*MATRIX VERTICAL 5* (FOR HI & LO)

[amk]

You have 8 patterns Azim

1   HHH
2   HHL
3   etc.
4
5
6
7
8


Cross them off one by one until one is left.

[TwoCatSam]

Azim

Not within seven spins, no.  It can take 50 or more to find the missing triad.  That was the problem I had with it;  I would not live long enough to test it!  Don't know how else to explain it. 

AMK

Are you saying bet for the missing triad and if you lose all three bets, immediately bet for it again?  A six step Marty?  1 2 4 8 16 32?

Sam

[Azim]

You have 8 patterns Azim

1   HHH
2   HHL
3   etc.
4
5
6
7
8


Cross them off one by one until one is left.

Ok. I think I got it..  Keep tracking them as long as at the end of 20th spin there is 1 left. That becomes the trigger?

[KCIN012]

Excuse me for asking but why has the "Matrix Vertical 5" thread
Changed to "Pattern Breaker"
Im sure any new members looking,wont have a clue whats going on.
Nick x

[TwoCatSam]

Azim

Ok. I think I got it..  Keep tracking them as long as at the end of 20th spin there is 1 left. That becomes the trigger?

Somehow, what I'm saying is getting lost in cyberspace!  There is no limit on spins.  You could get a trigger in a minimum of 21 spins (3 x 7) or a hundred or more.

Let me try again:

HLH
HLH
HHL
HHH
HHL
HHL
LLH
LLL
LLL
LHL
LHL
Look at the above seven triads.  One is missing; the one below.
LHH

Look at the red ones.  They are ones that repeated.  You will see this a lot and that is why it takes so long.  In the above example, you would bet for LHH NOT to appear.  Your bet would be HLL.  If LHH does appear on the final three spins, you have a perfect set of 8 triads, all that are possible.  JL says that is very, very rare.  No, it isn't.

KC

Sorry, ol' Bean.  I did that.  It makes no difference as there are a dozen variations of John's work.  All ask you to do basically the same thing:  Wait until a matrix nearly forms and then bet that it won't.  Same as waiting for four reds and betting a fifty won't appear.

Sam

[Azim]

Azim

Ok. I think I got it..  Keep tracking them as long as at the end of 20th spin there is 1 left. That becomes the trigger?

Somehow, what I'm saying is getting lost in cyberspace!  There is no limit on spins.  You could get a trigger in a minimum of 21 spins (3 x 7) or a hundred or more.

Let me try again:

HLH
HLH
HHL
HHH
HHL
HHL
LLH
LLL
LLL
LHL
LHL
Look at the above seven triads.  One is missing; the one below.
LHH

Look at the red ones.  They are ones that repeated.  You will see this a lot and that is why it takes so long.  In the above example, you would bet for LHH NOT to appear.  Your bet would be HLL.  If LHH does appear on the final three spins, you have a perfect set of 8 triads, all that are possible.  JL says that is very, very rare.  No, it isn't.

KC

Sorry, ol' Bean.  I did that.  It makes no difference as there are a dozen variations of John's work.  All ask you to do basically the same thing:  Wait until a matrix nearly forms and then bet that it won't.  Same as waiting for four reds and betting a fifty won't appear.

Sam

Ok.. I got it. I will have the tracker for you all

[Azim]

Here is the tracker for the Pattern Breaker.

Load the file using the button.

Step will take you one spin at a time.

Run will do a match on all 7 patterns when 1 is left it will tell you which one to bet on.
Click on step to check your numbers. Once you happy click run again and it will stop once 7 patterns are found.
This is just a tracker to check the method/system.

Good luck to you all.

By the way.. if i have LL0(zero)  I am ignoring it. As a matter of fact any pattern with 0 is being ignored.

[TwoCatSam]

Azim

I have a file of 10,000+ spins on my desktop.  I loaded them and began testing.  As I expected, the win/loss rate prevents any profits from accruing.

As I also said, this thing plays very evenly.  Seems there are no wild downward spirals.  I plan to do a manual test of the whole 10,000+ and see what kind of outside progression could be applied to create a CWB.  A profitable excursion through the Land of Random.  Maybe we can beat the one-eyed monster together.

Thanks for your work.

TwoCat

[ugly bob]

Would it not make sense to track all three e/c's if you are playing pattern breaker.

