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[buffalowizard]

Is that +97 soggett? If so that's impressive

[soggett]

Is that +97 soggett? If so that's impressive

Yep, i think so too
needs more testing though but so far so good

[atlantis]

OK. Thanks soggett,
Of course we have BV NoZero with even smaller stakes; but that is r.n.g. and I would rather play on live dealer or live autospin with real numbers...
It's just I like playing with lower stake values so I might play this with £100-£200 bankroll hit-n-run hopefully with a lockstop of +3 or +4 per session. The last way I posted is not too dissimilar to JL's "Code20" but with 5-step High/Low matrix instead. Possibly played over his "frames" idea and flatbetting it might also be worth trying out... Perhaps a stop betting rule if a string of L's occur until a virtual win happens before restart? (6 L's in a row?)
Thanks BuffaloWizard for any testing results and findings.

A. 

[buffalowizard]

LHHHH
LLHLH.   0
HHLHH.  +1.5
HLLLH.   0
HLHHH.  0
HHHLH.  0
LHLHL.   +1,5
LLLLL.    0

Atlantis can you check I got these results right? Most lines ended level but still positive overall

[buffalowizard]

HHHHH
LLLLH.   +1.5
HLHLH.  -0.5
LHHLL.   +1
LHHHL.   -2.5
LHHHL.   -7.5
LHLHL.   -1.5
HLLHL.   -2

Atlantis a tricky session that one. It has raised a question though. Does the progression carry on to the next line or is it line specific of you k is what I mean?
Cheers

[atlantis]

OK BuffaloWizard:

Continuous with progression:

LHHHH
LLHLH  -L0.5, w1, L0.5, w1, L0.5                   = +0.5
HHLHH -w0.5, w0.5, w0.5, w0.5, L0.5             = +2
HLLLH -L0.5, w1, L0.5, w1, L0.5                     =  +2.5
HLHHH -L0.5, L1, w1.5, w1, L0.5                   = +3
HHHLH -L0.5, w1, L0.5, w1, L0.5                   = +3.5
LHLHL -w0.5, L0.5, w1, w0.5, w0.5                =  +5.5
LLLLL -L0.5, w1, L0.5, w1, L0.5                     = +6

Flatbetting:

LHHHH
LLHLH.  lwlwl         = -0.5
HHLHH  :wl      = +1
HLLLH   lwlwl         = +0.5
HLHHH  llwwl         = +0
HHHLH  lwlwl         = -0.5 
LHLHL   wl:      = +1
LLLLL    l:l       = +1.5


A.

[atlantis]

HHHHH
LLLLH     +1.5
HLHLH    -0.5
LHHLL     +1
LHHHL    -2.5
LHHHL    -7.5
LHLHL    -1.5
HLLHL    -2

Atlantis a tricky session that one. It has raised a question though. Does the progression carry on to the next line or is it line specific of you k is what I mean?
Cheers

HHHHH
LLLLH    w0.5, w0.5, w0.5, w0.5, L0.5       = +1.5  (ahead at end of line so reduce to 0.5)
HLHLH   w0.5, L0.5, w1, L0.5, L1             =  +1    (behind at end of line so increase to 1.5)
LHHLL   w1.5, w1, L0.5, L1, w1.5             =  +3.5 (ahead at end of line so reduce to 0.5)
LHHHL   L0.5, L1, L1.5, w2, L1.5              =  +1    (behind at end of line so increase to 2)
LHHHL   L2, L2.5, L3, L3.5, L4                 =   -14   (behind at end of line so increase to 4.5)
LHLHL   L4.5, L5, w5.5, L5, L5.5              =  -28.5  (behind at end of line so increase to 5.5)
HLLHL   w6, w5.5, w5, L4.5, L5                =  -21.5  (behind at end of line so increase to 5.5)

Flatbetting:

HHHHH
LLLLH    :wl            = +1.5
HLHLH   wlwll               = +1
LHHLL.   wwllw             = +1.5
LHHHL.   lllwl               = +0
LHHHL.   lllll                 = -2.5
LHLHL.   llwll                = -4
HLLHL.   wwlll              = -4.5

A.

[atlantis]

Hi Buff,

It may be that the better (safer) way is still the original idea with trigger and rules as posted in Reply #17 on the topic... Think that's the way soggett tested on bacc?

A.

[soggett]

Hi Buff,

It may be that the better (safer) way is still the original idea with trigger and rules as posted in Reply #17 on the topic... Think that's the way soggett tested on bacc?

A.

actually i tested the latest version - betting against vertical dobules which just means bet against the above line, right?
maybe I just had a good streak?

