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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 14, 03:48 PM 2011

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warrior

Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 17, 05:36 PM 2011
I found a simple way to play these methods, and with much less exposure

since most of the time is at 1st or 2nd step. limit exposure to the next steps, and only concentrate on those 2 steps. it is similar to flat bet.

e.g.

1,1.5,2 progression A
4,8,12 progression B for a few games if lose.
LIVE CASIONS  don't 1.5 in denomanation, oh ya I forgot your AN RNG PLAYER  .

The correct word is C A S I N O S.  Did your spell checker not work?  ;)

ADMIN

Halba1

re. 1.5 unit, ppl sayin,.

i am assuming people arent using $1. units. so if they are using $10 units, it is $15 accepted by casino.

i wont play rng, only BV, rest mostly will be done live. all other rngs have been tested cheating bets after 1-2mins

Midnight Player

Thanks JL, I do believe that this is the way to go. Thanks for the guidance, my game is going to improve for sure
cheers
Never never never never never never give up... Winston Churchill

Midnight Player

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 17, 11:20 AM 2011
JL

Could you please explain starting on a spin that throws the previous one out  of sequence

thanks

Hi Robeenhuut I believe JL means that he starts  the next session that is closer than say 20 spins on a spin interval different to sets of 3 so instead of 9 or 12 spins later he selects 7 or maybe 11. @JL is that correct?
Never never never never never never give up... Winston Churchill

clothdog

JL,
had a reverse of fortunes tonight. I don't know how you win 36 games in a row first game. At Casino tonight. Bad start with a loss. I hate that because now it's catch up time.   I've already had  a couple opening losses. The second game the zero came up first spin but I won on the second. Lost 3 units won 4. +1 for the night, but takes too long because of crowded conditions. I only play $25 units and to hang around for a couple of hours to get +1 is a waste of time. I make alot of money in my professional field and $25 is peanuts. :yawn: Unless I win at least $500 in a night it's a waste of time.  But I'm not a big gambler. It's only for fun.
CD

Halba1

Quote from: Midnight Player on Jun 17, 03:17 PM 2011
Hi JL, your first game winning streak is extraordinary!
Regarding the  earlier question, what I mean is I wonder what the strike rate is if one only bets on two spins, i.e. spin 10 and 11, with a 1;2 bet if it loses write it off. A loss is -3units so a strike rate of 4/1 will result in a profit and then the table limit can be used to generate good profits, here in SA a typical table minimum bet on the EC is R100 and max is R4000 so one could bet R2000 first bet then double up to R4000 on a loss. A strike rate of 4/1 would net R2000 profit. If 12 sessions were played a day then 3 wins would result in R6000 profit a day which is almost $900 profit a day...

hi midnight player. no, sometimes it takes up to a few levels 2 to make profit. this is because the 3rd letter can provide crucial outcome.

Halba1

my first session on pattern 4.

almost had a single loss, and didn't go the full way. backed out, got a bit hesitant and turned flat betting(chicken!!)

then eventually i ground myself out of a mini hole and ended up a positive session

Johnlegend

Quote from: Midnight Player on Jun 17, 03:17 PM 2011
Hi JL, your first game winning streak is extraordinary!
Regarding the  earlier question, what I mean is I wonder what the strike rate is if one only bets on two spins, i.e. spin 10 and 11, with a 1;2 bet if it loses write it off. A loss is -3units so a strike rate of 4/1 will result in a profit and then the table limit can be used to generate good profits, here in SA a typical table minimum bet on the EC is R100 and max is R4000 so one could bet R2000 first bet then double up to R4000 on a loss. A strike rate of 4/1 would net R2000 profit. If 12 sessions were played a day then 3 wins would result in R6000 profit a day which is almost $900 profit a day...
Okay I looked over my now 630 real play results for Pattern 4 Midnight. Of the 581 wins here is the breakdown

STEP 1 WINS 343
STEP 2 WINS 140
STEP 3 WINS 98

Johnlegend

Quote from: Midnight Player on Jun 18, 01:13 AM 2011
Hi Robeenhuut I believe JL means that he starts  the next session that is closer than say 20 spins on a spin interval different to sets of 3 so instead of 9 or 12 spins later he selects 7 or maybe 11. @JL is that correct?
Correct Midnight...

Johnlegend

Quote from: clothdog on Jun 18, 01:33 AM 2011
JL,
had a reverse of fortunes tonight. I don't know how you win 36 games in a row first game. At Casino tonight. Bad start with a loss. I hate that because now it's catch up time.   I've already had  a couple opening losses. The second game the zero came up first spin but I won on the second. Lost 3 units won 4. +1 for the night, but takes too long because of crowded conditions. I only play $25 units and to hang around for a couple of hours to get +1 is a waste of time. I make a lot of money in my professional field and $25 is peanuts. :yawn: Unless I win at least $500 in a night it's a waste of time.  But I'm not a big gambler. It's only for fun.
CD
Clothdog youre looking at the picture wrong. I dont know if you are aware of this but you arent supposed to be beating this game period. Whether you leave the casino with $25 or $2500 you left A WINNER.

