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Profit Trickler

Started by atlantis, Apr 10, 06:34 AM 2011

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atlantis

A new idea stemming from MATRIX and PATTERN BREAKER methods....

Profit Trickler
========

Use HIGH/LOW results
Record lines of 5 in matrix fashion.

Begin when 2 lines are recorded.

STEP 1
Look at last 2 lines.
If there are 2 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then proceed to next step.
If there are not 2 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then record another complete line of 5 results under those and return to Step 1.

STEP 2
Bet against the vertical triples occurring ON THAT LINE starting at the appropriate point in the progression.
If/when **ANY** winning bet obtained immediately STOP betting on that line, but continue to record results until the line is complete.
When line is complete go to Step 1.

PROGRESSION
Start at 0.5u. Increase by 0.5u after a loss.
Reduce to starting bet of 0.5u if level or ahead; otherwise reduce next bet to commence at 0.5u lower than last amount staked. (for instance if win @ 2u but still behind the overall recorded bankroll high total - then next bet will be 1.5u)

EXAMPLE
========

L L H H H
H L H H L
H L L L H-----L-0.5; W+1    +0.5*
H L L H L-----L-0.5; L-1       -1
L L H L L-----W+1.5           +0.5*
L L H L L-----NO BET
H H L L L-----W+0.5           +1*
L L L L H------L-0.5; W+1    +1.5*
H H H H H----W+0.5           +2*
H L H L L-----NO BET
L H H H L-----W+0.5           +2.5*
H H L L H-----W+0.5           +3*
L H 0 L L------NO BET
L L L H L------W+0.5           +3.5*
H L L L H------W+0.5           +4*
L L 0 H L------L-0.5; L-1        +2.5
H H L L L------NO BET
H L L L L------NO BET
L H H L H------L-1.5; W+2        +3
H L L H H------NO BET
H H H H H-----NO BET
H L H H L------L-1.5; L-2; W+2.5  +2
L L L H H------W+2                   +4*
H H H H H-----W+0.5               +4.5*
L L H H L------L-0.5; W+1         +5*
H L H L L------L-0.5; W+1         +5.5*
L L 0 H L------L-0.5; L-1; L-1.5   +2.5
H H L H L-----W+2                   +4.5
L H H H L-----L-1.5; L-2            +1
0 L L L L------W+2.5                 +3.5
L L L L L-------NO BET
H H L H H-----W+2                    +5.5*

*= EQ HIGH OR NEW HIGH

A.

NOTE TO SELF: Still needing much testing... :)
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Another session following on....

H H L H H
L L H 0 H
L L L L L------NO BET
H H H L L-----W+0.5                  +0.5*
L L L L H------L-0.5; W+1            +1*
H L L L H-----NO BET
H 0 L H H-----L-0.5; L-1; W+1.5   +1*
L L H L H-----W+0.5                    +1.5*
L L L H H-----NO BET
L H L L H-----W+0.5                   +2*
0 H L H L-----L-0.5; L-1; W+1.5    +2*
L L H L H-----L-0.5; W+1             +2.5*
H L L H L-----NO BET
H L L L L-----NO BET
H H H L H----L-0.5; W+1             +3*
H H L L H-----L-0.5; W+1             +3.5*
H L L H L-----L-0.5; W+1              +4*
0 H H H L-----L-0.5; W+1             +4.5*
L L L L H------W+0.5                   +5*

Final session today:

H H H L 0
H H L H H
L L H H H ---W+0.5                  +0.5*
H L H L L ---NO BET
L H L L L ---W+0.5                   +1*
H H H L L ---L-0.5; L-1              -0.5
L L H L L ---W+1.5                   +1*
L L L L H ---L-0.5; L-1; W+1.5   +1*
H H L H L ---W+0.5                  +1.5*
L L H H H ---NO BET
L H H L L---NO BET
H L H H H---W+0.5                   +2*
H L H L L ---NO BET
L H L L L ---W+0.5                   +2.5*
H L L H L ---W+0.5                   +3*
H H L H L ---L-0.5; L-1               +1.5
L L H H H ---W+1.5                   +3*
H H L H H ---NO BET
L L L H H ---L-0.5; L-1               +1.5
L L H H H ---W+1.5                   +3*
L H L H H ---L-0.5; W+1             +3.5*
L H L L L ---L-0.5; L-1; W+1.5     +3.5*
L L 0 H H ---W+0.5                    +4*
L H L H H ---NO BET
H H L L H ---W+0.5                    +4.5*
L H L L H ---L-0.5; L-1; L-1.5       +1.5
H L L L L ---W+2                       +3.5
L H L L L ---L-1.5; L-2                 +0
L H L H L ---L-3; W+3.5              +0.5
H H H L H ---W+3                      +3.5
L H H L H ---NO BET
L L L L L ---W+2.5                     +6*

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

jon86

Nice one Atlantis  :)

Testing.

atlantis

Hi,

It's a while since I looked at this again - but I made 2 revisions. First revision is to STEP 1...


