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*PATTERN 4*

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 14, 03:48 PM 2011

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XXVV

Thanks JL for this really helpful and updated overview.

I cant wait to get back into PatternBreaker again and overview the P4 and the other variations, then link/ run parallel to D+C.

You sure are correct with regard to the patience requirement. It is my hope that the key characteristics and qualities of these various systems can be understood, thanks to a lot of effort you and Scooby Doo, and others have gone to, and then be able for all of us to pick and choose and utilise these excellent tools to take steady, realistic and achievable consistent profit.

As you rightly say, there are many looking for easy fast answers, and it just doesn't work like that. The 'negative expectation' of the theoretical probability based mathematics that some apply to roulette seems in many cases to be mirrored by a 'negative expectation' attitude.

This needs to be shattered and replaced with an understanding, earned by right of hard work, that consistent and realistic profit is, and can be earned, with a professional attitude and wise use of clever methods and a further understanding that it is the mathematics of 'the game' we need to be looking at.

In such short cycles we can overturn the so called negative expectation, and by trial and error application of key triggers and stops, and an understandings of timing, and the forces at work in roulette, just below the surface, we can succeed.

Really looking forward to a phase in the coming 4-6 weeks endeavouring to explore and develop these ideas and offer at least a few further specific pointers to help us all.

I like the suggestion of JL that we can accelerate some methods by running a few EC bets for example simultaneously, and that in itself will necessitate careful and skillful management.

Thanks to JohnLegend for his tireless efforts to assist everyone.



Midnight Player

Just a thought, I intend to cover the Zero (I play on a single zero table, B&M) and since the zero is situated between two High numbers on the wheel, perhaps the Zero could be considered a Low number, so when betting for a Low result (against a High in the P4 pattern) place a small wager on the Zero as it may hit since its a "Low" number...

And to add to that, perhaps one could consider any Zero in the first 9 spins as being a "Low" number instead of not playing that session due to the zero...

Never never never never never never give up... Winston Churchill

strato1985

I agree John is the most helpfull members on this forum ( john must be consistently winning he got lots of free time to talk!!)

The positive and constructive attitude of its members that  makes this forum the best of its kind

I am winning consistently but very small amounts with p4 and pattern filler . i use the tracker to wait for losses as trigger if i play more than one hit an run game. I feel a lot safer this way


also never seen double loss for pattern filler! h/l..      I have for o/e though

if i can keep it up for another month i will invest my own hard earned money and increase my BR

Johnlegend

Quote from: XXVV on Jun 20, 04:40 PM 2011
Thanks JL for this really helpful and updated overview.u

I can't wait to get back into PatternBreaker again and overview the P4 and the other variations, then link/ run parallel to D+C.

You sure are correct with regard to the patience requirement. It is my hope that the key characteristics and qualities of these various systems can be understood, thanks to a lot of effort you and Scooby Doo, and others have gone to, and then be able for all of us to pick and choose and utilise these excellent tools to take steady, realistic and achievable consistent profit.

As you rightly say, there are many looking for easy fast answers, and it just doesn't work like that. The 'negative expectation' of the theoretical probability based mathematics that some apply to roulette seems in many cases to be mirrored by a 'negative expectation' attitude.

This needs to be shattered and replaced with an understanding, earned by right of hard work, that consistent and realistic profit is, and can be earned, with a professional attitude and wise use of clever methods and a further understanding that it is the mathematics of 'the game' we need to be looking at.

In such short cycles we can overturn the so called negative expectation, and by trial and error application of key triggers and stops, and an understandings of timing, and the forces at work in roulette, just below the surface, we can succeed.

Really looking forward to a phase in the coming 4-6 weeks endeavouring to explore and develop these ideas and offer at least a few further specific pointers to help us all.

I like the suggestion of JL that we can accelerate some methods by running a few EC bets for example simultaneously, and that in itself will necessitate careful and skillful management.

Thanks to JohnLegend for his tireless efforts to assist everyone.



Exactly XXVV,you have the perfect way of expressing things. What I am currently doing is analyzing the breakdown of PATTERN BREAKER once 5 of the 8 possible patterns have been formed.

Here is what I've learnt so far. When you have three patterns remaining. You cannot say with any accuracy how long theyll take to show. But, you will seldom have to bet more than three times to nail one. EXAMPLE, Lets say these are our last three remaining patterns.

HLH
LLL
LHH

From what my analysis is showing me, if you were to wait until the first two parts of one of those patterns have formed. It rarely takes more than three attempts to nail it. So if we had this

HL.. You are very lightly to hit H in no more than three attempts most of the time. The reason I have taken it upon myself to explore the breakdown of a game more thoroughly. Is to make the most of the time invested in a game. There are now four oppurtunities to exploit, the sixth pattern, the seventh pattern and then finally the eigth both against and for. I have already played 20 games in this fashion seeking and achieving four wins per game.

