DIVIDE & CONQUER

[broadsword_uk]

you expect me to sleep after reading that! ;-)

ian

[XXVV]

Sorry but it is of course a NeverEndingStory.

[XXVV]

Divide + Conquer

These are the summary results from +500 games so far analysed.
These are a good statistically sound mix of sources. Some live . Some historic data live. These are collected as the first three games always as a unique session. Then move on to another source for a new session. Purpose of this is to try to avoid  the traps of 'continuous play' but of course any list of results eventually starts to conform to the characteristics of a continuous session to some degree ( matrix).

It is that 'some degree' though that may make a difference. There is anecdotal evidence that short session capture performance exceeds continuous play results even when stop/start checks are in place.

We have been advised that it is in understanding the true nature of roulette that we observe short cycles with small edge in our favour. This comes about through Ecart deviations that in the short term are relatively considerable and which we can climb on board as winning streaks. In due course the Balance forces restore equilibrium and deviations diminish relatively.

So lets see if this data scheduled supports our thesis.

Data is illustrated in three ways :

1. Dozens only +250 games

2. Columns only +250 games

3. Combined data D+C +500 games


1. Dozens.
    Sessions of three games only

Streaks : lengths of winning games

18
28
82
52
12
8
19

(+24 unfinished)

average length of streak on completed sessions :

+31 games

expectation is 26

note : zero appearance is factored in here

Play is based on 1-3-9 staking ( risk 26)

2. Columns

94
5
56
41
4
2
14
2
(+23 unfinished)

Average length of streak win  :

+28 games

expectation 26

Please note the range of extremes in duration of streaks

3. Combination D+C

36
55
97
11
56
56
49
24
7
8
1
5
29
2
2

(+47 unfinished)

Average length of winning streak :

+33 games

expectation 26

again please note the corrective swings that can occur!

In short summary these results really support the application of this method in general, and in particular in taking short sessions. Excellent result. Also the overall testing in taking overall results on all three approaches has shown consistently positive results since commencement using the simple 1-3-9 progression.

With such deviation in support of the overall averages of streak winning duration this comes as no surprise but nevertheless please recognise there are still abrupt corrections that can occur ( although anticipated).

Here are a couple of further ideas I am exploring with this data.

Of course I am aware of the best methods of staking which are parlay and positive progression and a few others as per the workshop review, but in this case the simple three step progression may be enough.

On the 500 games no situation went to the requirement for a sixth attempt ( although we know they are out there- on other data I had one game win on the 7th attempt), and the failures eventually sorted themselves into more win on fourth attempt and a little less for win on the fifth attempt ( earlier data was skewed).

In other words no losses if 1-3-9-27-81. ( risk 242)

If this is too risky for us, then a way to compromise is to skip the first stake.

In other words play 1-3-9-27 ( risk 80) after a first loss.

On 250 games Dozens, 88 games produced +84 points as the net result

On 250 games Columns, 95 games produced +90 points as the net result

Obviously this excludes the two thirds of games that are won on the first attempt.

In a relatively crude sort of approach you could call the first bets secondary on a small unit value and stop and start as you encounter streaks,  and then at a higher value play the primary bets as shown above, say on a 5:1 ratio, or vice versa.

Another way of bet within a bet I am exploring is one way already earlier illustrated which goes up and down with wins or losses on say 6 games max. but is volatile, although more profitable than the straight betting. This method looks at a game from the outside.

But a further and more sophisticated way, based on larger big picture observation, is using the same principle but keeping into short triads - three games max. This one looks at a game also from the inside as well as outside. Future examples will clarify what I mean.

This goes up on a win +1 point, and on a loss immediately back to  base 1. However the method , using the principle observed that usually a clean win follows a rough couple of losses, the net loss result is attacked within the subsequent game(s) to try to neutralise loss as soon as it happens - good for corrective choppy phases. Examples later.

Currently assessing the 500 games on this approach.

A max win per triad would be +1 +2 +3 = +6 points if all 3 games win as single events( rare)

This method can plough through the worst losses and avoids the stress of progressions.

More soon. XXVV

[XXVV]

For your information...
the triad triple wins occur in this +500 game sample

Dozens  26 times in 90 attempts ( ratio 1:3.5)

Columns 17 times in 90 attempts (ratio 1:5.0)

Not so rare.