STEP 1
Look at last 2 lines.
If there are 3 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then proceed to next step.
If there are not 3 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then record another complete line of 5 results under those and return to Step 1.

The second revision is that If a ZERO occurs, I record it in the matrix as a "H" result.

EXAMPLE
======

L H L L L
H H H L L
L L H L L ---W+0.5@2nd                              +0.5
L L L L H ---W+0.5@3rd                               +1.0
H H L H L ---W+0.5@1st                              +1.5
L L H H H ---NO BET
L H H L L--- NO BET
H L H H H--- NO BET
H L H L L --- NO BET
L H L L L --- W+0.5@1st                               +2.0
L H L H H --- NO BET
L H H H L ---L-0.5@1st; L-1@2nd; W1.5@3rd +2.0
H H L L L --- W+0.5@1st                               +2.5
L H L H L --- NO BET

The main change is you must wait for THREE matching vert dbls to qualify instead of the previous two matches.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

kawa4711

Hi, atlantis,
thank you for your excellent idea of this "Profit Trickler".

I ve tested it with real money on a 4 wide matrix like:

H H H L
L H H H

so i began to bet in the third row

against the second H-
if win end if loose bet against third H

and so on...

Only betting if minimum of 2 same H or L.

Then I began to extend to Even and Odd , so sometimes I had to bet par. ex. on H and O or L and O or similar situations.
My progression was plus 1 on a loss minus 1 on a win.
In higher stakes I ve put a small amount on Zero.

My progression on H/L and E/O was :

progression string on H/L and another progression string on E/O, so it could be that you bet 3 units on par ex. H and 2 units on E and par ex a small amount on Zero.
If there hits there is in most of the games a win , when a new high is reached you can begin with 1 unit on H/L or E/O.
Till yet it works pretty good .
Best regards

kawa4711

marivo


marivo

I would suggest:

- if there are 3 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then in next line bet against the vertical triples occurring (as atlantis suggested!)
- if there are less then 3 matching vertical doubles then in next line bet for the vertical doubles occurring

You get much more bets and I think (after first tests) its much more affective too!

Halba1

Quote from: marivo on Jun 07, 08:15 AM 2011
I would suggest:

- if there are 3 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then in next line bet against the vertical triples occurring (as atlantis suggested!)
- if there are less then 3 matching vertical doubles then in next line bet for the vertical doubles occurring

You get much more bets and I think (after first tests) its much more affective too!

this is actually a good system. the goodness of it is protecting the bankroll and no nasty martingale.

Halba1

Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 07, 07:59 PM 2011
this is actually a good system. the goodness of it is protecting the bankroll and no nasty martingale.

the 3-5 unit profit target per session. if you have $30 units it is a good session.

Halba1

Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 07, 07:59 PM 2011
this is actually a good system. the goodness of it is protecting the bankroll and no nasty martingale.

the progression that is being touted here is called modified d'alembert strategy. you increase a bit on loss, and take back for a win. the benefits are - less bankroll threat, and no need to multiply to infinity. the disadvantages - long win streak followed by alternating win /loss, isn't good, as winners are occurring @ 1 unit, and losers are at higher units. and you still need more wins and losses.


albertojonas

Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 08, 02:53 AM 2011
the progression that is being touted here is called modified d'alembert strategy. you increase a bit on loss, and take back for a win. the benefits are - less bankroll threat, and no need to multiply to infinity. the disadvantages - long win streak followed by alternating win /loss, isn't good, as winners are occurring @ 1 unit, and losers are at higher units. and you still need more wins and losses.



you can simply modify d'alembert other ways.

example:
start bet 20 units: increase +3 on a loss / decrease -4 on a win
end progression as soon as wins and losses even out.

what do you think of this? have you tried it yet?

Cheers,
AL

Halba1

It works, as long as its fairly alternate and even, or where winners >= losers

actually you can have 10 losers, 10 winners, and be out on top. you'd make around 30 units total(-f -4 +3)

atlantis

Profit Trickler Plus
==============
Here I revise and extend my earlier ideas for this EC system:

Use *alternating* HIGH/LOW and ODD/EVEN results
Record lines of 6 in matrix fashion.

Begin when 2 lines are recorded eg:

H E L E L O
L E L O H O

STEP 1
Look at last 2 lines.
If there are 3 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then proceed to next step.
If there are not 3 OR MORE matching vertical doubles then record another complete line of 6
results under those and return to Step 1.

STEP 2
Bet against the vertical triples occurring ON THAT LINE starting at the appropriate point in the

progression.
If/when **ANY** winning bet obtained immediately STOP betting on that line, but continue to
record results until the line is complete.
When line is complete go to Step 1.

