DIVIDE & CONQUER

[GLC]

Jointu,


Glad to hear that you're getting some use out of that progression.  It's actually about as old as the hills.  First heard of it from the Monte Carlo Anecdotes book written in 1910.  It's called the bread winner system and it's supposed to be played on the even chances.  Actually, using it on a double dozen bet should make it an even safer bet because of increased chances of getting a hit.  Good use of the idea.


I know it would make it a lot more complicated, but I wonder if playing each dozen  with it's own progression would make any difference.  It would mean betting different amounts on each dozen at times, but it may make the system a little less volatile.  Or it could go the other way.


Anyway, it's good hear that things are going well for now.  You sound level headed enough to know the risks so all I can say is keep winning.


GLC

[Jointu]

@ GLC
Thank you mate,

Also I wanted to play this on even chances: but use 3 at a time in order to diversify risk.
Similar with your newest method on the forum- "Greatest 1-1-1.."

However it's hard to tell which method is better: double dozen or three even chances.
I like it more with double dozen due to high hit rate.


Its strange how people do not have the patience when playing roulette and take unecessary risk: because small profits increase consistently your BR    and with appropriate money management you can gather consistent gains each week.

It seems to me that with this method you do not have to be lucky to win but rather unlucky to lose.
However I still have the strange impression that sooner or later a fall might come- but losing some units ( highest down was around 56)- its not much compared with the previous earnings.


Thank you again ! 

[Johnlegend]

RESULTS UPDATE FOR DIVIDE AND CONQUER FOR 09/11/2011

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 4000

TOTAL GAMES WON 3653

TOTAL GAMES LOST 347

STRIKERATE APPROX 10/1

BALANCE 2866 UNITS PLUS

DOUBLE LOSSES 17

The strikerate has dropped slightly over the last 700 games, but still maintains a similar consistency to PATTERN BREAKER. And at this pace thats excellent.

[Johnlegend]

@ GLC
Thank you mate,

Also I wanted to play this on even chances: but use 3 at a time in order to diversify risk.
Similar with your newest method on the forum- "Greatest 1-1-1.."

However it's hard to tell which method is better: double dozen or three even chances.
I like it more with double dozen due to high hit rate.


Its strange how people do not have the patience when playing roulette and take unecessary risk: because small profits increase consistently your BR    and with appropriate money management you can gather consistent gains each week.

It seems to me that with this method you do not have to be lucky to win but rather unlucky to lose.
However I still have the strange impression that sooner or later a fall might come- but losing some units ( highest down was around 56)- its not much compared with the previous earnings.


Thank you again ! 

If all humans could adhere to a good method Jointu, the gaming industry would be toast. Its just as well they cant so the smart and shrewd can forever profit. Onwards and upwards....

[Johnlegend]

Hy JL and Scooby.

Great method indeed.

One question: When do you consider a game lost?

I usually play al level one : 1/1 and 3/3

If lose, I wait to avoid the double loss- basically play virtually.

In order to recover I got to level 2 : 2/2 and 6/6 for two games and go back to level 1. I am more prudent.

After loses I play until on plus.

I have a target of 25 units per day- won in one or two sessions.

As from my records the method is very solid if played prudent and with money management ( only two step progression and levels as above).
Has a very good strike rate, so no need to increase progression- only patience and acccept loses from time to time.

Thank you.

Hi Jointu you sound like you are made of the right stuff, well done. That's the name of the game small BUT consistent profits. From little acorns grow mighty oaks. I have the powerbase to go after a win on the second game following a loss.

2--2--------6--6 =level one stakes

8--8-------24--24=level two stakes.

Playing 4 by 4 double losses in a session are RARE. Breaking it down like this gives you a definate advantage. If you are in the middle of randoms downturn you can only lose so much.
It might interest you to know of the 20-28 games I play a day for DIVIDE AND CONQUER. I rarely lose more than 2 games in a single day. And there will always be at least 2 100% WINNING SESSIONS. Interesting?

Consistency in a method is what we must seek NOT PERFECTION. That's a fallacy that I myself have romanced in the past. You must come to realize that there is no method that won't lose with a realistic betting frequency. The only question you need anwsered is does it show positive figures longterm. If it does USE IT....

[Chrisbis]

Hi John.

Nice results- for U.

John, for those who may have just started out on their D & C journey, and assuming U were playing for 1.00$ per base unit value, what would those 17 Double loses have 'COST' someone from their Bank Roll?

Approx, what would the Dollar loss be?

Just curious.

I too want to know why so many people are not playing this Method(s) of Urs, if they could be making good money at them.


Cheers.

[Johnlegend]

Hi John.

Nice results- for U.

John, for those who may have just started out on their D & C journey, and assuming U were playing for 1.00$ per base unit value, what would those 17 Double loses have 'COST' someone from their bankroll?

Approx, what would the Dollar loss be?

Just curious.

I too want to know why so many people are not playing this Method(s) of Urs, if they could be making good money at them.


Cheers.

the 17 double losses as I play them would have lost 1,360 units. But remember I play at a heavier progression than most.

LEVEL 1  2--2------6--6

LEVEL 2  8--8------24--24

And most certainly the scarceness of these double losses over my 4,000 played games is down to the precise 4 game sessions I play.

Well its simple regarding why more don't play these winning methods. They don't have what it takes. Most people want a miracle that never loses. But when they realize they might have to take this game seriously and put in some hours they don't want to know.

