*PATTERN 4*

[Johnlegend]

Hello strato1985,

May I ask how many consecutive games you won after your double loss?

Might it be possible for everyone with double loss data to post this?

Would be interesting to see....

JohnLegend I believe mentioned that he has not seen a double loss followed by less then two consecutive wins..

AMK dont get too hung up on double losses. One they dont happen often and two its that THIRD game thats important. You can recover a healthy portion of the loss right there. I will give examples to illustrate this over the coming days.

[Johnlegend]

RESULTS UPDATE FOR PATTERN 4

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 510
TOTAL GAMES WON 471
TOTAL GAMES LOST 39

STRIKERATE APPROX 12/1

BALANCE 442 POINTS PLUS

DOUBLE LOSSES 4

LONGEST WINNING STREAK 37

FIRST GAME WINNING STREAK 35

Cross playing HIGH and LOW and ODD and EVEN. HIGH and LOW is still performing slightly better recent double loss was on ODD and EVEN. Two things have come to my attention of late most losses are caused when betting against three of the same such as H H H. Or by the zero. Most of the success comes from betting against mixed patterns.

[albertojonas]

I don't like your negativity fullstop. And I don't want someone who has nothing but negative jibes to offer littering my thread. If you don't like it start your own thread. And sound off about how you cannot beat the game, so therefore nobody else can beat the game. I will keep winning as will others who play the methods properly.

You are a mathematicians lapdog, who thinks whatever they say is the end of it. I know different as a fact. There will always be people who can't understand a different way of looking at things. I cannot change that flaw but it doesn't mean I have to put up with you constantly making snide remarks towards me and my methods. Start your own thread of negativity and stay off mine. Until you open your mind.

you are not being faithful to the truth.
I made some quality remarks to this system. You just knocked that off. I sincerely wish you do good with any system you design, but we live in a free world and so i have the possibility of expressing my own thoughts.
It's healthy to the community that we all share different opinions.
I just feel it is not fair to delete my posts because they criticize nor swear my person with curses of negativity and small intelligence. -Notice that i never said that you were a "stupid" believer. nothing like that.
Also if you pay attention i made constructive criticism to your system. If you reread my posts you will observe that i question most is your posted results:
No one here have tried it and has only 4 double losses as you claim.
And something you would never forget is that you are just another brick in the wall.
Not any kind of god, neither some roulette guru who claims color strikes more than any even chance...

humble up.

respect
AL

[Johnlegend]

you are not being faithful to the truth.
I made some quality remarks to this system. You just knocked that off. I sincerely wish you do good with any system you design, but we live in a free world and so I have the possibility of expressing my own thoughts.
It's healthy to the community that we all share different opinions.
I just feel it is not fair to delete my posts because they criticize nor swear my person with curses of negativity and small intelligence. -Notice that I never said that you were a "regular" believer. nothing like that.
Also if you pay attention I made constructive criticism to your system. If you reread my posts you will observe that I question most is your posted results:
No one here have tried it and has only 4 double losses as you claim.
And something you would never forget is that you are just another brick in the wall.
Not any kind of God, neither some roulette guru who claims color strikes more than any even chance...

humble up.

respect
AL

Albertojonas, do you question Strato1985 or Gordonline? Their results are better than mine. I think you have a self esteem problem. And because I am getting a degree of attention on here you resent this. What I say to you is we already know you dont like the method/s or me. There is no need to keep going on with it. You have said your piece so move on. I am never going to convince you I have this game beaten theres nothing more to be said on the issue.

Regards JL

[albertojonas]

Albertojonas, do you question Strato1985 or Gordonline? Their results are better than mine. I think you have a self esteem problem. And because I am getting a degree of attention on here you resent this. What I say to you is we already know you don't like the method/s or me. There is no need to keep going on with it. You have said your piece so move on. I am never going to convince you I have this game beaten theres nothing more to be said on the issue.

Regards JL

this kind of sh** i can not accept from you. i did not gave you the intimacy to those kind of words.
If you can not understand what i write here, it's ok for me, just do not continue on gratuity curse and do not distort the meaning of my words.Notice also that you never answer straight to my replies... I reinstate that i have nothing against your person. We are all here discussing ideas, separate waters. You may also regard with curiosity that along almost a year in this forum i never made any "negative" intended reply in any thread. Go search for them...