PROGRESSION
Start at 0.5u. Increase by 0.5u after a loss.
Reduce to starting bet of 0.5u if level or ahead; otherwise reduce next bet to commence at 0.5u
lower than last amount staked. (for instance if win @ 2u but still behind the overall recorded
bankroll high total - then next bet will be 1.5u)

IN THE EXAMPLES I RECORD THE ZERO AS A HIGH or EVEN RESULT
(or PLAY ON NOZERO ROULETTE...)

EXAMPLE
========
H O H E L O
L E L O L O
H O L O L E
H E H O L O    L0.5@1; L1@3; L1.5@5       -3
L O H O H O    L2@1; L2.5@4; W3@6        -4.5
L O L E L E     W2.5@3                              -2
L E H O H O    L2@1; W2.5@2                   -1.5
H E L O H O   
H O H O L O    W2@2                                +0.5
H E L E H E     L0.5@1; W1@4                   +1
L O H O L O     
H E L O L E
H O L O H O
L O L O H E     W0.5@1                              +1.5
H O L E L O     L0.5@2; L1@3; W1.5@4      +1.5
H E H O H O   
L O H E H E
H O L O H E
L E L O H E     L0.5@2; L1@5; W1.5@6       +1.5
L O H E L E     W0.5@3                               +2
H E H O L O     
L O H O H E
H O H O L E
L E H E H O    W0.5@2                               +2.5
H E L O H O
H O L E L O    W0.5@2                                +3
L = = = = =      W0.5@1                               +3.5  STOP

Here are the same results but now for even faster action - betting against ALL triples forming. In
this example the rules of STEP 1 and STEP 2 are ignored but the progression is the same.

H O H E L O
L E L O L O
H O L O L E   L0.5@5; W1@6                                     +0.5
H E H O L O   W0.5@3; L0.5@4; L1@5                        -0.5
L O H O H O   W1.5@1; L0.5@4; W1@5                      +1.5
L O L E L E     W0.5@3; W0.5@4; W0.5@6                 +3
L E H O H O    L0.5@1; W1@2                                   +3.5
H E L O H O    W0.5@1                                              +4
H O H O L O    W0.5@2; L0.5@4; L1@6                      +3
H E L E H E     L1.5@1; W2@4; W0.5@6                    +4
L O H O L O     W0.5@1                                              +4
H E L O L E     
H O L O H O     L0.5@4; W1@5                                  +4.5
L O L O H E      W0.5@1; L0.5@3; L1@4                     +3.5
H O L E L O      L1.5@2; L2@3; W2.5@4; W2@5         +4.5
H E H O H O     W0.5@2; W0.5@3                              +5.5
L O H E H E      W0.5@1; W0.5@6                              +6.5
H O L O H E      W0.5@3; L0.5@5                               +6.5
L E L O H E       W0.5@2; L0.5@5; L1@6                    +5.5
L O H E L E       W1.5@3; W0.5@4; W0.5@5; L0.5@6 +7.5
H E H O L O      W0.5@1; W0.5@6                              +8.5
L O H O H E      L0.5@3; W1@5                                  +9
H O H O L E      L0.5@3; L1@4                                    +7.5
L E H E H O      W1.5@2; L0.5@3; W1@4; W0.5@6     +9.5
H E L O H O      W0.5@3                                             +10
H O L E L O       W0.5@2; W0.5@5; L0.5@6                 +10.5
L = = = = =        W0.5   =STOP=                                   +11

Good Luck and Happy Winnings,
Atlantis.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

marivo

Thank you Atlantis!

atlantis

Another Way to play as others have said in another post.

Use a six-step progression of:
0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 = 31.5 units total at risk.

Record ONE line then commence betting and continue recording results.

Play the opposite EC of the result in the vertical line directly above...

STOP AT A WINNER on that line and continue recording until line complete.

Here are same results as previous post....

H O H E L O - Record first line and then play opposite
L E L O L O  W0.5@1st position
H O L O L E  W0.5@1
H E H O L O  W0.5@2 
L O H O H O  W0.5@1 
L O L E L E   W0.5@3
L E H O H O  W0.5@2 
H E L O H O  W0.5@1 
H O H O L O  W0.5@2 
H E L E H E   W0.5@2 
L O H O L O   W0.5@1 
H E L O L E   W0.5@1
H O L O H O  W0.5@2
L O L O H E   W0.5@1 
H O L E L O   W0.5@1
H E H O H O  W0.5@2 
L O H E H E  W0.5@1
H O L O H E  W0.5@1
L E L O H E   W0.5@1 
L O H E L E   W0.5@2 
H E H O L O  W0.5@1   
L O H O H E  W0.5@1
H O H O L E  W0.5@1
L E H E H O  W0.5@1 
H E L O H O  W0.5@1
H O L E L O   W0.5@2
L = = = = =    W0.5@1

26 lines x 0.5 wins = +13 units

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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