They figured its gambling its supposed to be casual and fun. The thought of applying yourself to the game with even more effort than your day job is alien to most poeple. And it always will be. If I say not even 1 in a 100 could do what I and a few others do I am being generous. The human mind is the hardest thing to overcome with this game CHRISBIS. Not the game itself....

[Chrisbis]

The human mind is the hardest thing to overcome with this game CHRISBIS. Not the methods.

Hallelujah there John! Praise be indeed.

I actually do look forward now, to working harder at this game, than my day job!

If fact, I would ALMOST (but it IS almost) say, the day job is getting in the way! 



So, just to be clear.................... your expected loses, if U had 17 Double loses in a row, would have taken nearly HALF your current Balance, of this Game?

Maybe now You can begin to see, why so many people are put off.

Only 10% of those Double loses, (if played at the more aggressive pace) would be enough for Folk to say:-
"Its Not for ME"...........

Bets of luck to U though John.
Great to see U back, posting again.

[Johnlegend]

Hallelujah there John! Praise be indeed.

I actually do look forward now, to working harder at this game, than my day job!

If fact, I would ALMOST (but it IS almost) say, the day job is getting in the way! 





So, just to be clear.................... your expected loses, if U had 17 Double loses in a row, would have taken nearly HALF your current Balance, of this Game?

Maybe now You can begin to see, why so many people are put off.

Only 10% of those Double loses, (if played at the more aggressive pace) would be enough for Folk to say:-
"Its Not for ME"...........

Bets of luck to U though John.
Great to see U back, posting again.

True Chrisbis, but you have to look at the bigger picture which is what most people cannot do. Its like the saying you need money to make money. What you have to do is treat each of these betting gems like a small business. I have four VERY STRONG methods now. If one is underperforming the chances are strong that the others are ticking along nicely. That's THE REASON to have more than one method Chrisbis. In case you and others ever wondered this.

Its all about the OVERALL PICTURE. The LONGTERM PROFIT MARGIN. Yes losing 17 doubles is a nasty thought. But winning 3000 plus games tends to take the sting out of things. Hope you see my point. I am back from time to time. But not like I used to be.

[Mudiru]

John your systems changed the way i see roulette !

I currently play your Pattern Breaker and Code 4 because they are coded intro MSTracker. I will start playing Divide & Conquer also because there is a lot of waiting until i place a bet, also it would help if D&C could be coded intro MSTracker. What is your 4th strong method John, Vertical 8? Is there any tracker for it?

Thanks again John for keeping us updated. I hope someday i can speak more with you on email or smth.

[Jointu]

Hi JL

Good to see you back.
I though you took a permanent break from this forum.

Lot of respect!

I think you have definatelly changed some peolple ways of playing and seeing roulette.

I support each of your statements ( pure common sense and smart thoughts) , mate.

[Proofreaders2000]

Welcome back JohnLegend.  Glad you are successful with your arsenal of systems.   

Sometime in the future I (and sure many of us) hope to see your new ideas.

I still believe there is "Gold on a Platter".  It's just the matter of finding it.

[prodec2]

hey  Scooby , i read youre Divide and Conquer , looks really good , please could you explain , when a trigger appears and when to bet and when not to , look forward to your reply , regards , Prodec2

[Johnlegend]

John your systems changed the way i see roulette !

I currently play your Pattern Breaker and Code 4 because they are coded intro MSTracker. I will start playing Divide & Conquer also because there is a lot of waiting until i place a bet, also it would help if D&C could be coded intro MSTracker. What is your 4th strong method John, Vertical 8? Is there any tracker for it?

Thanks again John for keeping us updated. I hope someday i can speak more with you on email or smth.

Thankyou Mudiru, yes Vertical 8. But its higher risk than the other three. You need to have a few thousand units in your bankroll to play it. Trackers? I have no idea my friend I am very oldschool.
charting results. Good old fashioned pen and paper. You must give thanks to Scooby Doo (DIVIDE AND CONQUER) and AMK (CODE 4) Too Muduri they are the owners of those two gems. I just play and push them because they are very good methods.

[Johnlegend]

Hi JL

Good to see you back.
I though you took a permanent break from this forum.

Lot of respect!

I think you have definatelly changed some peolple ways of playing and seeing roulette.

I support each of your statements ( pure common sense and smart thoughts) , mate.

Hi Jointu, I have caused a ripple in the pond. The hardest thing to overcome is the weakest link. THE HUMAN MIND. Most people cannot break free from what is fed to them in everyday life. They just accept what they are told. If someone says this game can't be beaten longterm. They don't question it. Because the masses continue to lose (sheep mentality)

Think about history in general the people who really made waves were those who didn't accept what they were told about everything. that's how I approach roulette. You take a good method add tight money management and short bursts of play to it. You have a profit generator. Its that simple.
Now getting your mind right to accept this reality is another thing alltogether. Human nature is one of greed and impatience. So how do you reprogram the average Joe to accept small consistent profits over the longterm. When all he wants to do is get rich overnight. You can't!!! The tiny minority of people who will be successful with this game are those who ALREADY. Have the mindset to do so. I think you are of this ilk Jointu from what I have read in your posts.

So keep it going, until you have a powerful powerbase (BANKROLL) And are beyond negative figures permanently. From little acorns grow mighty oaks. If you set longterm targets. And even get halfway there you will be a longterm winner. Less than 1 in a 100 are capable of this. And they may not even have an interest in the game. that's why so few will ever beat this game.