Do that enough times and it can be your JOB. If you can do something 99% of players cant you should be happy.

Midnight Player

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 18, 05:49 AM 2011
Okay I looked over my now 630 real play results for Pattern 4 Midnight. Of the 581 wins here is the breakdown

STEP 1 WINS 343
STEP 2 WINS 140
STEP 3 WINS 98

Many thanks JL for taking the time to go through all your data!!  ;D

So a summary would go like this:

Games won: STEP 1 + STEP 2 = 343 + 140 = 483 games won

Games lost : 630 - 483 = 147 games lost

Strike rate = 483/147 = 3,29/1

If playing a two part progression of R2000; R4000 then a win nets R2000 and a loss results in R2000 + R4000 = R6000

Therefore 3.29 x R2000/ 1 x R6000 = R6580 - R6000 = R580 profit average over 4 games and R580 x 3 sets of 4 games = R1740 over 12 games give or take...

The strike rate is far below the 11.86/1  (581/49) and in my opinion a 3 part progression of 1;2;4 would net more profit instead of a two part progression of 1;2

11,86 x R1000/1 x R7000 = R11860-R7000 = R4860 for 12 games played  as opposed to R580 x 3 = R1740  (also 12 games) profit

By using a One stage, 3 part progression of 1;2;4 one achieves the standard strike rate of 12/1 as discovered by JohnLegend

This Level one progression is how I am playing Pattern 4 and is different to JL's three stage progression

Hope I have not made a mistake in my thinking and calculations...

cheers
Never never never never never never give up... Winston Churchill

clothdog

You're right John! Thanks for the kick in the ass and  so noted.  Need to focus on the big picture. :-[  I remember being at the racetrack when my friend hit a big one and I only had a few $$ on it and complained I should have bet more. He said "at least your ticket isn't on the floor like the other 95% of the bettors"
CD :thumbsup:

clothdog

Jl,
I looked at my cards from the last 2 nights. I would have played 51 games if I bet just the next line and split 0/00 as an insurance bet .
45 wins 1 loss and 5 0/00 wins.

First spin wins=23
second spin wins=12
third spin wins =10
So wagering $35 to win $25 because $ 10 goes on 0/00 split.
45x$35=$1575
$10x 51=$510 (wagered on 0/00)
$1575-$510=$1065
$85x5=$425(won on 0/00 split
$1065+$425=$1490
$1490-$210(only loss using 1-2-4 prog)= $1280

So unless my calcs on wrong this is not  a bad session.
JL, I know your record speaks for itself and  I know what the rules are but I was just wondering your take and I'm sure you looked at it betting from line to line. 1/8 is still 1/8.
Although, If I had LLL or HHH I would'nt bet next line. Your thoughts Please. thanks!
CD :thumbsup:

Hermes

People with small bankrolls can play it hunter strategy - wait for trigger. Bet after virtually losing 2 spins. With small progression you overcome the rest of trouble (1-3-7-15 on ECs)
Hermes

Johnlegend

Quote from: clothdog on Jun 18, 11:45 AM 2011
Jl,
I looked at my cards from the last 2 nights. I would have played 51 games if I bet just the next line and split 0/00 as an insurance bet .
45 wins 1 loss and 5 0/00 wins.

First spin wins=23
second spin wins=12
third spin wins =10
So wagering $35 to win $25 because $ 10 goes on 0/00 split.
45x$35=$1575
$10x 51=$510 (wagered on 0/00)
$1575-$510=$1065
$85x5=$425(won on 0/00 split
$1065+$425=$1490
$1490-$210(only loss using 1-2-4 prog)= $1280

So unless my calcs on wrong this is not  a bad session.
JL, I know your record speaks for itself and  I know what the rules are but I was just wondering your take and I'm sure you looked at it betting from line to line. 1/8 is still 1/8.
Although, If I had LLL or HHH I would'nt bet next line. Your thoughts Please. thanks!
CD :thumbsup:
This is true Clothdog. But I am not kidding with what I am about to show you. Three of my losses out of my 49 to date were as follows.

HLH
HLH
HLH
HLH

LLH
LLH
LLH
LLH

HLL
HLL
HLL
HLL

Yes I couldnt believe it either. Random was stuck in repeat mode. It would have been a treat if I had been playing MATRIX VERTICAL 5 because the wins would have come thick and fast. But those examples are the reason I advocate that 6 spin virtual wait. You will get stung alot less longterm I ASSURE YOU.

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