.



ludo8400

Tracker looks familiar 

How long does it take for a trigger ?

[ludo8400]

   @ peauke



MIN. 60 spins


ludo8400

[roulettefan]

ludo

hello

you play 1,2,4,8

wich progression when you loose?
to recup 15 unit?

what result you have with this pattern breaker ?

[eureka]

another looser...

[reveal]
system "pattern breaker"
{
}
method "main"
begin
    While Starting a New Session
    begin
        //Add initialize logic here
        //when a new session is started
    put 50 record "progl" data
    end

    While on Each Spin
    begin
      add 1 record "count" data
      track last low-high for 1 spin record "lastl" layout
     
      copy record "lastl" layout record "pattl" layout
      add 1 record "pattl" layout index


      if any low-high bet lost each begin
      multiply 2 record "progl" data
if record "progl" data > 200 begin put 50 record "progl" data end

end

if any low-high bet won each or record "p" data = 3 begin
put 50 record "progl" data
clear record "p" data
clear record "counterl" data
clear record "countl1" data
clear record "countl2" data
clear record "countl3" data
clear record "countl4" data
clear record "countl5" data
clear record "countl6" data
clear record "countl7" data
clear record "countl8" data

end
     
if List [low, low, high] has a pattern match to Record "pattl" layout
begin
if record "countl1" data = 0 begin
add 1 record "countl1" data add 1 record "counterl" data end
end
If List [low, high, high] has a pattern match to Record "pattl" layout
begin
if record "countl2" data = 0 begin
add 1 record "countl2" data add 1 record "counterl" data end

end

If List [high, low,  low] has a pattern match to Record "pattl" layout
begin
if record "countl3" data = 0 begin
add 1 record "countl3" data add 1 record "counterl" data end
end

If List [high, high,low] has a pattern match to Record "pattl" layout
begin
if record "countl4" data = 0 begin
add 1 record "countl4" data add 1 record "counterl" data end
end

if List [low, low, low] has a pattern match to Record "pattl" layout
begin
if record "countl5" data = 0 begin
add 1 record "countl5" data add 1 record "counterl" data end
end
If List [high, high, high] has a pattern match to Record "pattl" layout
begin
if record "countl6" data = 0 begin
add 1 record "countl6" data add 1 record "counterl" data end

end

If List [high, low,  high] has a pattern match to Record "pattl" layout
begin
if record "countl7" data = 0 begin
add 1 record "countl7" data add 1 record "counterl" data end
end

If List [low, high,low] has a pattern match to Record "pattl" layout
begin
if record "countl8" data = 0 begin
add 1 record "countl8" data add 1 record "counterl" data end
end

if record "count" data = 3 begin clear record "pattl" layout clear record "count" data end
     
if record "counterl" data =7 begin
add 1 record "p" data
if record "countl1" data =0 begin
if record "p" data = 1 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
if record "p" data = 2 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
if record "p" data = 3 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
end
if record "countl2" data =0 begin
if record "p" data = 1 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
if record "p" data = 2 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
if record "p" data = 3 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
end
if record "countl3" data =0 begin
if record "p" data = 1 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
if record "p" data = 2 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
if record "p" data = 3 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
end
if record "countl4" data =0 begin
if record "p" data = 1 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
if record "p" data = 2 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
if record "p" data = 3 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
end
if record "countl5" data =0 begin
if record "p" data = 1 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
if record "p" data = 2 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
if record "p" data = 3 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
end
if record "countl6" data =0 begin
if record "p" data = 1 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
if record "p" data = 2 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
if record "p" data = 3 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
end
if record "countl7" data =0 begin
if record "p" data = 1 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
if record "p" data = 2 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
if record "p" data = 3 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
end
if record "countl8" data =0 begin
if record "p" data = 1 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
if record "p" data = 2 begin put 100% record "progl" data low end
if record "p" data = 3 begin put 100% record "progl" data high end
end
end

    end

end
[/reveal]

[Ralph]

If we mean a method is a loser, because it can lose, not a 100% winner then all methods are losers. It must be such rules in a game like roulette, otherwise there will be no game just free money until all casinos are broke.  We can try forever, we can like or dislike any method, but never make a 100% winning in such  a game with negative expected return. A winning at the game needs luck, or at least not bad luck.

[Timo]

Tracker looks familiar 

How long does it take for a trigger ?

This long..Stratovarius - 4000 Rainy Nights   


Regards Timo

[GLC]

If we mean a method is a loser, because it can lose, not a 100% winner then all methods are losers. It must be such rules in a game like roulette, otherwise there will be no game just free money until all casinos are broke.  We can try forever, we can like or dislike any method, but never make a 100% winning in such  a game with negative expected return. A winning at the game needs luck, or at least not bad luck.

Thanks Ralph.  This should be a sticky note that every system starts with.

We all know it.  We just need to be reminded of it on a regular basis.

GLC

[Kingspin]

waiting say 12 spins before making an even chance bet is just nuts , it don't make even a tiny difference towards getting a winning bet.
The ledgend matrix bets are pure nonsense.

[Ralph]

waiting say 12 spins before making an even chance bet is just nuts , it don't make even a tiny difference towards getting a winning bet.
The ledgend matrix bets are pure nonsense.

Nuts but fun, and you stay longer if you not bet.

[Turner]

waiting say 12 spins before making an even chance bet is just nuts , it don't make even a tiny difference towards getting a winning bet.
The ledgend matrix bets are pure nonsense.

You think thats nuts...go read ***FIVE*** and ***8 on 1***....thats nuts.

[Kingspin]

Good luck to any system player , while your playing just tell the ball not to land in unbetted pockets and your system will do pretty good. You see the only problem we have to make a system win all of the time is the annoying fact that the ball does not have ears and obeys no one. Roulette is dangerous . The game can play all sorts of tricks with your mind.  Good for good mental health ?
nope many good people have been ruined by the game.  Me too in a way .     Just look at that mad grin 
need more proof!    L K  I HAVE A C L HAIR CUT...