Never being pressed beyond three attempts to nail the third part of a pattern. This now makes the time invested more worthwhile I believe. And with PATTERN BREAKER, you are allowing random to work for you. As XXVV would say, its truly fascinating watching the forces pull those final patterns into place. You flow down the stream of random instead of against it.





clothdog

I'm sorry, but what is PATTERN BREAKER?  I know PB4, Code 4, D&C.Thanks!
CD

warrior

Quote from: clothdog on Jun 21, 10:40 AM 2011
I'm sorry, but what is PATTERN BREAKER?  I know PB4, Code 4, D&C.Thanks!
CD
CD If you want to find anything go under search .

amk

JohnLegend,

Just as a quick brainstorm...

From your data how often have you seen the following pattern repeat itself consecutively.....

HLH
HLH
HLH



or any other combination except HHH and LLL

This would be interesting to note, if it is not more than 5 I would be willing to wait for a trigger and use a six step progression...

Hermes

There are no pattern which repeats more or less. The differences are only temporary. You can use them only in the same game. Next game will have different favorites.
I wrote 37 spins of ECs and then bet next 37 spins against the appearance but sometimes I would win if I would bet the same.
Hermes

Johnlegend

Quote from: amk on Jun 21, 10:52 AM 2011
JohnLegend,

Just as a quick brainstorm...

From your data how often have you seen the following pattern repeat itself consecutively.....

HLH
HLH
HLH



Por any other combination except HHH and LLL

This would be interesting to note, if it is not more than 5 I would be willing to wait for a Ptrigger and use a six step progression...
I've never seen more than five of any pattern AMK. Thats another virtual limit I believe and its part and parcel of the reason MV5 E/C works.

Twisteruk

five is my limit too

but I have seen 11 vertical hits in a row, example


HLH
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Its Set In Stone =)

Maui13

O MY HAT TWISTER!!!

That would ruin anyone's day if it were played!!!
Trust the timing of your life!

Johnlegend

Quote from: Maui13 on Jun 21, 11:49 AM 2011
O MY HAT TWISTER!!!

That would ruin anyone's day if it were played!!!
Yes Twisters example isnt unique. While playing PATTERN BREAKER AND MV5 Ive seen 14 Highs and 12 lows in a VERTICAL LINE. That said MOST dont live beyond 7 so even that could be forged into something profitable.

Johnlegend

PATTERN 4 RESULTS UPDATE FOR 01/07/2011

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 750
TOTAL GAMES WON 694
TOTAL GAMES LOST 56

STRIKERATE APPROX 12/1

BALANCE 708 UNITS PLUS

DOUBLE LOSSES 6

LONGEST WINNING STREAK 35

LONGEST FIRST GAME WINNING STREAK 41

This method played in conjunction with PATTERN BREAKER, is performing very solidly. I am playing both HIGH and LOW and ODD and EVEN. There is little between them for performance.

Midnight Player

Quote from: Johnlegend on Jul 01, 07:02 PM 2011
PATTERN 4 RESULTS UPDATE FOR 01/07/2011

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 750
TOTAL GAMES WON 694
TOTAL GAMES LOST 56

STRIKERATE APPROX 12/1

BALANCE 708 UNITS PLUS

DOUBLE LOSSES 6

LONGEST WINNING STREAK 35

LONGEST FIRST GAME WINNING STREAK 41

This method played in conjunction with PATTERN BREAKER, is performing very solidly. I am playing both HIGH and LOW and ODD and EVEN. There is little between them for performance.


Many thanks for the update JL, I will be focusing on this method of play in the very near future and will post my results. Checking on my data I have a 12/1 strike rate on H and L and maybe 11/1 on Odd and Evens, but Red and Black seem to be at 9/1 or worse, very strange indeed, possibly just my particular unique set of random selections... I will Play only H and L and Odd and Evens... I will also only play a level 1 progression of 1;2;4 and increase my chip value as my BR grows...
Never never never never never never give up... Winston Churchill

Johnlegend

Quote from: Midnight Player on Jul 02, 02:48 AM 2011

Many thanks for the update JL, I will be focusing on this method of play in the very near future and will post my results. Checking on my data I have a 12/1 strike rate on H and L and maybe 11/1 on Odd and Evens, but Red and Black seem to be at 9/1 or worse, very strange indeed, possibly just my particular unique set of random selections... I will Play only H and L and Odd and Evens... I will also only play a level 1 progression of 1;2;4 and increase my chip value as my BR grows...
Look at the wheel Midnight another member commented on the difference of layout between red and black and the other two even chances. Now considering that is the medium the ball is spinning around. There could be something to it, why Red and black doesn't par with the other two. And where do people PILE THEIR CHIPS?

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