*PATTERN 4*

[albertojonas]

For what I recon now, half of the hype around this system is made by the creator. there were better systems here that remained untested. This bet as many flaws to succeed.
John Legend I recognize you have good ideas and maybe you're an expertise on roulette so please do not deny this and try to improve it.
Despite your lack of interest in this, as I think you're a bit delighted by luck, I am sharing some points of view:

you bet for an EC wich pays 1:1
however your progression on all 3 stages risks 6:1 like 7 units ti conquer one.

imagine you would play for a dozen
with simple progression 1234 wich pays2:1
you would only risk a 5:1 ratio on the progression.
Food for thought.

Also would like to see here some real tests.

Just one from my two cents.


Best Regards

[albertojonas]

The progression wins 97.3 times out of every hundred.

How did you arrive to those numbers?

[Kingspin]

I don't think it's any where near 97.3 that was a mistake .  I am not an expert on mathmatics
but after thinking about it the chances of losing the first 3 bets (level 1) would be approx 1 in 8.
The chances of losing level 1 and level 2 probably double this at 1 in 16 approx. Does this sound right!

That 6 12 24 starting progression I would avoid like the plague, that's my own personal opinion though. I just think it could be hard work recovering on a level 1 loss probably quite a long time playing to recover. On real wheels though I am sure it would give longer winning streaks than rng..

I recently won lots with this method and  then lost a bucket full on high stakes . John i would not play big stakes when you attack your casino's !

[albertojonas]

I don't think it's any where near 97.3 that was a mistake .  I am not an expert on mathmatics
but after thinking about it the chances of losing the first 3 bets (level 1) would be approx 1 in 8.
The chances of losing level 1 and level 2 probably double this at 1 in 16 approx. Does this sound right!

That 6 12 24 starting progression I would avoid like the plague, that's my own personal opinion though. I just think it could be hard work recovering on a level 1 loss probably quite a long time playing to recover. On real wheels though I am sure it would give longer winning streaks than rng..

I recently won lots with this method and  then lost a bucket full on high stakes . John I would not play big stakes when you attack your casino's !

fresh example from earlier today...Paddy Power Casino
If anyone doubts on these spins just go check em out from the casino

[Johnlegend]

I don't think it's any where near 97.3 that was a mistake .  I am not an expert on mathmatics
but after thinking about it the chances of losing the first 3 bets (level 1) would be approx 1 in 8.
The chances of losing level 1 and level 2 probably double this at 1 in 16 approx. Does this sound right!

That 6 12 24 starting progression I would avoid like the plague, that's my own personal opinion though. I just think it could be hard work recovering on a level 1 loss probably quite a long time playing to recover. On real wheels though I am sure it would give longer winning streaks than rng..

I recently won lots with this method and  then lost a bucket full on high stakes . John I would not play big stakes when you attack your casino's !

Kingspin all the classic doubts and climb downs are being aired by you and Albertojonas. that's good. But who advocates running  before you  can walk?

The classic mistake made by every player is to move up too quickly. I will indeed be playing for higher stakes next year. But its all relative. You don't risk 42 units if your bankroll is only 200.

It should be at least 1,000 good moneymanagement is crucial to suceed with any method.  Also playing hit and run is what makes the difference with strikerate. I know already few people have anywhere near the patience to do this properly.

It defies probability, on paper yes, you should be getting around 7 wins to every loss were you to play as casinos want you to play. LIVE allnight ON THE WHEEL.

Play HIT AND RUN,'its a different animal of course you get two losses close to eachother. But once you're locked into a winning streak. that's when you push beyond all expectations. And you build the most important element of it all, YOUR BANKROLL.

The human mind is the weak link always. I'm now so far ahead with this method 20 losses in a row couldnt wipe out my profits. We have a roulette killer here. If you take my advice you are going to show positive results.

I know that people always bend somewhere. don't! Three double losses in 430 games is phenomenal. Another member is yet to even find a double loss. HIT AND RUN.

Thats how you play this method nothing else. One other point I want to make clear several of my losses were caused by the ZERO. I accept that as I know the method is dealing with house edge and STILL yielding positive results.

For TURNOVER, POTENTIAL STRIKERATE and RISK. This method is hard to beat. Other methods that can compare and surpass its results will require a small fortune to run.

Stay on track.

[Maui13]

Has no one perhaps coded this for online live wheels???

[amk]

JohnLegend,

When the zero appears during your bet sequence for PATTERN 4 (not as last bet) I assume you continue betting and accept that the zero either represents an H or L

Example:

HLL
LHL
HHL
.......   betting against HLL  (LHH)

First H appears, then the ZERO, now continue the bet sequence and bet against L...

Also, you mention that the only time you bet continually is after a loss this I assume is also the case for a double loss or do you pull out and go to another wheel?

