*MATRIX VERTICAL 5* (FOR HI & LO)

[Post]

ok simpel question , anyone still playing this ? I know i am and have some real good profits to show for it . still the most succsesfull system on the forum for sure.

[KCIN012]

Yes I still play, and probably my best method too.
Although I wait for 5 before I play!

Nick

[Post]

Yes I still play, and probably my best method too.
Although I wait for 5 before I play!

Nick

live or RNG ? because i play live and if you have to wait for a 5 pointer you can wait whole night without betting at all    so i wait for 2 trip/ quads in a row and bet agains 6 of it forming after eacht other. progression 1-2-4-8

[KCIN012]

I play RNG
As you say live, you might not get a bet all night.
Nick

[Post]

I play RNG
As you say live, you might not get a bet all night.
Nick

thats why i bet AGAINST 5 pointers live 

[foreverBOB]

Hi post, i got to reread this thread, but was wondering about ashwinsha his explanation on previous page 17. Could you please verify, it seems they were doing it wrong since not only they bet against a five pointer, but continue bettin against a six, seven, eight pointer and so on.
I thought after a five pointer miss, we need to track a quad again and bet against a five pointer a second time in progression and so on, hoping for a first win after a quad has formed.
Could you confirm or correct me?
Thanks,
Bob

[teo]

I play RNG
As you say live, you might not get a bet all night.
Nick

--Not only all night but the next night also.....Ridiculous kind of method...unless you have
a method that you could win night session playing each spin then you have no chance playing it in casino.RNG ??better give to the charity.....

[RouletteKnight]

My honest opinion, I am not to sold on this method.

Reason being, it is a martingale progression. 1,3,9,27.

Martingale's give an illusion of winning. 99% of the time you win small, but that 1% loss will eliminate all your wins and more...

To add more illusion to this effect, you only get to bet so rarely and its encouraged to play this method live (like someone said you could sit for 200 spins and not even bet once). Give a noob gambler a martingale system which makes you place a bet every spin. Even then, he could go on winning for days, or weeks before hitting the bad streak. Give someone this matrix martingale system where you only bet once or twice every day, and the "winnings" could stretch for months or even years before the bad streak hits you...Notice, your "winnings" a year doesn't mean anything, what matters more is the bet frequency.

Five 5 pointers in this case would mean a dozen appearing 5 times in a row before you lose the progression. this happens (1/3)^5 which is 1/243 times.

So yes, if you play this method every day and place a bet once every day, you will "win" all the days until the 243rd day when your progression goes bust. Of course, 243rd day is the mathematical expectation if you bet once a day. But you could bust on the first day or go bust on the 1000th day, you never know.

Just my honest opinion, I know there are supporters of this method but im just speaking my mind don't bash me too hard... 

[TwoCatSam]

I won't bash you at all.  I argued the same points with John Legend and he told me he'd show me how to put my Grandson through college!  Don't get me wrong--I like John, but all his "hit and run" and wait "darn near forever" is just a lot of hooey. 

I played his Code Something or Some Number for a few days and it lost.  As I told the group, I would pay to have the darn thing botted because I've got better things to do that sit for an hour waiting to lose.

Just my opinion.  Anyone disagree, let's bot the son-of-a-gun and see!!

Sam

[Azim]

I won't bash you at all.  I argued the same points with John Legend and he told me he'd show me how to put my Grandson through college!  Don't get me wrong--I like John, but all his "hit and run" and wait "darn near forever" is just a lot of hooey. 

I played his Code Something or Some Number for a few days and it lost.  As I told the group, I would pay to have the darn thing botted because I've got better things to do that sit for an hour waiting to lose.

Just my opinion.  Anyone disagree, let's bot the son-of-a-gun and see!!

Sam

Sam, I don't want to sit and read. Can you brief this method/system.

I will code it out for bet voyager.

[TwoCatSam]

Azim

I will tell you with brevity..............

This is a "triad" as I call it:  HLH  For each EC there are eight possible triads.  For H/L they are:

HLH
HLL
HHH
HHL
LLH
LLL
LHL
LHH
 
Those are in no particular order as they don't need to be.

The system:  Begin tracking triads.  Each triad that is an exact repeat of one that has already occurred is a non-event.  Scratch through it and move on.  When you have seven of the eight unique triads, you bet the eighth will NOT appear.

Example:

HLH
HLL
HHH
HHL
LLH
LLL
LHL............the last triad in my above example is missing:  LHH  Your bet is then for HLL to appear in three bets.  You bet a martingale: 1 2 4.  In the rare event you lose, you just chalk up the loss and move on.

John allowed as how you would always have a win rate that was more than the 7 you occasionally lost.  He claimed a loss of about 1 in 10, giving you a three-unit profit for that run.

See how incredibly slow this could be EVEN if you did win 3 for every 10??

Unclear?   Just ask...

Sam

An aside:  Ophis included this in his MST tracker and one can see it does play very evenly; perhaps more so than anything I've seen.  No big swings one way or the other.  That was my finding; you may find different.

[Azim]

Thanks Sam,
HHH
HHL
HLH
HLL
LLL
LLH
LHL
LHH


What if I have

HLH
HLL
HLH <- Repeat

Can I do this ignore the repeat and spins before it?
HLL
HLH
LLL
HHH
HHL
LLH
LLL <-Repeat

Wait for next spin to track

[TwoCatSam]

HLH
HLL
HLH <- Repeat

Strike it out!  It did not happen.  Move on.

By the way............

I know this is not what was posted in the original by JL.  This is what I tested myself.  This is what I would faint if worked.  John says "hit and run" makes it work and he advances a good case for it.  I still think about it a lot.

Sam

[KCIN012]

I play this method quite often
in a 4 wide matrix
Only on hi-lo, and wait for 5 vertical matches
then bet against it becoming 6. and only up to 5 steps marty.
HLLH
LLHH
HLHL
LLHL
HLLH
L.................BET HERE 5 STEPS
But only play for =+5 units then stop
And play again after a break..

[TwoCatSam]

And there you have it........

It could be horizontal, vertical or even diagonal.  It does not matter.  Yes, it's rare to see these things lose, but like it has been pointed out above, when they do lose, they lose it all and then some.

I have to see it work to believe it.

Sm