[atlantis]

Hi BW,
Your session with a "stop after 6 losers rule":

HHHHH
LLLLH    w0.5, w0.5, w0.5, w0.5, L0.5       = +1.5  (ahead at end of line so reduce to 0.5)
HLHLH   w0.5, L0.5, w1, L0.5, L1             =  +1    (behind at end of line so increase to 1.5)
LHHLL   w1.5, w1, L0.5, L1, w1.5             =  +3.5 (ahead at end of line so reduce to 0.5)
LHHHL   L0.5, L1, L1.5, w2, L1.5              =  +1    (behind at end of line so increase to 2)
LHHHL   L2, STOP UNTIL VWIN               =  -1     (behind at end of line so increase to 2.5)
LHLHL   nb, nb, vwin, L2.5, L3                   =  -6.5   (behind at end of line so increase to 3.5)
HLLHL   w3.5, w3, w2.5, L2, L2.5              =  -2   (behind at end of line so increase to 3)
Bit better, one more win and back in front!

A.

[atlantis]

Can always go back to earlier idea - betting against vertical triples forming...
I refresh updated rules here. (uses same progression)

(A) Look at last 2 lines.
If there are 3 OR MORE matching vertical doubles present somewhere on the last 2 lines then proceed to bet against them forming into triples on the next line.

(B) If there are not 3 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then record another complete line of 5 results under the current line and return to (A)

(C) Stop at ANY winner on the line.

(D) Stop betting should you encounter 6 consecutive losses in a row until a virtual win is noted, after which re-commence betting at the next point in the progression.

EXAMPLE
======
L H L L L
H H H L L
L L H L L -- w0.5 @ 2nd                                                +0.5
L L L L H ---w0.5 @ 3rd                                                 +1.0
H H L H L ---w0.5 @ 1st                                                +1.5
L L H H H ---NO BET
L H H L L--- NO BET
H L H H H--- NO BET
H L H L L --- NO BET
L H L L L --- w0.5 @ 1st                                                +2.0
L H L H H --- NO BET
L H H H L ---L-0.5 @ 1st; L-1 @ 2nd; w1.5 @ 3rd           +2.0
H H L L L --- w0.5 @ 1st                                               +2.5
L H L H L --- NO BET

Good Luck.
A.

[atlantis]

Yes. Seems much better this way 

H H H L 0
H H L H H---record 2 lines
L L H H H ---nb
H L H L L ---nb
L H L L L ---nb
H H H L L --trigger (at least 3 vert. doubles formed on last 2 lines)
L L H L L ---w0.5 @ col2 ; trigger                                   +0.5
L L L L H ---w0.5 @ col4 ; trigger                                   +1
H H L H L ---w0.5 @ col1                                              +1.5
L L H H H ---nb
L H H L L---- nb
H L H H H---nb
H L H L L ---nb ; trigger
L H L L L ---w0.5 @ col1                                                +2
H L L H L ---nb
H H L H L ---nb ; trigger
L L H H H ---w0.5 @ col1                                                +2.5     
H H L H H ---nb
L L L H H ---nb
L L H H H ---trigger
L H L H H ---L0.5 @ col1; w1 @ col2 ; trigger                   +3
L H L L L ---L0.5 @ col1; w1 @ col4 ; trigger                    +3.5
L L 0 H H ---L0.5 @ col1; w1 @ col2                                +4
L H L H H ---nb ; trigger
H H L L H ---w0.5 @ col1; trigger                                     +4.5
L H L L H ---L0.5 @ 2; L1 @ col3; L1.5 @ col5 ;trigger      +1.5
H L L L L ---w2 @ col2                                                    +3.5         
L H L L L ---nb; trigger
L H L H L ---L1.5 @ col3; w2 @ col4; trigger                     +4
H H H L H --w1.5 @ col1                                                   +5.5
L H H L H ---nb; trigger
L L L L L ----w0.5 @ col2                                                   +6
H L L H H---nb
H L H L H---nb; trigger


A.

[Johnlegend]

Betting against doubles becoming trebles is safer than bet for doubles to become trebles.

[atlantis]

Betting against doubles becoming trebles is safer than bet for doubles to become trebles.

Agreed John. (I know you prefer quads and quintuplets though!      )
There's a lot to be said for those past MATRIX VERTICAL methods on the forum. They are a very good read indeed - and bring back some good memories.

[Johnlegend]

Yes Atlantis it makes the breakdown more predictable. And what I always want is as much control over random as possible. Imagine you know that over a given number of spins something always happens a minumum number of times. You start to take the random out of random. Hope bayes is sorting out the RNG Im ready to show all this in action.