[monaco]

to albertojonas, reply #348, on your real live session, as far as i can tell using this method, you should've bet H on Spin 49, not L (H being the opposite of spin 40, an L) & therefore won.. so you would've gone to -6 at that point, & not moved to -30.

[albertojonas]

To albertojonas, reply #348, on your real live session, as far as I can tell using this method, you should've bet H on Spin 49, not L (H being the opposite of spin 40, an L) & therefore won.. so you would've gone to -6 at that point, & not moved to -30.

yes its true, Monaco , thx. But what if?

[strato1985]

Pattern 4 results live play

120 wins  -   10 losses . No double loss yet


I'm writing this down as I play it an win it. this way you can monitor my progress an it kinda helps me out too..

we could sit an dwell on what if's all day .. these bad losses probably do exist somewhere on records.
The real question is how often does it happen??

My view damage limitation if you get caught up in one, i'e wait a while before playing another round / not betting over you BR limit 2.5% of your bankroll is a first class point

Saying that as I looked at it thats back to the 12- 1 !! at first i was at 20-1 but i've played a lot more frequent games, hit an run style . just hitting the wheel more often

[Johnlegend]

JohnLegend,

When the zero appears during your bet sequence for PATTERN 4 (not as last bet) I assume you continue betting and accept that the zero either represents an H or L

Example:

HLL
LHL
HHL
.......   betting against HLL  (LHH)

First H appears, then the ZERO, now continue the bet sequence and bet against L...

Also, you mention that the only time you bet continually is after a loss this I assume is also the case for a double loss or do you pull out and go to another wheel?

Yes treat zero as collateral damage. This is the whole point of my enthusiasm Amk the Zero may be responsible for a loss here and there but overall its ever forward.

Look I realize whenever you talk of progressions people get jittery. The thing is my staking levels are  tailored to my BR I suggest newbies stay low. 1,2,4 etc

You have to walk before you can run. Not everybody has what it takes to be a longterm winner with this game. You need to visualize where you want to be 6 months from now. Ill state it clear, theres no more testing debating to be done on my part. Scooby doo, Twister, Atlantis and myself have bestowed four methods on this forum that will beat roulette until the end of time.

Its up to all to realize their power use them, STAY WITH THEM. Until your BANKROLL is so powerful you are winning more than you earn.

Now I will help anyone to master these methods as best I can. What I cannot give you is patience and iron discipline to reach the level where you fully understand the power thats on this forum. And any that can make it to that level have a very bright prosperous future ahead of them.

[Maui13]

I had a bit of a hick-up earlier tonight when I wanted to try and make deposits, but managed and in short...here are the results:

HHH
XXX
XXX
LLL +3

HLL
XXX
XXX
HHL +1

HLH
XXX
XXX
LHH bet one would have been won, but internet delay (I live in Africa...yup internet sucs)

Closed and opened different table.

LLH
XXX
XXX
LHH +1

HLH
XXX
XXX
LLL +3

Then before I retired, I decided, just for fun, to throw 1 at RNG (the rest were all LIVE)

HLL
XXX
XXX
HLH + 3

That left me, with + 11 in a short period of time. This was all done at 888Casino. I play progression of 1,3,7

Regards,
Mauricio

[strato1985]

I think johns right

thats really good results maul13 my results are similar

i'm not goin to post all my results as i play, i've learnt a valuable lesson in keeping my own results and will do forever more.

my reason being is some will never learn, doubters will be all if's an buts .i will post if anything dramatic happens.


In the meantime i pray for twisters return to health, money is meaningless without health

[albertojonas]

I had a bit of a hick-up earlier tonight when I wanted to try and make deposits, but managed and in short...here are the results:

HHH
XXX
XXX
LLL +3

HLL
XXX
XXX
HHL +1

HLH
XXX
XXX
LHH bet one would have been won, but internet delay (I live in Africa...yup internet sucs)

Closed and opened different table.

LLH
XXX
XXX
LHH +1

HLH
XXX
XXX
LLL +3

Then before I retired, I decided, just for fun, to throw 1 at RNG (the rest were all LIVE)

HLL
XXX
XXX
HLH + 3

That left me, with + 11 in a short period of time. This was all done at 888Casino. I play progression of 1,3,7

Regards,
Mauricio

you can now loose one game but not the first

[Gordonline]

Hi All

Now started playing PB4 for real and have played 2 sessions on 888.com

Last night +3, +1, +1, +1, -7, +6 Game finished +5
Tonight +3, +1, -7, +6 Game finished +3

Even having a single loss both tines still ended in profit, have to be very strict and disciplined as JL says over and over again 

I'm treating Zero as a high number due to it being between 26 & 32, makes recording the outcomes much easier

Gordon