The actual bet is a 7/1 chance meaning you will get long absences and then a flurry of the missing patterns hitting one after the other. So why not track all three e/c's and play the one where the missing pattern has went AWOL the longest.

I have seen 5 successive hits of the missing pattern on a few occasions during my testing. But I have also seen long runs (25+) of absence. A six line can go missing for 20+ and that's only a 5/1 payout so it stands to reason a 7/1 chance can go on a long run without appearing.

Tracking all three e/c's and sticking to betting against the pattern with the longest absence would allow you to catch that long run. It's especially important if you are trying to recover from some losses.

[TwoCatSam]

Bob the Ugly

I've give a lot of thought to your last post.  Please excuse me if this sounds blunt.

Basically, what you are saying is that if one EC by itself won't work, three will--or at least, have a better chance of working.  That's like saying Sam can't fly the plane, but find a couple of numb nuts like Sam and the three of them can.  Nope!  Not gettin' on the plane!

I do think there is a possibility that this method reduces volatility and that's all we need.

Sam

[ugly bob]

Basically, what you are saying is that if one EC by itself won't work, three will--or at least, have a better chance of working. 

Sam, that's not the point I was trying to make.

What I am saying is that the variance of the wins will differ between long spells and short spells.

So it makes sense (to me at least) to ride with the longest winning run until it stops.

I will make up a sheet and show you what I mean. Maybe I didn't explain it the way I was intending for it to come out.

cheers

[ugly bob]

8    3   3
2    6   4
5    4   2
7    5   6
1    2   8
7    7   7
4    1   2
1    2   5
1    5   8
8    4   2
8    6   3
4    1   4
6    4   5 (3 column1)
5    5   1
4    4   4
4    7   3
1    1   1
1    7   2
4    4   6
1    8   5
4    5   6
1    4   5
7    4   2
2    7   2
3    8   7 (3 in column 1..run of 12) (8 column1)
3    4   2
8    1   8 (8 in column 1..run of 2) (6 column1)
5    3   4
1    7   6
6    5   4 (6 in column 1..run of 3)


I downloaded these numbers ranging from 1-8 from random.org

The 1-8 represents the 8 patterns. RRR..RRB..RBB..RBR..BBB..BBR..BRR..BRB.

You can see that the 3 (RBB) is the first missing pattern in column 1. So you bet BRR.

You would win 11 bets before the 3 (RBB) appears. Now the new missing pattern is the 8 (BRB)

You would only win 1 bet before the 8 (BRB) appears. Now the missing pattern is the 6 (BBR)

You would only win 2 bets before the 6 (BBR) appears.

So the 'skips' in column 1 are 12, 2, 3.

So you would have won/lost +4, -6, -5.

Some of the columns will produce short skips like 2 and 3 above in clusters.

Other columns will produce clusters of longer skips. It's just the way variance works.

So my suggestion is to track all three columns and just play the one producing the longest skips at the time.

Of course there are no guarantees. But I tested this Pattern Breaker idea many years ago and you will get eaten alive by the column that is producing short skips. Tracking all three gives you a better chance to win in my opinion.

cheers

[Buffster]

Sam

Looking at your Triad idea in conjunction with Ugly Bob's 3 EC's ....

You play each EC in rotation. So 1 bet would be R/B the following bet would be E/O and the next bet H/L...

All clear so far ?

Keeping track of the Triads like UB tracks them ... So when it's the R/B bet you look at column 1 and check what the first and second outcomes of the current Triad is and bet FOR or AGAINST the third outcome.

Looking at the columns I noticed that they're pretty much 50/50 whether you play for or against the outcome. ( For being SAL and against being DFL ).

But there is always that column that has the out of sync effect in it and if you follow the higher outcome for that column ( and every column for that matter ) would you not get better results on your bets.


I know this sounds confusing...but it's really all clear in my head ....

Need a better explanation ... just ask and I'll try to cough one up.

B

[Buffster]

Sam

Been tracking my above method manually on only 1 EC .... Gets complicated to track and follow on one EC so on all three EC ... WHEW !!!


But just with the one EC using a 1,2,4 progression in case of a loss, and betting only on every third spin to complete the Triad ... I use a last three decision to determine whether I go FOR or AGAINST the Triad.

Things are looking VERY interesting.


Keep ya posted

B

[Buffster]