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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 17, 02:39 PM 2011

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Turner

I did the 2 cat shuffle with all of Legends stuff.
John was weak on progression...which is a bummer when all your ideas may of been much better if you just wernt so weak on progression.
I didnt see any logic in the bet selections either. They were just plastic leather or fake fur.....looked real from a distance...but when you get up close...you realise its an illusion.

Azim

Quote from: Turner on Feb 19, 01:26 PM 2014
I did the 2 cat shuffle with all of Legends stuff.
John was weak on progression...which is a bummer when all your ideas may of been much better if you just wernt so weak on progression.
I didn't see any logic in the bet selections either. They were just plastic leather or fake fur.....looked real from a distance...but when you get up close...you realise its an illusion.

:ooh: In other words you saying this is a waste of time!!!! :question:
:sad2: Every system/method is a waste of time. In the long run.   :yawn:
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Turner

Yes....over complex and deadly boring

TwoCatSam

So, Azim, will you code it anyway?
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

ddarko

Quote from: Azim on Feb 19, 01:40 PM 2014
:ooh: In other words you saying this is a waste of time!!!! :question:
:sad2: Every system/method is a waste of time. In the long run.   :yawn:

Does that mean you have given up on the GUT Azim ?

O0

KCIN012

Would be great if you could code it Azim
With the option to change from say 4 down then bet, and 5 down then bet, or even up to 6 down
Before betting.
In a 4 wide matrix.
Nickx

Azim

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Feb 19, 02:36 PM 2014
So, Azim, will you code it anyway?


Yes Sam.  I will code this..  Just trying to make it dynamic if someone wants to try 3 , 4 or 5 or 10, be it either vertical, horizontal or both.

Their choice.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Azim

Quote from: ddarko on Feb 19, 02:46 PM 2014
Does that mean you have given up on the GUT Azim ?

O0

I will never give up on GUT.  GUT is where my mouth and money go.  It is the system/method that will consistently win, no luck required, if you can master it. If you are down, it is a grind to make it back to even or make a profit. It does come back. It's flat bet so no major impact on bankroll.

I am currently on a hunt for an even chance bet that I can make the bot play while waiting for GUT numbers. In order to avoid been disconnected due to inactivity.  This or the stupid Invisible method might do the trick.
The reason why I say the invisible, I can download fresh data from random.org and use it to play. Make it very real dynamic, win 3-4 and change the look up numbers.(I also don't have to use the dozens, I can pattern match even/odd, high/low or red/black. Play against it or play for it to form the way i have it in file, less bankroll with even chance).

I am hoping you know what I mean.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

ddarko

@ Azim

ok, that's fair enough  :thumbsup:

The only reason I asked was because that quote I posted in my previous reply implied that you may have "given up the chase" period.

Glad to see you are flat betting  8) the best Money Management ANYBODY could play IMHO

O0


amk

Play PB after a virtual loss Azim, or as JL used to say make your next 3 step progession count after a loss.

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 5,500
TOTAL GAMES WON 5,013
TOTAL GAMES LOST 487
STRIKERATE APPROX 10/1
BALANCE 5,237 POINTS PLUS
DOUBLE LOSSES 5


Remember we discussed this way back Sam? I can't find the thread though, would be interesting to see again.

TwoCatSam

AMK

Yes, I recall.

Now, let me ask a couple of questions.  There are so many of these matrix ideas floating about, I get confused.  Are we talking about the following, as I posted to Azim:

Azim

I will tell you with brevity..............

This is a "triad" as I call it:  HLH  For each EC there are eight possible triads.  For H/L they are:

HLH
HLL
HHH
HHL
LLH
LLL
LHL
LHH

Those are in no particular order as they don't need to be.

The system:  Begin tracking triads.  Each triad that is an exact repeat of one that has already occurred is a non-event.  Scratch through it and move on.  When you have seven of the eight unique triads, you bet the eighth will NOT appear.

Example:

HLH
HLL
HHH
HHL
LLH
LLL
LHL............the last triad in my above example is missing:  LHH  Your bet is then for HLL to appear in three bets.  You bet a martingale: 1 2 4.  In the rare event you lose, you just chalk up the loss and move on.

John allowed as how you would always have a win rate that was more than the 7 you occasionally lost.  He claimed a loss of about 1 in 10, giving you a three-unit profit for that run.

See how incredibly slow this could be EVEN if you did win 3 for every 10??

Unclear?   Just ask...


If that is the correct one, are you saying to skip the first possible bet and then do what?  Bet three times?  One of them would be directly below where you skipped:

HLH
XHL
?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Azim

Quote from: amk on Feb 19, 05:18 PM 2014
Play PB after a virtual loss Azim, or as JL used to say make your next 3 step progession count after a loss.

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 5,500
TOTAL GAMES WON 5,013
TOTAL GAMES LOST 487
STRIKERATE APPROX 10/1
BALANCE 5,237 POINTS PLUS
DOUBLE LOSSES 5


Remember we discussed this way back Sam? I can't find the thread though, would be interesting to see again.


ok  let me get this right...


I will start with vertical   ->  the options will be minimum 3 Columns to as many as you want.

I am taking 4 Column example and trigger count of 3 or 4 for this example(it will be left as 1 option of either 3 to as many as you want to wait for your trigger.

LHLH
HLLH
HHLL<- for those that want 3 as a trigger here is 3 in column 3.
LLLL<-  for those that want 4 as a trigger here is 4 in column 3. Playing 3 your first loss.
LLHL <- fot hose waiting for 5 and more missed i have to re count, 3 and 4 win.

Is this correct for vertical?


For horizontal,  I have to create all the possible combinations.
When the last one is missing in the spin sequence, that will be the trigger?

I can already see people using horizontal  will be waiting for hours before they can place a bet..

:question:  Is that what everyone want's or forget the horizontal?

With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

amk

Hello Sam,

Based on JLs live stats, which I believe to be honest, the rare event of a double loss should be acknowledged.

You have the concept right Sam.

After 7 patterns have appeared (including repeats) we bet against the 8th missing/unhit pattern to land directly.

Granted, all methods will fail "longterm"

However, my feeling is that the double loss win to loss average can be consistent in PB "longterm".

Either way, double losses are rare. JL exploited the double loss factor and was able to generate +5000 units with only a 10/1 strikerate.

I dont think JL made these stats up. He played (plays?) his hit and run and records (recorded) the results.







amk

I am referring to PATTERN BREAKER Azim.

Which can be played with a bot live online, or you could pay some one to play for you in a real casino : )

Azim

Quote from: amk on Feb 19, 06:28 PM 2014
I am referring to PATTERN BREAKER Azim.

Which can be played with a bot live online, or you could pay some one to play for you in a real casino : )

Ok.  Sam,

8 patterns.

They can be in any order as long as I have any 7 in any order within spin count of 7 for it to be considered as a trigger, am i right?

With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

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