*PATTERN 4*

[Johnlegend]

Hello John & halba1,
thanks for the well timed advice and will heed it.  I kept thinking about what you posted, because as I sat there I noticed the dealer would spin 4-5 red or black in a row come back with a red or black and then string 4-6 of one color again. So playing color is off my playlist.
Also, with O/E what about using 0 for even? On second thought  I'll just use X's advice and split the 0/00.
Cd

Clothdog, if you are feeling vunerable at the moment play the losing game trigger. I don't care if it takes you longer. Get yourself to safer ground Bankroll wise. I know its easier for me to sound off about bankrolls. I didn't get safe overnight it took me years. So you need to take your time. And say aim to be invincible by years end. If I played PATTERN 4 with a losing game trigger but layed on heavy stakes I would actually make more money and so will you. We are all fighting our lack of patience. We really are, but even with a losing game trigger this method is faster than MATRIX VERTICAL 5. And the strikerate would become closer to MV5 with a trigger. So until you are powerful that would be my advice to newbies.

[amk]

Hello albertojonas,

If we are living in an illusion then it is a great one and please let us stay in it...

We will report back to you when the method fails...

deal? 

[Johnlegend]

This system the way it is designed is doomed to lose. it is a petty that you J.Legend delete my posts.
if the only true is your true why do you even post?

i didn't promisse to post nothing but good results in your thread.

the claim that color strikes more than any other even chance is complete nonsense.

man up and accept the facts.


There was another guy who deletes posts here. It was James Wendel.

I don't like your negativity fullstop. And I don't want someone who has nothing but negative jibes to offer littering my thread. If you don't like it start your own thread. And sound off about how you cannot beat the game, so therefore nobody else can beat the game. I will keep winning as will others who play the methods properly.

You are a mathematicians lapdog, who thinks whatever they say is the end of it. I know different as a fact. There will always be people who can't understand a different way of looking at things. I cannot change that flaw but it doesn't mean I have to put up with you constantly making snide remarks towards me and my methods. Start your own thread of negativity and stay off mine. Until you open your mind.

[Twisteruk]

albertojonas


JL has requested that you leave negative jibes out of his Thread, please do so.


Thank you


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[Halba1]

That's interesting a neg. trigger. that means you rule out much possibility of 2 neg in 1 session but it will take some time to achieve that.

maybe just do it normally, and have P1 and P2. I don't know what albert jonas is suggesting regarding his progressions. He is against martingale, and says you can achieve same result with other progressions. but the other progressions don't recover losses. his techniques are like flat betting, where if you have a few negative, you need same amount of positive to recover. you'll probably end up neutral in the session like that though.

its a bit waste of time doing flat bet, as roulette is a time consuming 1hr session esp. if live.

[strato1985]

well said Twister if he's not interested leave the others who are alone  !!

Is that to much to ask for from the forum

you don't watch eastenders if you hate it do you

[Johnlegend]

That's interesting a neg. trigger. that means you rule out much possibility of 2 neg in 1 session but it will take some time to achieve that.

maybe just do it normally, and have P1 and P2. I don't know what albert jonas is suggesting regarding his progressions. He is against martingale, and says you can achieve same result with other progressions. but the other progressions don't recover losses. his techniques are like flat betting, where if you have a few negative, you need same amount of positive to recover. you'll probably end up neutral in the session like that though.

its a bit waste of time doing flat bet, as roulette is a time consuming 1hr session especially. if live.

Flat betting plays into the hands of everything the maths boys believe in. House edge etc. At the same time I don't recommend suicidal progressions that put 100s of units at risk and try to outlive a losing streak. That is where the confusion comes from by critics who can't see a half way point.

Good Money management is ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL. To be successful in roulette we are risking money to win money. We need to manage that very smartly that's a given. The most important thing to master with your method is its weak points. What negative people cannot understand is I never intended P4 to be invincible. If you want that you have MATRIX VERTICAL 5 with its price for that super strikerate.

I wanted a method that had a decent turnover for real casino play. And at the same time a barrier it has no intention of passing too often. And that barrier is three consecutive losing games. In fact 4 consecutive losing games may be impossible or super rare. Here we enter MV5 territory. With a shorter waiting time.

If you want to play this method consecutively I recommend strongly implementing a losing game trigger. I have discussed this with another member and intend to post up another thread with this in mind. I recommend this is the best way forward for newbies. When you have several thousand units its easier to go straight in I do realize that. I play pattern breaker consecutively because its a different animal. And P4 will perform on the same level with a trigger. This will be food for thought over the coming days and weeks.

[Proofreaders2000]

JohnLegend this is an excellent system.  Well done.   

[strato1985]

271 wins   28 losses 1 double loss

355pts won    137 points lost


thats my full recordings to date

i just record on one long note pad document , updating a win loss total every 10 or so games .
just an idea for easy recording

[Johnlegend]

JohnLegend this is an excellent system.  Well done.   

Thankyou Proof...