[XXVV]

Reviewing the nearly 600 games in this tranche of samples I have prepared a set of data which may help you develop several winning techniques using bets within bets within bets.

These formats will be published next week together with a clear set of instructions for the Divide + Conquer method and the very important guides as how to handle zero.

The remaining further 400 game data will also be published.

Then it will be time to move on.
Best XXVV

[XXVV]

Audited the data on columns and number of triad hits, ie 1-2-3 = +6
Total increased from 17 to 20
ie ratio is about 1 in 4 of the triads are straight wins.

[broadsword_uk]

XXVV this is very interesting and thank you for all your hard work.  i am sure it is much appreciated by many others as well as myself.

One the other guys, Ophis ??, is working on a new super-tracker to include D+C plus the other pattern/matrix approaches.  I wonder if he can build in the final outcome once you have completed best approach?

Looking forward to seeing final set of rules and giving this a go.

Ian

[strato1985]

xxvv you are becoming a great member

I can't compete with what you say, far above my intellect but it's really interesting reading your posts..

[Johnlegend]

Xxvv you are becoming a great member

I can't compete with what you say, far above my intellect but it's really interesting reading your posts..

He is basically saying this is a winner STRAT. And he is right with this and P4 PB and PHASE 3 and MV5 Europe doesnt stand a chance. Alot of credit and a chunk of chanfe are due to Soooby.

[strato1985]

Thats too true

Scooby has really been under appreciated on this topic.. there are so many great methods on here now my heads doing 360's . i work a lot at the minute, hopefully one day i can live like fender!

very grateful scooby ..

[XXVV]

Yes, despite all the words, my focus is deep inside the true nature of the game at this time.

I think there are dozens of potential second level methods that can be derived from D+C, and that is taking nothing away from the first level method whether played in short bursts or at varying lengths. I am interested in secondary and primary bets.

I would be cautious about results derived from continuous play, or play results that come from sequences that are not managed. Critical is the selection and application of triggers to enter and exit.

Where I am at is the swing of Ecart deviation and engineering a primary high value bet that can flat stake ( or at least bet with small risk exposure) in such circumstances either for win or for loss depending on the direction of the streak.

I will be publishing some material on this and then it will be up to individual readers to construct their own bet. There are many opportunities for this and I believe most satisfaction will come through individual efforts.

Then I can move on to some other matrix work ( including my own) and even to the much maligned so called pppc bet, and the even more maligned method from Iceman who as I read the explanation at the time was looking at something similar to my current work. I may be wrong about that but this is a wonderful field of research and I am glad some others also enjoy this. Thanks to Scooby Doo for encouraging this work on D+C, and then I can shift back to the workshop thread later next week.

Cheers XXVV

[XXVV]

With the instructions published next week there will be some notes on areas  of research completed and some areas that could still be explored by you.

There will be a couple of specific methods described which you can immediately apply to satisfy those who want immediate action and who are sceptical , or worse, cynical.

There will be some additional result data to complete the 1000 games as promised.

Lets not take anything away from the method as set out originally. With care, very good outcomes can follow and the hit and run approach applied to many matrix situations is one of the best ways to accumulate profit.

Take the advice of JohnL and take a longer term view toward accumulating profit.

I have studied the matrix in micro scale ( ie bet by bet) and in macro scale ( ie winning bet groups or loss group). There are ways to approach other bet layers by looking at both of these as sequences, short cycles, and patterns.

I have looked at groups of three, four games as a cluster, and at six games as a cluster. This can assist possible macro positive progressions or parlays. Six games may equate to approximately 20 spins or more.

I have looked at winning and at losing individually and in sequences. I have looked at reversing the psychology by winning by losing. Given the payout is better if you reverse your viewpoint this is one major key forward.

So opens the way for a very conservative step progression on a parlay to lose! Sound like triple Dutch?  Sorry to my Dutch friends - just a figure of speech.

This will be one of the methods I outline, and I think its a very good one. Simple actually.

