*PATTERN 4*

[XXVV]

Thank you for this is a most interesting statement.


I have considerable evidence, given my viewpoint bias,  that prior spins indeed do influence subsequent outcomes. I refer to it as thread, or string theory characteristic.


The influence can run in short cycles in my view, and can range from a few spins so several cycles of 37 spins.


That is my observation and practical advantage can be taken of this phenomenon. I find it most useful though to note the individual number outcomes and then schedule their various links/ characteristics.


More specifically, and as a small example I can group numbers into sets of nine ( allowing always for an exclusion) and then seek relationships/ triggers/ clusters among these sets.


I have developed several bets this way.


There may not necessarily be a long term edge but there may temporarily be offered a small window of opportunity ( as the writer has mentioned) from which considerable opportunity may arise.


Best XXVV

[Robeenhuut]

You have less chance of it being a repeat....

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=933.0

Hello Woods

This link deals with repeaters of numbers not Ec's.

Regards

[Robeenhuut]

"Why does waiting 9 spins then betting that the first 3 spins don't appear in that order for spins 10-12 increase your chance of winning .The odds are still 50/50."

The odds are 12.5%, ignoring the zeros. But the odds for that exact order of sequence are far less during that exact window of chance. If you add conditional probability of a continuing state of a characteristic then you increase the chance of avoiding the killer sequence even more.

If you plan on beating Roulette you must first understand it.

Hello Gizmotron

If you get RBR then your probability of getting a win betting immediately or waiting 9 spins like in Pattern 4 are the same. Now we are talking about chances of getting a win.  Its a different story

So you bet against RRRRBRRRBR  for example (you have 8 R's and 2 B's) and the betting history shows you 65 R's and 35 B's then based on deviation factor  your chances of getting few more B's
in the next spins and getting a win increase.  You just expect the ratio of ECs to reverse slightly towards 50 and 50 territory.
There are few systems based on deviation factor but typically you would need much bigger sample to capitalize on fluctuation in distribution.
That's my take on always popular question of if previous spins affect current spins.

Regards

[Gizmotron]

Robeenhuut - " If you get RBR then your probability of getting a win betting immediately or waiting 9 spins like in Pattern 4 are the same."

The math is very simple. You lose one out of eight tries. But you must use statistics for how often you lose on the first try of the grand martingale.  What are the odds for times lost after after waiting 20 spins? Randomness characteristics change completely after 29 spins. If you factor in change you gain two options. You can bet for it to fail the original premise.

[Robeenhuut]

Robeenhuut - " If you get RBR then your probability of getting a win betting immediately or waiting 9 spins like in Pattern 4 are the same."

The math is very simple. You lose one out of eight tries. But you must use statistics for how often you lose on the first try of the grand martingale.  What are the odds for times lost after after waiting 20 spins? Randomness characteristics change completely after 29 spins. If you factor in change you gain two options. You can bet for it to fail the original premise.

I don quite understand what you mean.  We can argue here for a very long time but its not the point. What is relevant is that in all systems like Pattern 4 or Breaker or all Matrix systems  unless you incorporate somehow deviation factor as i explained in previous post the number of spins you wait to start betting wont affect your chances of winning. You can take advantage if you observe some patterns but Pattern 4 is not better then Pattern 0 if you just play it blindly.

Regards

[Gizmotron]

Look at it this way. You should lose the grand martingale every eight tries on average. Only  in large number does that average out. That statistic must perform to the normal characteristics of randomness. There must be swarms of losses and periods of sleepers, where you don't lose for long stretches. I just don't see it ever being 50/50.

[Robeenhuut]

Look at it this way. You should lose the grand martingale every eight tries on average. Only  in large number does that average out. That statistic must perform to the normal characteristics of randomness. There must be swarms of losses and periods of sleepers, where you don't lose for long stretches. I just don't see it ever being 50/50.

Hello

At least we agree that you lose 1 time in 8 games on average. I still just dont see the logic in waiting
9 spins to start betting. How about if we wait 6 spins only?. Unless i see an evidence that proves that waiting extra number of spins increases your chances im not convinced.

Regards

[Gizmotron]

I still just don't see the logic in waiting 9 spins to start betting.

I'm not advocating this system. I'm just saying that targeting  the characteristics of randomness  improves this system.

[woods101]

Hello Woods

This link deals with repeaters of numbers not ECs.

Regards

@ Rob- I'm not advocating this system any more than any other also, but i am confused. Are you saying that the law of the third is only applicable to single number bets and not ECs or any other type of bet?

Woods

[subby]

Is it worth playing pattern breaker 4 AND pattern breaker at the same time?

I see they , along with another one, are in the Patterns tracker RC1 software

[okieredhawk]

I keep hearing  EC, what is that ? i know ---now!

[Johnlegend]

Is it worth playing pattern breaker 4 AND pattern breaker at the same time?

I see they , along with another one, are in the Patterns tracker RC1 software

Yes you can Subby especially for one a day. You will often get winning streaks that stretch way beyond 7/1 I currently have a streak of 53 for the first game of the day for PATTERN BREAKER.

[CocaVillaLaNoche]

Can we use 9 spins from the board? Or do we have to wait for 9 spins?

Does this make any difference?

[albertojonas]

1. Follow the wheel or follow how the distribution unfold.
2. Bet against the wheel or the how the distribution unfold.

Is it the same thing or is one option better then the other?
That is the question.

I would never use point 2 and allways follow as point 1.

Now some one clever say they start and end with same probability and are based upon the same math - well then some one should get deeper into study randomness.

This guy, (with all due respect) also mentioned the following several times, and i learned a lot from him and i share many opinions about roulette...


Lets say we clustering patterns of three RBB wish can come in 8 combinations.

Now if we play the same as the previous 3 then we have 1 in 8 to fail - pretty simple math and odds.
Now if we play the opposite as the previous 3 then we have 1 in 8 to fail - pretty simple math and odds.

Due to the small size equilibrium will create some heavy fluctuation and string of losses.
Then we can delay equilibrium and fluctuation.

Once in 1 million do we get 1 pattern out of 8 repeating 8 times in a row.

Now if we see the previous three as i mention above and the first colour of our previous three is the same as our first future outcome we play opposite.
Now if we see the previous three as i mention above and the first colour of our previous three is the opposite as our first future outcome we play same.

Then we have 2 in 8 wish appears to repeat once in 500.000 and we only have to place two single bets.
I don't be live any other patterns become much better then that - no matter if you play with or against or trending.

That would at least delay long strings wish would make staking in different levels make you take andvantage out of periodic distribution.


... To make things real and not just empty talk i decided to post a test of 100.000 placed bets on the above, so people get a clear idea of what they are up against with this. I used TRNG from Random.org, from the 1st of june until today. in batches of variable size. So the thing is the personal permanence and not the Hit & Run, skipping tables, etc...
This is Flat Bet.


there you go. For anyone interested i post pdf bet by bet.
cheers


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[albertojonas]

Just to give some sweet 

So if one makes this as a lifetime hobby, and plays this every time he goes to casino, he would take 3 and something years to accomplish this. 300k spins.    (1000 days, 300 spins a day)


Anyway, If one attacks after LL and let it ride once,

LL	-2
LW	0
WL	-1
WW	3

this would be the graphic, with only 24926 placed bets and 376 units won. Z-scor(ish) 2,3 or so.


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