Respect
Al

[iggiv]

Guys let's get along. Alberto is not an ass-hole and has no self esteem problem, he is just pursuing beating roulette and probably upset that the method did not work with him. He is a good guy, John Legend u may misunderstand what he means.

so let's calm down folks and get down to beating roulette, not each other

[amk]

Thanks JohnLegend for discussing the double loses...

Really enjoy discovering, playing and researching your methods....

From what I have seen of the roulette world you are a breath of fresh air...

Always some scam or losing system being sold....

You just present your results and help people..

Ignore the small stuff.......

[Bayes]

Hi JL,

Since there has been a little 'heat' in this thread I decided to calculate just how likely your results are, according to probability theory. Now I know that you are contemptuous of mathematics, but that's ok, the maths doesn't care; it is what it is. 

Your results are:

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 510
TOTAL GAMES WON 471
TOTAL GAMES LOST 39

I haven't actually tested your system, but I understand that the chance of a loss is approx 1/8 (ignoring the zero effect).

Now the chance that you will get more than this number of losses is 99.97%, and that's relatively conservative because I haven't taken into account the zero.

I have to say, these results are so impressive that I'm tempted to give your system a trial. What's your secret?

[chrisbis]

I have to say, these results are so impressive that I'm tempted to give your system a trial.

If U do try it out ayes, U could no worse than play a few games through Ophis's MST, and select some or ALL of John's handy work.

They are all in the tracker/clicker.

It's quite interesting.   

[Bayes]

Have you been getting similar results Chris? I must admit I haven't been following the thread so I've no idea if JL's results are typical.

[strato1985]

Ok lets move on Alberto i'm not slating you but your not interested in this really so please leave us to find out in peace . if we fail then i'm a man of the nothing ventured nothing gained view.

If your not interested then why waste your time here. (that not a question i want you to answer).

John that was just one day in over a month now,  i've been there an come out the other side stronger. I had no double loss that day, even though i recorded 26 games for that day (just for experiance purposes) next time i'll handle it like a baby

On that day it was streaking high low for 8 hours, I read this at the time, but didn't react, I should have played any combination other than HHH LLL to slightly increase my chances.. experience..

Please not in my results i had 19 wins and 7 losses for that day, I've still included these in my overall stats even though i would never have played them, so my own personal strike rate is higher.

[Halba1]

As long as you don't get past the double loss, that's the killer

P3 is a nasty escalation, and will risk the bank in my opinion especially if playing with more than 1pounds. no difference to standard martingale which can threaten table limit. also the P3 progression is simply to recover ,and gain a net 1 unit. so it makes no sense to risk hundreds of pounds for 1 unit .

e.g.

1,2,4 - not too bad here eh!

8,16,32 >> still okay!

48,96,192 >> yikes...its getting hot in here!

[albertojonas]

nabos

[chrisbis]

Mixed for me at the moment, since I play at BV RNG, which is supposed to be just NOT suitable at all, but what I like, is to run ALL the MST tracker elements at the same time ("auto- experimental") and I watch how the trending goes on all johns work.

Could be a really good test, if JUST JL's Matrix bets were selected in the MST tracker/clicker, and we do a thorough "inspection" with agreed terms, stake, BR, No. of spins and other such criteria, to fully evaluate the best places for the Matrix bets to be used.

I for one will be doing such analysis over the coming weeks, and will post up exacting specifications, as to how I intend to "gauge" the results.

In essence, as U know, they all need to be in the same formate from all the testers who post up their results, for Us ALL to truly- evaluate.

[Bayes]

Thanks Chris, so I take it that your results haven't been as good as JLs. I saw that at least 2 others have done at least as well, any more? don't be shy!

Could be a really good test, if JUST JL's Matrix bets were selected in the MST tracker/clicker, and we do a thorough "inspection" with agreed terms, stake, BR, No. of spins and other such criteria, to fully evaluate the best places for the Matrix bets to be used.

That's a good idea.