Just so, despite all the attention to detail within a game, our play within a session, or multiple sessions within a day, or sessions during a week, are all different  views we need to be aware of. In other words a tough session where you encountered real hostility can be counter balanced with a session later in one or several steps. You dont have to win all the time, or be discouraged by setbacks. You can see I am encouraging flexible thinking.

I think it is in the real and true nature of the game that there are steps forward and back, and we need to be adaptable in our thinking, and not beat ourselves up if there are mistakes or adversities encountered.

This all may sound simple but is part of the myriad of professional play statements about which we need to constantly remind ourselves, to re-program earlier mentalities.

Last is the entreaty, not intended ironically, to keep it simple.

Whatever methods you finally develop and select with the D + C matrix. Keep your play well practiced first, proven, fluent, and then you will play with confidence and assurance and really enjoy this clever method, this matrix way of thinking as a tool, a guide to start to explore more fully this wonderful game.

[clothdog]

hello Scooby or X
I was at the casino last night  and while I was playing PB4 I was tracking D&C.  It won 8 times in a row and then a zero appeared and it screwed up my tracking with 2 losses in a row.  how do you handle the zero's? Do you not mark it and just wait for the next spin and keep the same bet? eg:
123
10. . . . . now here,we get a  zero or double zero whatever, even though it's a loss do we not mark the zero and still bet 1&3? or do we go on the next bet and play the 1&2? Also, if the zero is marked how does that affect the lines for the next set of betting for that column?  I wanted to play it last night but was unsure how to proceed.  Thanks for a great method!
cd

[Johnlegend]

Hello Scooby or X
I was at the casino last night  and while I was playing PB4 I was tracking D&C.  It won 8 times in a row and then a zero appeared and it screwed up my tracking with 2 losses in a row.  how do you handle the zero's? Do you not mark it and just wait for the next spin and keep the same bet? e.g.:
123
10. . . . . now here,we get a  zero or double zero whatever, even though it's a loss do we not mark the zero and still bet 1&3? or do we go on the next bet and play the 1&2? Also, if the zero is marked how does that affect the lines for the next set of betting for that column?  I wanted to play it last night but was unsure how to proceed.  Thanks for a great method!
cd

I have played nearly 1200 games of DIVIDE AND CONQUER  clothdog. I treat a game with a zero/s as collateral damage. In other words its just another losing game. Overall the method with still produce plenty of winning games and attractive winning streaks I will give a full update of results tomorrow. Now you say you won 8 games in a row. I would have been gone alot earlier. Again HIT AND RUN. Makes this method a certain goldmine. Its has random destroyed. Scooby cannot be congratulated enough for forging this masterpiece.

[XXVV]

Thanks for your question Clothdog.

I suggest you make zero your friend. There are several ways to do this. Many writers and players I have known view zero as a tax, an aspect of life that is just there, and we should just get on and deal with it, and allow for the occasional (and always annoying loss). I personally disagree with this view and can suggest some steps you can take.

I should say, if you read the earlier part of this thread carefully, that ScoobyDoo actually gave a very good explanation of how D +C deals with zero, in answer to an earlier query from me. Please read that answer first.

D+C has thus an ingenious way of dealing with zero and  it need not lead to a loss at all, or if it does, indirectly, then that's just part of the fabric of the game.

All my earlier results allow for this and despite the so called house edge through zero, we still show good results.

I will post a review explanation later today to give step by step instructions for how I play D +C. There are other interpretations but my way works for me.

A second note is that if you play in certain casinos live that use a European set of rules for roulette then you can utilise the 'en prison' rule to your advantage, to mitigate the effect of zero.

However zero is just another number as far as the game goes and pays the same healthy dividend as any other when struck.

Thus when I am placing larger bets on the win mode of D + C, ie covering two targets, then I would run a separate account ( a column) covering zero exclusively. Always sufficient to give a bonus win. Obviously this would have the effect of eroding the net profit on dozens or columns but that is not a problem as long as you think it through at various levels.

When I am playing 'to lose', ie staking on only one dozen or column then I would ALWAYS bet zero as well, to ensure the occasional bonus win. I will explain' playing to lose' in a next post.

As I have said many times, whenever I go near a roulette wheel zero is never far away. So I thought I would take advantage of this odd magnetism!

Hope this helps. XXVV