[Johnlegend]

271 wins   28 losses 1 double loss

355pts won    137 points lost


that's my full recordings to date

i just record on one long note pad document , updating a win loss total every 10 or so games .
just an idea for easy recording

Nice results Strato1985, you have done better than me on double losses only one in 301 games. That to me is the value of this method. Not that it produces earth shattering winning streaks like MV5 because it doesn't. But the consistency of its losing limits.

No one has ever reported a TRIPPLE LOSS. And I think a QUAD LOSS would be rarer than 5 FIVE POINTERS for MV5 if not impossible for random to produce. that's where my enthusiasm for the method stems from. When you can identify within a playable method a virtual limit. You really can systematically beat the game day in day out.

People who use methods that fail them badly in the end suffer because they never identified the losing limit of the method. Like the guy in the book who would wait for Red or black to not show for 3 spins, then commence betting it couldn't possibly show 15 in a row of one or the other. He won a bundle. Then one day he had 18 reds staring at him and no bankroll left.

Those are the types of straight play methods that are doomed longterm. They play straight off the layout. They are the types of methods that perpetuate Roulettes lie. That its a game nobody can conquer in the longterm.

Casinos welcome you through the doors, come play our games some will get lucky most will not and at the end of the night theyve made a tidy little profit, house edge and house limits have done their job. Do you think if everybody went to the casino tonight and played PATTERN 4 the casino would make a tidy profit?

No, theyd be shell shocked, and that night if repeated over and over would really get something started. Obviously that can never happen on that scale because even if you gave this method to every player on earth. Not even 1 in a 100 would use it. Especially as its simplicity deceives its potential. But if 3 or 4 players hit a casino for a week and play big enough. Some damage will get done. And more importantly MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY. The seeds of doubt will have been planted.

Because casinos have a titanium belief the only way someone could beat them OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Is by cheating. Biased wheels and such. As done by the Palaya family some years ago. When they come to realize they were beaten fair and square by a SIMPLE mechanical method like PATTERN 4 or DIVIDE AND CONQUER. They will have more than a little concern. Their biggest concern would be the knowledge of such methods spreading to the mainstream. That is what will be visited upon them from March next year.

[strato1985]

Without doubt the strongest results I had from roulette

ALTHOUGH i've not tested many games of the other strong methods on here.

i've had one dyer day with this where I just could not win for toffee , I lost 40 units, and my test results showed many more losses for that one day. I think I measured it at one point 3-1, but since that day it just can't't lose again..

So a valuable lesson for me is if I lose two games close together I walk away for the day with the method.. Because the losing streak took 8 hours to pass until it returned to norm 12-1 which is where i've been at for over a month!!

changing wheel, playing to lose is also an option to consider or play mv5

just my own strategy moving forward to consistent winning, i'm still a newbie playing low stakes

[amk]

Hello strato1985,

May I ask how many consecutive games you won after your double loss?

Might it be possible for everyone with double loss data to post this?

Would be interesting to see....

JohnLegend I believe mentioned that he has not seen a double loss followed by less then two consecutive wins..

[Johnlegend]

Without doubt the strongest results I had from roulette

ALTHOUGH i've not tested many games of the other strong methods on here.

i've had one dyer day with this where I just could not win for toffee , I lost 40 units, and my test results showed many more losses for that one day. I think I measured it at one point 3-1, but since that day it just can't't lose again..

So a valuable lesson for me is if I lose two games close together I walk away for the day with the method.. Because the losing streak took 8 hours to pass until it returned to norm 12-1 which is where i've been at for over a month!!

changing wheel, playing to lose is also an option to consider or play mv5

just my own strategy moving forward to consistent winning, i'm still a newbie playing low stakes

Yes Strato1985, But if you had the power behind you. You could have turned even that day into a winning day. Every losing game would have been cancelled out with the next game.

You will eventually arrive at that point and never fear the game again. Also to anwser AMK Double losses for High and low are infrequent. I've had 4 in over 500 games now. And you usually get a run of winners after them.

Theres a point you reach with this method where you know you are going to show positive numbers. You can enter the cycle at the wrong time and lose your first game of the day. Or even 4 games out of 10 which again if you have the bankroll will still result in profit.

Or you could enter the cycle at the right time and watch 7-16 wins reel off consecutively.

What matters is that the majority of losing games are singular. If you have a 1,000 units and you play the game properly you are set for life. You simply grow and grow. If you have a 1000 units and you play 7,14,28 for 7 units a win. that's the right balance. When you have 2,000 units you are playing for 14 units a game. 5 wins a day is 70 units. And you are aiming to grow your bankroll by 2--5% a day. You are never going to look back, so strive to reach that 1,000 unit BANKROLL. That is the point of no return for you as a losing player and a cut in the casinos daily bread becomes your right.

[Johnlegend]

Betting unit is minimum $15. I play with $25.
cd

Clothdog hi, something I wanted to ask you. You are playing a minumum of 15$
a game. How does this breakdown. Is it 15,30,60 ? Unless your BANKROLL is at least 2000 units. That is too much. Or am I wrong?